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egoYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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My Playfair cypher was TOTALLY legal that game~ <3Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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From the rule set, Hindu. They're confirmed town and know each other's identities. That's definition of Mason.There are three Daughters in this game. They are aligned with Town, and know each other's identities.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ah, I just realized they're hiders, not commuters.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I was writing a big post about "why don't the daughters all just claim?" but the more I thought about it the more awful it sounded because I realized they were hiders, and not commuters like I thoguht when I read the rules post first.In post 119, Hinduragi wrote:
Fair enough. I just assumed without a PT they would simply be hiders.In post 118, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
From the rule set, Hindu. They're confirmed town and know each other's identities. That's definition of Mason.There are three Daughters in this game. They are aligned with Town, and know each other's identities.
Do you have any thoughts on things so far, LLD?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Informed Minority Advantage is a problem.In post 122, Hinduragi wrote:
LolripIn post 121, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
I was writing a big post about "why don't the daughters all just claim?" but the more I thought about it the more awful it sounded because I realized they were hiders, and not commuters like I thoguht when I read the rules post first.In post 119, Hinduragi wrote:
Fair enough. I just assumed without a PT they would simply be hiders.In post 118, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
From the rule set, Hindu. They're confirmed town and know each other's identities. That's definition of Mason.There are three Daughters in this game. They are aligned with Town, and know each other's identities.
Do you have any thoughts on things so far, LLD?
What's your take on the python thing and player-wise?
If everyone targets someone different, the three scum can point and say "if these 3 are hiders, they would all die".
Then, they get to do hider hunting, because they get to say "this person is the most likely to be the Daughter... and they're likely targetting here. Let's kill that person and down them both."
Because don't forget, the daughters are compulsive hiders. Which means there are two ways for scum to win
1) kill all the daughters
or
2) kill all the NON daughters. Because if that ever happens, the daughters MUST hide behind the scum, and we lose that scenario. Even if there are more daughters than scum remaining.
So if we confirm targets from players, it will eliminate PRIVATELY for the scum who is NOT the hiders.
Eventually, this will confirm for the scum who the daughters are, but not the town.
Each night we progress with this, the worse it will become.
I feel this plan needs some review.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I also am getting bad tingles from Kagami.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I just assumed it would be symmetric, tbh.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Why did you ignore the vote to ask this question? You had to actively choose to crop the vote out of that post, why?In post 132, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
What gives you that idea.In post 131, Nosferatu wrote:scum wouldn't have 3 people anywayYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Oh, ok.In post 134, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I don't care about the vote
Vote: Kaede
Do you care about this vote?
The third vote? a fourth vote?
I just wanna know how many votes it is gonna take, tbh.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'm actually kind of ignoring you, tbh?In post 143, Cabd wrote:By the way, LLD, did you not notice i was voting you before the post you made about 3 scum, or did you "just not care about one vote"?
If I have to interact with you being all "LLD SCUM SLIPPED LUL" even thought you should know better I'm probably jsut going to lynch myself to be away from you.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'm certain it's for an equally moronic reason, but since you're so eager and I can't stop interacting with you, why don't you tell me.In post 147, Cabd wrote:
You're not at all curious as to why I voted you BEFORE the supposed scumslip?In post 145, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
I'm actually kind of ignoring you, tbh?In post 143, Cabd wrote:By the way, LLD, did you not notice i was voting you before the post you made about 3 scum, or did you "just not care about one vote"?
If I have to interact with you being all "LLD SCUM SLIPPED LUL" even thought you should know better I'm probably jsut going to lynch myself to be away from you.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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"ASK ME WHY I VOTED YOU"In post 149, Cabd wrote:That's it indeed, you got it in one, it's because I have straw for brains and the raven told me to do it.
"it's probably stupid, but sure, tell me since you're baiting me, you cunt"
"LUL NAH JUST GONNA BE EVEN MORE OF A CUNT"
yeah, see, this is why you're actually useless.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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This person is scum, ftr. This comment helps nothing and only inflames further. Was wondering if they'd take the bait.In post 153, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Cabd wouldnt be someone i'd associate the word "useless" with.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I honestly can't be arsed. Like, it's one of two things Cabd.In post 152, Cabd wrote:There's always a method to my madness, I'm wanting to know if you see why I voted you when you'd only posted your egopost and the joke about cyphers.
If you think I'm scum regarding the scum slip you're pointing at, this conversation is just posturing for you.
If you don't think I'm scum based on that, you're being disingenuous and poking at me until I get angry.
In either case you're fucking useless, tbh.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Like, if your goal is to make me angry and interact with me, congrats, you've made me angry, except you've also killed all my motivation to give a fuck about this game.
It's already a fucking hard game because I have to deal with Kagami (who is probably scum) posting fucking literal code in the god damned thread and being like "HEY WE'RE DOING THIS".
But you're just taking a fucking hatchet to it ain't chaYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Mmhmm.In post 157, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Oh the good old "i threw a bait" right?
Nope.In post 154, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:This person is scum, ftr
Nope.In post 154, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:This comment helps nothing and only inflames further
That comment discredits your discredit of Cabd's scumhunting.
That isnt a bait LULIn post 154, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Was wondering if they'd take the bait.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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So, you agree to a one v. one then Kaede?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Only you or I get lynched today? Let's make a fae pact, shall we?
Because my fucking "giving a fuck meter" is about to hit 0 and when that happens WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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...In post 167, Cabd wrote:It's more about what you didn't weigh in on than what you did.
I remember you being more game-breaky than this in the past and it's my primary concern. The three scum thing didn't help but wasn't my initial concern.
I don't get how me suspecting you makes this game a slog, though? I'm just one person and as you said, a useless one at that!
Did you decide to ignore the post where I had a giant fucking game breaky thing fucking written and then had to erase it all because I fucking misunderstood the FUCKING RULES?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Cabd, any last comments to save me before my "giving a fuck meter" hits zero?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Cabd you should fucking know better.
You know that you are the following things:
A friend and someone I have emotional investment in
A player I consider to be competent as a general rule
A player I consider to have a large amount of charisma, making you a popular figure
And here you are, fucking trolling me, making me hate this game when I already dropped most of my energy into a post I had to fucking kill.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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"WHY DIDN'T YOU GAME SOLVE?"
"RTFG, CABD"Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You mean while I slept and watched AGDQ?In post 174, Cabd wrote:
...Yes, actually; I apparently didn't actually read 121 and 122 until I went back to check your ISO to see what you were talking about. Now Kaede's post with the big picture makes WAY more sense. I ~am~ straw-for-brains.In post 168, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
...In post 167, Cabd wrote:It's more about what you didn't weigh in on than what you did.
I remember you being more game-breaky than this in the past and it's my primary concern. The three scum thing didn't help but wasn't my initial concern.
I don't get how me suspecting you makes this game a slog, though? I'm just one person and as you said, a useless one at that!
Did you decide to ignore the post where I had a giant fucking game breaky thing fucking written and then had to erase it all because I fucking misunderstood the FUCKING RULES?
That said, the initial vote was more due to you not having chimed in on things while stuff was going down; thinking you'd be organically "part of the discussion" and not making one big wallerific.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Being currently useless does not preclude someone from being generally competent.In post 175, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
Werent you saying earlier that he was useless?In post 172, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:A player I consider to be competent as a general rule
How does anyone think this slot is town?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'm just basically teetering on the edge of not giving a fuck and once that happens it's basically not gonna change for the rest of the game.In post 182, Cabd wrote:
:~( really not trying to, ftr.In post 172, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:fucking trolling me
It is far too early for me to hate this game. And myself.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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ideas are independent, posts aren't.In post 187, Cabd wrote:
Yeah let's not. Instead let's talk about what bugs you about kagami.In post 184, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
I'm just basically teetering on the edge of not giving a fuck and once that happens it's basically not gonna change for the rest of the game.In post 182, Cabd wrote:
:~( really not trying to, ftr.In post 172, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:fucking trolling me
It is far too early for me to hate this game. And myself.
And kagami's plan. Two independant topics, or one and the same?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Cabd, what about my concerns with the planYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ok, so let's go step by step.In post 220, Cabd wrote:In post 123, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Informed Minority Advantage is a problem.In post 122, Hinduragi wrote:
LolripIn post 121, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
I was writing a big post about "why don't the daughters all just claim?" but the more I thought about it the more awful it sounded because I realized they were hiders, and not commuters like I thoguht when I read the rules post first.In post 119, Hinduragi wrote:
Fair enough. I just assumed without a PT they would simply be hiders.In post 118, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
From the rule set, Hindu. They're confirmed town and know each other's identities. That's definition of Mason.There are three Daughters in this game. They are aligned with Town, and know each other's identities.
Do you have any thoughts on things so far, LLD?
What's your take on the python thing and player-wise?
If everyone targets someone different, the three scum can point and say "if these 3 are hiders, they would all die".
Then, they get to do hider hunting, because they get to say "this person is the most likely to be the Daughter... and they're likely targetting here. Let's kill that person and down them both."
Because don't forget, the daughters are compulsive hiders. Which means there are two ways for scum to win
1) kill all the daughters
or
2) kill all the NON daughters. Because if that ever happens, the daughters MUST hide behind the scum, and we lose that scenario. Even if there are more daughters than scum remaining.
So if we confirm targets from players, it will eliminate PRIVATELY for the scum who is NOT the hiders.
Eventually, this will confirm for the scum who the daughters are, but not the town.
Each night we progress with this, the worse it will become.
I feel this plan needs some review.
Right so actually this is another reason to think 3-scum over 4-scum. Can you slightly unpack what you meant about the first three lines like I'm five, because I'm not quite undermeaning what you stand?
1) The scum know who they are.
2) Even with randomizers, whether or not players specifically state which person they are targeting, you create pools of information.
3) The scum can use these pools of information to narrow and even completely eliminate potential hiders based upon two things
3a) Did someone target them? If they didn't die, they're not a hider
3b) Did someone target their nightkill? If they didn;t die, they're not a hider.
4) eventually, you cna more or less play Cleudo wiht this information and back trace the identities of the 3 hiders via knowledge gained.
5) Because Hiders are compulsive, all the scum need to begin to do is pool shots that give them the most info... and then pool shots that are highest likely to kill Hiders. Average 1 hider will die from targetting scum, and 1 hider will die from walking into a bullet so all scum need to do is identify 1 hider in excess, to my mind, and they'll have the game mostly won on average.
So the issue here is this plan benefits scum greatly.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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whatIn post 224, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
I thought everyone except the daughters is a double voter for a specific pregame day?In post 223, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:3a) Did someone target them? If they didn't die, they're not a hider
3b) Did someone target their nightkill? If they didn;t die, they're not a hider.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Hey idiot detectiveIn post 384, Kyoko Kirigiri~ wrote:Vote:LLD
After careful consideration I have reached the conclusion that her chance for being scum is higher than Vax (Who was my other candidate to vote.)
I am not going to reiterate what Kagami said, I will add however that if LLD is truthful I cannot see any motivation from town to reveal they made such a setup mistake,seeing as that would only benefit scum. Daughter would obviously be aware of their own roles.
As scum however it could be used as bait to gauge reactions in order to figure out the sisters, something no town should do.
Hinduragi you said you had similar thoughts as her so I have a question for you. Do you see any reason for her to actually reveal she thought that?
She herself said she realised it was a bad idea for scum to know their identities after realising her mistake yet in the same post she was shouting she isn't one herself.
1) why are you going out of your way to determine for scum who is and isn't a Daughter?
2) why do you think I am incapable of acting in specific ways to generate wifom about my identity?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'll read the rest of whatever later. Just wanted to call out the hypocritical bullshit that is "Oh you messed up understanding something, let's inform scum that you're a daughter so they DEFINITELY don't miss it! BIG RED FLARE."Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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In post 382, Kotoko Utsugi wrote:Vax im going to need you to take everything down like 10 notches
Im feeling kinda shakey about Kokichis vote tbhIn post 383, Kokichi Oma wrote:This is the part where you tell me what's shaky about it?
Answer this.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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In post 300, Kagami wrote:I remain somewhat anti-vax (nyuk, nyuk).
I also admit that part of this is that it strikes me as really, really strange that LLD entered with a kagami scumread.
Tell me, if you're town and suddenly discover that the masons are compulsive hiders and not commuters, what are some of the first things you think of? Let's say within 4 minutes.Vote: KagamiYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Hi Friend, sorry you drew scum this game. #friendlygreetingIn post 309, Kagami wrote:
Well, if you're LLD, you apparently come up with a rebuttal to something you read within the past 4 minutes minus typing time (as otherwise it would have been super obvious that they're hiders, not commuters). You also work out an alternative to the obvious scum strategy.In post 304, Hinduragi wrote:
"this game is gonna be way harder than I thought"Tell me, if you're town and suddenly discover that the masons are compulsive hiders and not commuters, what are some of the first things you think of?
"dang, my whole post needs to be deleted"
And you've also generated tinglies about Kagami,someone who expected a friendly greeting upon game entry.This also happened in that 4 minute window, since nothing kagami has said makes any sense if masons are commuters.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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ftr, in advance of Kagami coming in and doing some more "look at me I'm so town I'm game solving by putting out python code instead of hunting for scum, oh look LLD said she felt weird about me that's a free interaction for me to relate it back to game strategy things so I need only point to that" I'm going to let you know that this is a large chunk of why I scum read Kagami,especiallysince Kagami has failed to comment on my concerns with their plan, instead taking that opportunity to set up for a vote on me later by discrediting me now.
We lynch Kagami today and we win this game simple as that.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Now I'm gonna go take some more fucking nyquil and go the fuck back to sleep. I would say "this game makes me sick" but no, I was sick before this game started.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Very. By this point, very very. Kagami has now called me "Wildly dishonest" but has refused to address my points regarding her opening and strategies, or satisfy my concerns about her plans. This is deflection from Kagami.In post 398, Hinduragi wrote:Yo LLD, how strongly you feeling Kagami scum?
I've put her in an awkward spot. You'll note she calls me dishonest butIS NOT VOTING ME. What townie makes those kinds of posts but remains off my wagon? None.
But I'll tell you who does. A scumfuck who is petrified I'll explode on them and drive a charisma based wagon through their heart. They want this game to sink back to normal levels of activity. They're hoping I'll reach 0 on the "giving a fuck" meter and then they can compromise lynch me at day end.
That's the read on Kagami's current behaviour I have and people should put more votes on Kagami.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Hindu's town. Trust me I'm watching for anyone who might want to buddy me and hide in my shadow, but Hindu is town, his interaction with Vax is EXACTLY what I remember of Hindu town and his motivatiosn thus far feel town as well.In post 403, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: hinduragi
Finally a real scumread the day you say anything of use and not be in LLD's ass like you've been doing would be great do you tr her if so what do you think of the people on her wagon
with a lot of words I see barely any stances or content from you
Come vote Kagami?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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God I twitch all over.In post 426, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Wait, Snarky's in this game?
Can you comment on some of the recent interactions i.e Kagami vs. me/ Hindu vs. Vax and other people's stances on thosE?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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nvm jk I missed her vote on me.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I need to rethink then.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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her vote wasn't in any of her big posts when I was looking for if she answered my concerns or addressed me much directly!In post 433, Hinduragi wrote:LOLLL pls
then I ISO'd her with cntrl-f LLD and there it was in a blank post from ages ago.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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man I just slept for like 16 hours.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ok, ok. So with a vote already on me, I guess these posts could be construed as Kagami putting pressure on me but... what pressure? She calls me dishonest but doesn't point to where, she says it is weird I had a scum read on her, but doesn't point to why.
The total of her content to me feels as if she's standing on nothing.
5 FOOT NOTHING! HUNDRED AND NOTHING!
... I guess what I'm saying is I want Kagami toElucidatefor me the statements I am pointing at, because I'm feeling like I'm looking at air.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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ok one second.In post 437, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
If I could form an opinion on those interactions i'd have done so already, It's not easy for me to discern who's telling the truth and who's lying from an outside stand point. I did give my general reads on the players tho.In post 429, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
God I twitch all over.In post 426, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Wait, Snarky's in this game?
Can you comment on some of the recent interactions i.e Kagami vs. me/ Hindu vs. Vax and other people's stances on thosE?
I swear to god if this is a reads list with a bunch of null reads on it I quit lmao.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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This one?In post 405, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Dunno, I found Red coming to try to dismantle a potential TvT townie.
Kagami looks town to me.
Not liking Nos atm, Vax was just a sheep vote because I didnt know where to put my vote.
Kotoko looks townie, Kirigiristill better than Shuichilooks town
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Ok, then can you step out of your box, and even if it comes down on "I have no fucking idea what any of this means, but this is how I feel" go through Kagami and go through Vax?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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also my vote on Kagami only remains as kind of a "so I don't forget to make her eludicate at me".
I'm a lot less confident.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Willing to accept Kaede!town. I mostly want to get more from her.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You did, but I'm more looking for like, point to specific posts and tell me how they each make you feel. You can ignore things that make you feel nothign, but not oens that make you not understand how you feel.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!In post 494, Kagami wrote:Yep, I think AD is too, to be fair.
I'm not expecting too much here until LLD decides she's claiming Daughter, and then we get to lynch her.
Scumteam lives mostly if not entirely lives in {Cabd, LLD, Yuki, Snarky, Vax, Joey, Kyoko, Kokichi}.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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This logic doesn't follow at all. This is like you're trying to force a narrative that is completely untrue onto this game.In post 504, Kagami wrote:LLD doesn't know that masons are commuters in 120, at 6:41 pm
LLD has a large set of thoughts about the setup and a scumread on kagami in 123 and 124 at 6:54 pm.
If you believe that, then she went from having read nothing (since basically any page of the entire game tells you that the masons aren't commuters) to having read the entire game with meaning, developed an (albeit nonsensical) stance on daughter strategy, and typed a fairly long post about it in the space of 14 minutes.
That didn't happen, and then there's 225.
Thus you believe one of two things. LLD is a daughter who is being o so tricksy and clever with hiding that, or she's scum.
I'm telling you that she's the latter. I think yourself and Hindu are thinking the former, or else you're both just goofballs.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Here is the ACTUAL logical path following.
1) Read through thread, see Kagami's posting. Think it is too complex and also, the tone and other things give me a tingle. Bad feeligns towards Kagami.
2) Start writing a separate plan where all the Daughters claim and we start isolating targets based on those actions because it locks scum away.
3) Think that this seems too game breaking and FG probably wouldn't do this, so I wonder what roles could stop commuters.
4) Look at the rules again, see "Hider", plan scrapped.
5) Go back and re-read Kagami plan with new information. Re-read does not take long, have already read it, just a re-parse.
6) Post about why that plan doesn't make sense to me and why I feel that plan has holes.
How is this a fucking logical inconsistency?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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ALSO, ALSO.In post 531, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!In post 494, Kagami wrote:Yep, I think AD is too, to be fair.
I'm not expecting too much here until LLD decides she's claiming Daughter, and then we get to lynch her.
Scumteam lives mostly if not entirely lives in {Cabd, LLD, Yuki, Snarky, Vax, Joey, Kyoko, Kokichi}.
MORE PEOPLE NEED TO READ THIS FUCKIG POST BECAUSE IT BOARDERS ON SCUM CLAIM LMAO.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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The bolded is where she is forcing a false narrative. It is entirely possible for me to have read this game assuming the Daughters are commuters.In post 504, Kagami wrote:LLD doesn't know that masons are commuters in 120, at 6:41 pm
LLD has a large set of thoughts about the setup and a scumread on kagami in 123 and 124 at 6:54 pm.
If you believe that, then she went from having read nothing (since basically any page of the entire game tells you that the masons aren't commuters)to having read the entire game with meaning, developed an (albeit nonsensical) stance on daughter strategy, and typed a fairly long post about it in the space of 14 minutes.
That didn't happen, and then there's 225.
Thus you believe one of two things. LLD is a daughter who is being o so tricksy and clever with hiding that, or she's scum.
I'm telling you that she's the latter. I think yourself and Hindu are thinking the former, or else you're both just goofballs.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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There are actually a few false Narratives that Kagami is trying to force through as "Accepted Truth" in the hopes people will simply agree based on that.
First, she suggests my actions must come from either Daughter or Scum. This is simply untrue as we outlined above. It is entirely possible for LLD to read the thread with a certain blinder on, then recheck those blinders before posting because things felt wrong, and need to readjust. What is the payoff for scum Kagami here? Well, in effect, she's daughter hunting. Quite literally. There are other ways to push this scumread, but she's chosen to do it in a way that daughter hunts. I'm certain Kagami will claim "I'm trying to head off a fake Daughter claim" but in reality what does that accomplish? Nothing that can't be accomplished POST a daughter claim. There is literally no town logical reason to attempt to push a wagon in this manner and a million scum motivations to do so.
Next, she suggests that we will lynch a daughter claim if we're certain it is scum. That's an awful fucking idea. Why the fuck would you bother lynching a naked daughter claim, when the win condition is "Ensure Daughters do not die". Let's even suppose that someone counter claims the daughter claim and now you have two daugfhters both claiming they aren't with each other. Parfait! It's so simple. You let them both live. Because as long as there is more than 1 scum alive there is no difference for the first few days, between life and death for them. Lynching incorrectly, scum are probably MORE than happy to trade one for one with a daughter (btw, that might be what Kagami is angling for). There comes a time where the case will solve itself (a hider dies by night play), but the real advantage of not lynching either is thatEVERY SUCCESSFUL HIDE CREATES A CONFIRMED TOWNIE ONCE A CONFIRMED DAUGHTER IS SHOWN. The fact that Kagami has ignored this little bit of information tells me the scum are terrified of being PoE'd out of this game and want to lynch daughter claims on a general rule (because they know they're truthful!).Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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No, you need to read a little deeper.In post 537, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
I think the one that needs to read it is you.In post 534, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
ALSO, ALSO.In post 531, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!In post 494, Kagami wrote:Yep, I think AD is too, to be fair.
I'm not expecting too much here until LLD decides she's claiming Daughter, and then we get to lynch her.
Scumteam lives mostly if not entirely lives in {Cabd, LLD, Yuki, Snarky, Vax, Joey, Kyoko, Kokichi}.
MORE PEOPLE NEED TO READ THIS FUCKIG POST BECAUSE IT BOARDERS ON SCUM CLAIM LMAO.
Kagami's logic is pretty easy to follow, they think you're not a daugther regardless and wont believe a daughter claim from you because they don't think (just like i did waaay back then), you'd confuse the daughter role and call it commuter instead of hider if you were one, on the exception of:
Not a post of wanting to lynch someone claiming daughter.In post 504, Kagami wrote:LLD is a daughter who is being o so tricksy and clever with hiding that
Which what I assume is what you're reading it as.
It doesn't matter if she believes a daughter claim from me or not, it matters that SHE IS WILLING TO LYNCH A DAUGHTER CLAIM AT ALL. See my above post for details.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Here comes the all in. She knows she can't feasibly back down now without looking weak and losing both footholding in this game and towncred. SHE KNOWS she's been caught out doing manipulative bullshit.In post 536, Kagami wrote:No.
After all my words, all my things I point at, this is all she has to say.
I don't fucking think so.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I also would like to point out that DESPITE ME LITERALLY POINTING AT IT SEVERAL TIMES, Kagami has refused to analyse my criticisms of her plan.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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aight I can't wait around all day for Kaede to come back (which btw annoys the fuck out of me. Pop in and misunderstand the point and then leave before I can clarify grumble grumble fucking grumble).
I'm going to play boardgames tonight. Won't be back on for a while, will have my phone, might check in and read but unlikely to post.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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