Rocky Horror Picture Show - players suck, game over

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VOTE: TheGoldenParadox
i don't want to be recruited please and thank you

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sheep me please
i feel like d! is useless here and once players start getting cult-recruited we can have some fun
since no one can die, do you think the cult leaders should claim?

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I don't think you'll be recruited anyway.

lollz everyone knows just how true that statement is

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Ending the day quickly is the most retarded thing we can do in a situation with limited information.

In all likelyhood the only way to kill the cult masters is for some vig-type ability to shoot them in the motherfucking face.

Ending quickly gives us no information to find the cult masters. It allows the cult masters to recruit (saying it helps to prevent it is lol-bad, all it takes is one pm to the mod), and puts us at instant disadvantage.

HURT: Vecna

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We're not "town". We're part of a neutral survivor faction.
Which is the same thing I guess but..

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VOTE: Jay

If I can choose anyone to lean on and be guaranteed town, I'd choose Jay.

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Thing is none of us *know* we're immune, besides Creature and Dunker thanks to flavor

PMed dreal, impressionable transexuals are cultrecruitable.

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@Jay: Theme Park is so much different than any other section on the site. There are special mechanics, unique roles.. etc. This is not an open where you know exactly what to do even if you mislynch a PR, nor is it a semi-open where you could still lynch for info. That and the MOD SPENT TIME creating this game. They put in effort to make the game enjoyable to both them and the players. Do you really want to treat it like a paper tissue that you blow your nose into then toss in the litter bin?

VOTE: Ceberus

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We have no fricking info, if you're going to tell us something that will actually let us do something, please tell us. I don't understand these game mechanics and so with NO KNOWLEDGE feel like we should get the biggest wagon.
Also if there's a doublevoter you should claim to make players immune.

@mod, who reviewed this setup?

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suboptimal sexty

what does this mean.

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i'm pretty convinced that the cl's have probably picked their recruits by now, most likely before we even began this wagon shenanigans 10 pages ago or so, so I think we should just run up someone we think is a) a good person to immunize but also b) hopefully also not an obvious cl or recruitment target.

hard pass category:

cerberus
varsoon
inferno
gamma
boonskies
porkens
creature
dunker

maybe category

chickadee
vecna

sexy category:

me
almost50
jaydragon
snarkysnowman

I think

Almost50

is our best immunisation target

discuss

VOTE: Almost50
We have no data and nothing to go off of.
Can we realize that there's no chance I'll be recruited so y'all can treat me as conftown.

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where am I in the list

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legit I don't think the neutrals can get in trouble for playing against wincon
there's no wincon in role pms
so you can play to get recruited or whatever

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Ok obviously we need to start taking this seriously. I agree that we should read this game as a regular scum/town game, because that's what it is as far as we know. I am going to ask that gamma explain his reasoning for fake out replace out and a complete reads list from everyone NOW.

no

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VOTE: Jaydragonking

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"Some moderators will allow any recruited town power roles to retain their original powers despite their alignment change. When this is allowed, the leader is often called an Improved Cult Leader"

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Idiotic.
This game is frickin' idiotic.
We know almost nothing, goddamn it.
How the

h-e-double-hockey-sticks

are we supposed to do any-frickin'-thing?
There's no kills, no fun things, nothing. This game is boring as heck.
Let's do something about it. I don't care if it's playing against wincon, because in this state of the game
a) first of all we didn't have wincon in our role PMs
b) with the amount of info we have, we really don't know if it's for or against wincon.
I suggest we massclaim. Who's with me?

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Drealz games =

1- Pay attention
2- Don't assume
3- Work together
4- When in doubt, ask the mod via PM

I refuse. I just goddamn want to have some fun.

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ANYONE WHO IS NOT A VIRGIN OR A TRANSLYVANIAN IS IMMUNE TO RECRUITMENT

which actually goes against what was said in signups that most people wouldn't know if they were recruitable unless recruited
so i don't understand this
is the mod lying or what

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Of note is that dreal's "announcements" aren't in his mod color. Can we really trust them as mod info? Seems like some kind of communicator role could exist, especially given the "loud voice" flavor.

No. Holy frick no. The signup threads said there would be no mod lies. Anything that is posted by the mod is something the mod is saying. If that's a lie, then I will hunt dreal to the ends of the earth, never play in his games, WOTM and WOTC him out of every game I play in, and campaign for a dreal softban for lying during game signups, unless he retracts right-frickin-now.

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Game name

- Rocky Horror Picture Show: A Cult Game
no mod lies, all roles possible

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It's not really a mod lie at all. He said that "a voice was heard", and then he relayed a message. There's nothing to imply that the message came from him. The opposite is true, in fact – there's a lot to imply that it

didn't

come from him.

Reading back, it was placed in a quote.
Ok fine dreal, retracting that.

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also NSG, I love ur new avatar.

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This game was not advertised as a mature player's game and there is quite a bit of NSFW content here, which I will never join a game with.
I will replace out if this continues. This is not meant as a threat. However, there are definitely quite a few minors on this site. I refuse to play a game with this much sexual content in it.

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Okay, since there is a replacement on the replacements list and it won't be too much of a hassle to the mod (i hope)

@mod, replace me, please.

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I’ve literally performed in a theatre production of this. It is NOT an underage date appropriate thing. (Although a lot of teens do go to see it and are obsessed with it.) :shrug:

I saw it when I was like 13

Well, so did I, but I grew up in the 90's with really slack rules and a mom that liked to party. Sooooooo......

I'd still say by and large that the theme itself is NSFW.



Someone asked who I tried to kill. I think I'll keep that to myself.
As for timewarp, I was thinking of maybe shooting there too. MI had another thought too, which I'll keep to myself for the moment in case they're not recruited yet.

Are you unlimited?

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Okay.
We are officially in buisiness. We need to CL hunt. My proposal- put everyone under the Geriatric Ruleset right now so that we can actually scumhunt without having to read pages of meaningless spam.

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No. I've already claimed it's a limited number of shots.

Sorry, didn't see that.
Can everyone vote Yay or Nay for a self-imposed Geriatric Ruleset?
VOTE: Yay

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Oh crap, that might get me in trouble for using vote tags.
Howabout this,

Unofficial Vote: Yay

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I don’t like the idea of limiting ourselves like that, but I do like the idea of getting down to business.

I can protect someone from being recruited but they won’t be able to do anything if they have an ability. Just FYI.
I’m
Just going to claim the other part of my role since I don’t have to worry about being killed by scum. I’m a pack of wild dogs. I’m addition to big shots, I can also chase someone, which means they cannot use actions and actions cannot be taken against them. That also means that they cannot be immunized while they are being chased. So it’s wise not to vote that person for immunizations. It’s also limited #. I have yet to use any of those but do plan to use one in the next phase and will announce.

You seem familiar with the show, do you have an idea how a pack of wild dogs fits with this theme? Except perhaps metaphorically?

There is a scene in the movie where Rocky breaks his chains and escapes, whereupon Magenta releases the dogs who chase him back to the castle.

Two questions: what is a geriatric ruleset? And how would a game within the game work?

A geriatric ruleset is one where you can make a max of 10 posts a day and have a "reserve" of 20 posts that you can dip into if you exceed your daily limit.

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Hey, guys, wanna run a game of mafia inside this game? Like, I'll keep votecounts and moderate/handle flips. Kill will be on a random non-scum member. Just use bold lynch tags for voting instead of normal vote tags.
Then we can have our cake and eat it, too.

No, we're not doing that- it'd get so complicated that a lot of players would hate you. If you want to run a game so badly, /in to mod in a queue. Don't utilize someone else's game to do it. That's rude and offensive to take the setup they've put so much time into and power struggle its way into its own game.

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[quote="In post 1290, Inferno390"][/quote]
No, I'm trying to limit off-topic or spammy posts.
Gamma, I disagree with #freesheep. He was banned for being underage. At the very start, he was told he couldn't be underage.

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... Um. Wrong thread, Golden?

No, I just saw his sig. This isn't a conversation.

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VOTE: drealmerz7

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No, I'm trying to limit off-topic or spammy posts.
Gamma, I disagree with #freesheep. He was banned for being underage. At the very start, he was told he couldn't be underage.

The fuck?

Your sig.

You may even find love

im like
under 13
this sounds fun

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VOTE: SnarkySnowman

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OK, so Porkens, just to be sure your sentence 'no PMs or anything' means that you didn't get a message saying you were immunized?

If that's so, we might as well finish the train on Porkens to make the immunization final.

VOTE: Porkens

Almost has already confirmed you don't even get a PM when immunised by vote. So what's the point of voting Porken's to immunisation?



To be honest, I don't think many people understand the optimal way of voting. We should be voting for the people who are likely to be recruited. The very fact that the flavour MAY be a sign that Porkens is immune to recruitment means that the cults probably won't target him. Do you really think the cults are going to risk missing out on an extra recruitment for a player like Porkens? I've never played a game with him in the past but my impression is no.

I don't think we should be voting inferno today either. Like no offence to him but some things he has done HAS been kinda scummy. This means he shouldn't be voted for 2 reasons. First of all, he is a possible vig target. What's the point of immunising someone if they are just going to get killed? Secondly, cults aren't going to recruit people who have received heat are they?

I'm not trying to dictate who we should be voting for, but I just feel that very little thought is actually going into who we immunise and that feels scum driven. Y'all can vote for these 2 if you want but I won't be. We shouldn't be voting randomly and I'd prefer it if we chose a new target for the immunisation.

My point was, as explained yesterday, to close a train fast - if the first half of the players who appear after play resumes manage to immunize someone and we are lucky enough that the CLs or at least one CL belongs to the second half of players who appear later - then they miss out on the chance to convert someone. Especially with a more than half finished train at Play-start, that could have worked. But by now too much time passed for that.

Also I disagree on not voting randomly. Without any actual knowledge who is cult and who not, voting randomly isn't that bad. The point is, if we immunize someone who has a high chance to be recruited, that one also has a high chance of being already recruited. Remember, if the recruitment post comes before the immunization train closes, it is still valid. That means if we successfully 'immunize' someone who has been targeted by a CL - the immunization does nothing. All we achieve with that is losing one immunization shot. So, wouldn't it be better to use the first few cycles to immunize as many 'second tier' players as we can to secure a town/neutral base? And treat those who have a high probability of being recruited as 'probably cult by now'?

Another thing that for me personally makes the voting quite random is, that I hardly know anyone and without any flips it is very difficult to crosscheck your play and arguments against some solid facts. So it's slow learning in this game. So, in conclusion, I'm basically OK with voting anyone that hasn't set off any scum-flags so far. And since you might be right and voting Porkens isn't getting us anywhere:

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

I disagree. If the cults can talk during PAUSE, I'm guessing they dictate PLAY-start. That seems obvious.
Right now the maximum cult size is 2, with 1 cult size of 1, if we treat the voice as mod-confirmed info or atleast info coming from "town".
That means we should vote 3 people to L-4 and then play Russian Roulette, switching whenever we feel like it.

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amazing

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thread

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get to
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pagetop
TAKE THAT VARSOON

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drealmer modkills jay

THIS IS A JOKE

VOTE: drealmerz7
let's see if this works

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I'm thinking....
could the mod be a cult leader?

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UNVOTE: drealmerz7

don't quote PMs with the mod

no damage done but it is TERRIBLE practice

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UNVOTE: drealmerz7

don't quote PMs with the mod

no damage done but it is TERRIBLE practice

Sorry, dreal. in your rules it stated don't quote Role PMs, so I assumed that could mean I could quote other mod info. I'm sorry.

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badmod

You're not a badmod if something stems from accidental loophole abuse of your rules. I thought since this game was a theme there were specific allowances in play allowing us to quote mod questions or such. It's 100% my fault; I should have asked via PM before doing something that most mods would force replace/modkill me for.

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Soooo.. do we have anything specific planned for today? Like, did the TPRs submit their actions already, so that we can maybe try to outsmart the cults and immunize somebody? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

I can't tell you anything, I'm an ITT.

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This is the list of players that I am willing to vote for:

Srceenplay
Nancy Drew 39
northsidegal
Ms Columbo
Venmar
NicoRobin
Boonskiies


This is a list of players who: haven't claimed a PR, haven't been mentioned by those mysterious flavour messages, hasn't already been voted & hasn't done anything to make cults not want to recruit them (taken heat over anything). Lifthrasil would have been on this list had he not tried to start a wagon on himself. I may consider him again in the future.

wait wat about me

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VOTE: Venmar
at this point I don't think this game is fun anymore b/c we can;t even lynch people

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VOTE: Venmar
at this point I don't think this game is fun anymore b/c we can;t even lynch people

...as opposed to that earlier point in the game when we could lynch people?
It was never a game where you could lynch anyone. You gave up that agency by signing up for the game.

Although I kept anticipating some game mechanic to jump in and make the game suddenly fun
stupid expectation? Probably. But you gotta have some hope...

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Happy Birthday!

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VOTE: V

Do you mean Venmar, or Vecna, or what?

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- THE SAME VOICE IS HEARD AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE CASTLE -

It's time once again to recount the events of the last PAUSE, as we near the end of today's PLAY.

On last update, we had 14 virgins remaining. That number has decreased further! For one of you has become a groupie!

And oh, what's this? Creature with yet another conquest? What a slut! Creature has come out of the greenhouse, towing both Porkens and Varsoon! A lot of firsts are happening

Virgin Count: 11

/gets out red lipstick (from my PURSE, okay!?!?) and marks a big red

V

onto Srceenplay's, Varsoon's, and Boonskiies' foreheads

vote "V" to get yours!

THIS GIVES US A TON OF INFORMATION!
Before, the voice said that virgins have red V's on their foreheads.
Then the voice said that Porkens and Varsoon stopped being virgins.
Now, the mod himself says that Varsoon now has a V on his forehead. If I'm right, that means that THE VOICE is a LIE!!!!

Is there a flaw in my reasoning here?

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/gets out red lipstick (from my PURSE, okay!?!?) and marks a big red

V

onto Srceenplay's, Varsoon's, and Boonskiies' foreheads

vote "V" to get yours!

^ that has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than me illustrating voting for V had no impact on the game - just to be extra clear

there's no hidden mechanic of voting for V that will do anything and me putting V's on anyone's head is absolutely meaningless

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yeesh

dang it
VOTE: V

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VOTE: Boonskies

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@mod V/LA until Tuesday

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oh crap forgot to read the rules AGAIN

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VOTE: Venmar

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On short, we are at the stage of the game where I think every "townie" should out the info they have, and I stress on INFO (i.e. not speculation, and not what they "think" might be the case)

KK I have none, I'm an ITT if I haven't said so already.

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VOTE: Nancy Drew
I have no influence in this game whatsoever, time to end it.

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is it? It just resolves dthings faster, it doesn't help town since actions can't be sumbitted.

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I.. kinda... hate this game. At least one of my favorite players ever has replaced in, and will probably replace back out lol.
Mathblade can you do your setup spec magic and get us out of this mess?

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I.. kinda... hate this game. At least one of my favorite players ever has replaced in, and will probably replace back out lol.
Mathblade can you do your setup spec magic and get us out of this mess?

Considering I have very limited cult game experience no.

And I am still reading the thread so setup spec with like no info in a cult game is like riiiiiiip.

You’re prob cult.

I wish at this point.

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Happy birthday mathblade!

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VOTE: mathblade

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VOTE: draw

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I hate this stupid fricking game and I'm ready to draw.

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VOTE: Vax
done with dagame

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excuse me can I please be culted now

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Prod dodge