Night Clan - [Game Over]

[Vaxkiller]

Lets get LLD riled up.

VOTE: LLD

[Vaxkiller]

I'm lost.

[Vaxkiller]

Ok now I see.

/confirm

[Vaxkiller]

Also action dan is town

[Vaxkiller]

Masons?

[Vaxkiller]

Seemed liek a good idea to me. But the counter points are better.

AD still prob town.

[Vaxkiller]

Well obviously one daughter dying is better than revealing others, so I would encourage the daughters to not out themselves to save another.

Im actually still confused on how AD's idea reveals the "set". I thought his idea was if you are a daughter, you hide behind the next person in the player list, so if a daughter dies, we know who the scum is.

[Vaxkiller]

Oh I *think* I see. If they skip pl they know to be daughters... we could lyncha daughter unless someone saves them

NM.

[Vaxkiller]

Better, there is low probability of all 3 masons being 3 in a row.

I think scum would look for the people who are forgetful/lackadaisical about saying up or down and it would point to the daughters more easily.

Maybe not say up or down, but:

N1 Choose the person above or below you in the player list.
N2 Choose the person 2 slots above or below you in the list.
etc...

[Vaxkiller]

WAit. No.

[Vaxkiller]

All this talk is dumb... how many scum are there? We shouldn't be using them as "scum detectors" Daughters need to find someone they know to be town and hide there. Maybe to avoid all the daughters hiding int he same place they can choose the towniest person near them int he player list.

[Vaxkiller]

Time for the conversation to stop, I am going to present a solution we can all agree on shortly.

Ummm, that's fine, but everyone should still talk.

[Vaxkiller]

AD still prob town.

why

For starting the conversation on how to keep daughters safe and how (effectively) to find scum if a daughter dies.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm a hard _no_ on this code idea. I have no idea what your supposed to do.

[Vaxkiller]

AD still prob town.

why

For starting the conversation on how to keep daughters safe and how (effectively) to find scum if a daughter dies.

That's an ineveitable convo and I don't see how starting it would make you town.

Well I didn't think of it, and he was the first.

What if I told you I liked the cut of his jib?

[Vaxkiller]

All this talk is dumb... how many scum are there? We shouldn't be using them as "scum detectors"

Again this. If we leave it up to chance they are all just going to end up dead. They need to do thier own thing.

[Vaxkiller]

By chance I mean ignoring what is happening IN the game and just rolling dice or going by some sorta of algorithm.

[Vaxkiller]

AD still prob town.

why

For starting the conversation on how to keep daughters safe and how (effectively) to find scum if a daughter dies.

That's an ineveitable convo and I don't see how starting it would make you town.

Well I didn't think of it, and he was the first.

What if I told you I liked the cut of his jib?

in any setup that revolves around a town minority that should be protected, its only natural that people will try to manipulate the setup to protect them. Starting that convo should not be townread, and especially not the one he came up with, with all of its flaws.

You really think it was a scum motivated plan?

I get waht your saying, but I didn't see any scumminess behind his thoughts, besides that, I gave him a town read on page1? (maybe page2) Maybe you think I have AD as lock town? I don't.

[Vaxkiller]

There has to be a means of coordination or the masons just die and town learns nothing

^ x a billion

But that coordination could cost us everything.

[Vaxkiller]

There has to be a means of coordination or the masons just die and town learns nothing

^ x a billion

But that coordination could cost us everything.

This is fluffy fear-mongering.

If there's a rigged coin that lands in my favor 65% of the time, I'll bet the game on it happily even if there's a 35% chance that it costs me everything.

Now your just making up percentages as if they have ANYTHING to do with the actual chances of the ideas we proposed.

[Vaxkiller]

I get that, but we cant remove the daughters ability to choose.

What if daughters choose within 3 people above and below them to hide behind? MAYBE 2 above and below. It gives us an idea of where they were at least.


Also, we will have a VERY CLEAR IDEA whether they visited scum or hid behind the NK... hiding behind the NK results and 2 dead.

[Vaxkiller]

If we make a plan I think it should be one where daughters don't have to out
I like playing this set up like coper13 where people basically say
"if I'm a daughter I'm hiding behind _____"

I think then it becomes very powerful to shoot people who have a lot of people hypo-hiding behind them.

Or for scum to daughter hunt and NK the person they think they are hiding behind.

[Vaxkiller]

Nos?

Thoughts>?

[Vaxkiller]

Your code. ELI5.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm a hard no on Kagamis plan.

[Vaxkiller]

I thought about it (and hopefully most people did) but I think a formalized set hypo-targeting plan for daughters is a good way to start this game for at least the first night.

The simplest is everyone targets the next available non-daughter below them on the playerlist. #1 targets #2 etc. (unless #1 and #2 are both daughters than #1 targets #3, number #2 targets #4, granted this would suck, but it's a necessary evil; all plans of this sort run into the same problem but we can vote on any arbitrary one possibly).

I think we should agree to this relatively quickly before Mafia get any sense of the flow of the game. Doing this now avoids crumbs and an awkward hypo-claim process later.
Simply quote
Yeah
Nay

to express approval. I don't want this to be a drawn out affair

I read this post as town (as it did another, but you only addressed me). Regardless of weather the idea would work out or not the post sounds real. It doesn't sound contrived, made up, or some kind of secret scum agenda.

[Vaxkiller]

Ugh, I fucked something up and the same code is there every time I visit the site. Went incognito to fix that issue, but I'm about to leave work, will try later tonight.

You guys are talking to someone who failed Turbo Pascal 15+ years ago. I'd really love a simpler solution.

[Vaxkiller]

I guess I just need to wait longer.

[Vaxkiller]

First of all. NO We are not implementing a random chance plan in place. Its fucking stupid. Do we really want to roll fucking dice with our daughters choosing who to hide behind? THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED THAT WAY.

ANY plan that does not allow for choice I will NOT agree to.

LLD scum slip? Ehhhh. Her answer is prolly true any way she flips.

Oh hi MariaR! Yeah yeah I know I played with your alt before, but MariaR is easier for me to remember over this alt.

[Vaxkiller]

Without choice is the problem I have.

The hiders need to choose or they have a increased risk of dying.

[Vaxkiller]

Adding the caveat just makes the plan worthless anyway.

[Vaxkiller]

Maybe we should write program to decide today's lynch too then.

[Vaxkiller]

The "current plan" is not fine because everyone has not agreed to it.

If you want to move the discussion along, then move it!

[Vaxkiller]

Anyone voting Kaede mind telling me why? Then I'll tell you why they are town.

[Vaxkiller]

Actually I think everyone may have unvoted them.

[Vaxkiller]

3a) Did someone target them? If they didn't die, they're not a hider
3b) Did someone target their nightkill? If they didn;t die, they're not a hider.

I thought everyone except the daughters is a double voter for a specific pregame day?

I think this is a town slip.

[Vaxkiller]

Not to me.

[Vaxkiller]

I would not be surprised if LLD claims daughter. They are not acting like a daughter tho.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax is shitposting

ANYONE who is clearly trying to bring out daughter claims from here on out needs to up their game. We are not daughter hunting in this game. Scum are free to fakeclaim it but I'll be damned if we are trying to run people up on the premise of claiming daughter.

By your definition I guess you are too.

On the note of daughters. Scum ARE daughter hunting and I think town is going to fuck this all up by not realizing scum are watching them.

[Vaxkiller]

I don't mean claiming daughter at L-1 or something, I mean that in her very first posts, she overtly claimed non-daughter.

These ones?

Ah, I just realized they're hiders, not commuters.

There are three Daughters in this game. They are aligned with Town, and know each other's identities.

From the rule set, Hindu. They're confirmed town and know each other's identities. That's definition of Mason.

Fair enough. I just assumed without a PT they would simply be hiders.

Do you have any thoughts on things so far, LLD?

I was writing a big post about "why don't the daughters all just claim?" but the more I thought about it the more awful it sounded because I realized they were hiders, and not commuters like I thoguht when I read the rules post first.

[Vaxkiller]

Need a votecount plz.

[Vaxkiller]

I think you should reread her with the understanding that maybe she made a legitimate mistake. Something odd she said will suddenly make a lot of sense.

The legitimate mistake was in wording her 3 scum post. Her scum-game is not this careless, especially in her first serious posts in a game.

I don't think anyone is scum reading LLD for that post. I can see LLD making that post as town or scum. It's content they made after.

[Vaxkiller]

Hinduragi, don't be Vi, especially when you're somehow coming from a very similar place as I am while somehow arriving at a very wildly different conclusion.

I'm not. If I'm overconfident on anyone, it's Kaede/Josh. This is the wrong tree unless you've got reasons.

Don't tell me you haven't seen Vax's posts on this page either amid all this. They're all awful.

Ok, so you think they are awful. Whats makes them scummy?

[Vaxkiller]

Daughter hunting and expecting a daughter flip on a player inthread amid a conversation you have no business being in. Not to mention there's 0 reason to make that post as town.

I need to take a deep breathe here so I attack the play and not the player.

This was fucking rude. Like complete asshole behavior. I'm playing a game with you and you say I have no fuckign business POST AND GIVING OPINIONS. YOU SHOULD FUCKING WANT ME TO GIVE MY GOD DAMN OPINION ON EVERYTHING SO YOU CAN SORT ME OUT.

BUT NO, YOU HAVE THIS GOD DAMN HARD ON FOR ME BEING SCUM? WHY?

FUCKING WHY?

Like from your point on view your posting as if I'm confirmed scum, and then ask me to just shut the fuck up. YOU DON'T WANT ME TO TALK TO TRY AND GET A BETTER FUCKIGN READ?????

THEN YOU POST THIS SHIT:

Just so everyone is following, whenever Vax has mentioned LLD, he has always said "could be town or scum".

WHEN I EXPLICITLY SAID ONE ACTION OF LLD'S COULD BE TOWN OR SCUM.

ONE FUCKING ATION.

I can only come to one conclusion from all this bullshit you are putting forth here, re-writing things to suit your needs.

Your scum, fuck your play, get lynched.

VOTE: Hinduragi

[Vaxkiller]

amid a conversation you have no business being in.

Is what set me off. I took this as "I don't give a shit about what you think, why are you even here".

Everyone has business being in any conversation as we are all in the same game.

[Vaxkiller]

I generally don't get along well with people who have an over inflated opinion of themselves and I read that post as being very dismissive of ME, not my thoughts and ideas.

I play mafia to have fun. I don't pretend to be good at it. I play to win, but my enjoyment is not dependent on winning.

To continue with the game, I still don't like his re-writing of my past.

Here is waht I said:

I don't think anyone is scum reading LLD for that post. I can see LLD making that post as town or scum.

Here is what Hunduragi said I said:

Just so everyone is following, whenever Vax has mentioned LLD, he has always said "could be town or scum".

[Vaxkiller]

1.

Yeah, I'm not buying what you're selling, bud. You asked why you're scummy and you got it.

You never told me why. More lies. Tell me why you think I'm scum without using that post.

2.

Pray tell, you think I'm misrepresenting you oh so badly but I'm not. In fact, my post pretty much abridges exactly what you said in a perfect paraphrase.

You gotta be KIDING me.

I don't think anyone is scum reading LLD for that post. I can see LLD making that post as town or scum. It's content they made after.

and

Just so everyone is following, whenever Vax has mentioned LLD, he has always said "could be town or scum".

Are so different. I don't even know how I could ELI5 it for ya but here it goes.

Vax's post indicates that 1 thing LLD has said could be town or scum.

Hinduragi post indicates whenever I talk about LLD I always say they could be town or scum. This is not true. This is shading and changing the narrative to the extreme.

3. I'm pissed because you completely dismissed me in game, you told me I should not have been included myself in the conversation, as if your opinions were the only ones that mattered, and I need not contribute any of my useless thoughts.

Maybe is a language barrier. Maybe its a misunderstanding. Maybe (probably) its just something that really irks me. I'm over it now (in a way) you are who you are and I'll just come to expect such behavior from you in the future, you keep doing you.

No matter what it is it doesn't change anything. You keep changing past posts to suit your own needs and you should be lynched for it.

[Vaxkiller]

Nos, I wasn't sure about you before, but I think your town now.

[Vaxkiller]

It's a comforting feeling.

[Vaxkiller]

I don't think anyone is scum reading LLD for that post. I can see LLD making that post as town or scum. It's content they made after.

[Vaxkiller]

With that said,

Unvote; Vote: Yuki

. I'm p sure I know who you are, Kotoko.

I've legitimately assumed Vax was trolling me this entire time.

So you would you vote someone who is just trolling you?

Just to be clear I wasn't. (from my opinion)

[Vaxkiller]

SnarkySnowman- who

Heh, this.

[Vaxkiller]

Kotoko Utsugi- garbino

Whats a garbino?

[Vaxkiller]

LLD is also quiet during all this commotion.

[Vaxkiller]

With that said,

Unvote; Vote: Yuki

. I'm p sure I know who you are, Kotoko.

I've legitimately assumed Vax was trolling me this entire time.

So you would you vote someone who is just trolling you?

The only reason anyone would be trolling in that situation is one in which they're scum so yes.

Can you point out the specific posts where I was trolling you and looked scummy?

[Vaxkiller]

Can you point out the specific posts where I was trolling you and looked scummy?

No thanks, I'm kinda done with this. Please reread what I've said and ask specific questions if you want. I don't wanna vote for you anymore and I'm ready to move on to other areas.

Your anger's the trolling I'm referring to. The other trolling at first was your posting in general. I already said why I thought you were scummy.

Here the thing. I'm done with being angry. But your still not answering my questions.

You just say "Vax is trolling, I don't need to answer him"

If you guys can't handle some anger wait till LLD gets back and see where shes at in the VC.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax im going to need you to take everything down like 10 notches

Im feeling kinda shakey about Kokichis vote tbh

Is this mafia?

I'm not yelling anymore, and I'm asking questions that are just being ignored.

[Vaxkiller]

This is one of the oddest games I've been in to date.

[Vaxkiller]

There are ALOT of people not voting.

[Vaxkiller]

Sorry for not posting over the weekend, reading now.

[Vaxkiller]

I actually think this game would be faster to sort if I just started with the anime peeps.

My thoughts too!

[Vaxkiller]

There's people that TR Kagami for posting the code?

Geez, you guys treat reads like there set in stone.

I gave Kagami some town points for this, even tho it was and still is a terrible idea.

[Vaxkiller]

I really liked Ad's 642 post, except this:

Screw links as well.

Id still rather lynch Hindu first tho.

[Vaxkiller]

Also, he implied numerous time that my posts were scummy ish, he made about 2-3 comments in his catch up post about my posts, slightly shading me each time.

Can you point these out for me?

[Vaxkiller]

OBVIOUSLY FUCKING TOWN

Can people stop saying things like this. Provide why. Stuff like the above makes us stop and think "maybe they say obviously because they are all daughters" and the ONLY reason I'm talking about this specific instance is because we know LLD CAN'T be a daughter.

So what am i supposed to think? You and Hindu are just SOOO sure on your town read but you can't explain why that you have to say shit like this or your just scum pretending to throw our daughter claims?

[Vaxkiller]

Its mind boggling to me that someone could scumread lld honestly and ash who just recently towned it up even further

So you were town reading them before they were towny?

[Vaxkiller]

I pretty sure Maki (MariaR) is town.

[Vaxkiller]

Players are prodded upon request.

Yeah sorry about this I should have VLA'd last weekend.

[Vaxkiller]

REBUTTAL WHAT

THAT'S NOT EVEN A VERB

In the game these characters are from, it's an "event" type deal. You wouldn't understand without being a weeb like me.

I'm just kinda ignoring it because I have no idea what to do with that specific information.

[Vaxkiller]

the only one that had a patch was the first one tho

the second one had a patch in progress for psp that was abandoned

Whats a patch?

[Vaxkiller]

I feel like Vax is actively lurking and it's pinging the fuck out of me. I mean, really, if you're nervous scum and just exited a 1v1 where everyone unvoted you, you'd want to just escape for a bit, right? Please tell me I'm just being paranoid.

Sorry for not posting over the weekend, reading now.

@Hindu - thank you
@Vax - That was one heckuva beetlejuice

Rofl.

[Vaxkiller]

also, @Vax, you're making townleaning you a chore.

Pretty much my thoughts on you.

[Vaxkiller]

0 days, 22 hours, 8 minutes

Ugh.

VOTE: Boring

[Vaxkiller]

Pumba are you town

who dat?

[Vaxkiller]

btw if ____ isn't a daughter there scum to me but they've been my daughter read since about half of day 1 so...ehh like you should know the soft I'm talking about

the only thing this post achieve is softing claiming non-daugther ftr

It's also a wee bit scummy.

[Vaxkiller]

Maki that is.

[Vaxkiller]

I could be, if anyone would give me the time of day

Yeah fuck this. You had 48 hours during night 1.

Errr, stuff has happened since then.

[Vaxkiller]

DO I still "lean scum" cephir?

[Vaxkiller]

I page top like crazy this game

[Vaxkiller]

I feel like hes not even trying

[Vaxkiller]

Joey, I give you my maki town read from yesterday. Use it wisely.

[Vaxkiller]

Are you having any fun cephir?

[Vaxkiller]

I want to get some clarity here: who on this wagon is voting Ceph because they think LLD hid behind him?

Is this why everyone is voting him.

THat flew over my head.

[Vaxkiller]

As much as I believe Hindu is scum, there is now another voice in my head telling me they are town. This is incredibly frustrating, and I feel like I need to move past it for the moment. Just search through LLD's post history, they were going after kagami the entire day. THe only moment of doubt was right at the end, but I woudl think LLD would hide there to make sure.

and I don't even know where I stand on Kagami right now tbh.

I'm still confused on how you get that LLD hid behind Hindu, is there some sort of code im missing? LLD does love that stuff.

Maki looks worse today and I would like to push there right now.

VOTE: Maki

I could have hammered cephir earlier, but I don't feel that strongly about them, would still lynch in a time crunch.

AD gets a no lynch pass for today for starting the boring wagon (altho their vote was kinda random)

Everyone whose name begins with K: Alignment = ?

[Vaxkiller]

BTW there is pretty much no purpose to discussing any sort of "plan" to where daughters hide, how are we going to know which plan they are following or accept? We could ALL agree on something, but THAT is not going to happen, so lets just let them do their thing. They should be targeting town and clearing them anyway so they can conf town people in a few days and then it will be ez pz.

[Vaxkiller]

Defeatist attitude, same for vax.

Not so. I'm saying you can't just say we are doing "x" because we have no way of verifying they agreed to it, so when something happens you think you can track we wind up in the same WIFOM as before because we don't know if they were following a plan or not.

The only way around this is for EVERYONE to agree which wont happen.

[Vaxkiller]

Vote maki with me and do something.

[Vaxkiller]

It's only stalling out because no one is giving thoughts. Like no ones opinion has changed at all since Day 1?

[Vaxkiller]

I don't agree to it and Hindi doesnt want to talk about it anymore, so that's 2 people.

[Vaxkiller]

I don't agree to it and Hindi doesnt want to talk about it anymore, so that's 2 people.

why do you disagree

I re-read it. I guess it's not that bad. I'm sorry I skimmed over it and dismissed it out of hand.

A few of the numbers need tweaked but I would agree to this.

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Hinduragi

Can you tell me why?

[Vaxkiller]

Can someone help me pressure Maki? I really don't like how they are going after the low hanging fruit (snarky) hes just lurking, not necessarily scummy.

[Vaxkiller]

Realtalk theory: lack of daughters coming forward means LLD possibly hid behind kagami after all.

Hit or miss?

I'm 99% sure LLD hid behind Kagami.

[Vaxkiller]

Don't let your dreams become meme's.

[Vaxkiller]

Soooo were just going to lynch a lurker today?

[Vaxkiller]

Ok

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Hindi

[Vaxkiller]

Excitement!

[Vaxkiller]

It's not for everyone!

[Vaxkiller]

But Pagetops are mine!

[Vaxkiller]

Yeah, but I still hate this lynch.

[Vaxkiller]

No. That's town.

Cabd I love you, but if your really not felling this game consider replacing.

[Vaxkiller]

Okay I think i get it now?

Whats that?

[Vaxkiller]

IMO if we have a few living clears we can just try to brute-force the last one from a pool.

I'm wondering this too, we could have up to 4 clears and as little as 2.

With 12 people, delete yourself for 11 people, that still puts the pool to choose from between 9 and 7.

I would prefer doing this tomorrow with the pool to choose from (after clears) being anywhere between 7 and 3

[Vaxkiller]

Actually worse case scenario is tomorrow they are both dead ad we lose, or one dead, which brings down clears, but I still think its worth the risk.

[Vaxkiller]

Secondary wincon? What am I missing here?

[Vaxkiller]

I'm wondering this too, we could have up to 4 clears and as little as 2.

we could have as many as 7 and i don't see how fewer than 4 is possible.

We only have 2 daughters alive, times 2 days is 4 max people to hide behind? It's entirely possible that daughters hid behind the same person both nights and or daughters hid behind the same target or day 1's targets died N2 ..... so as little as 2, but really I suppose it could be 1.

I'm also running off the assumption the daughters are not following any type of plan because all plans were non-sense.

[Vaxkiller]

Joey isn’t playing any bullshit in this game

If he’s pocketed me by now, he’s won, I don’t see a world where Joey is scum

Concur

[Vaxkiller]

Btw watch out about calling Vax out on being fake. The emotional argument is real

Ok, I’m going to sheep you on your townread for now then

I was mad because you told me I had no business posting, I took it as if you were telling me to just quit. Maybe I read into something that was not intended or not there.

[Vaxkiller]

daytalk his last post about making it a chore to townlean him could be a hint to tone down his play from a partner.

This is something I believe as well. I just don’t want to push on him first but Vax is definitely not a pinnacle of all that is town

I don't have the subtlety to crumb things regardless of alignment.

[Vaxkiller]

I can lynch this:
VOTE: Kochiki

[Vaxkiller]

Updated reads. No order

Hinduragi - I changed my mind, I can see a world where he is town. Still a bit suspect of him though. His ending yesterday was good though.
Cabd - Suspicious still. Need him to maybe talk more.
Nosferatu - I'm still sure this is town. His day 1 rambling and argument like that doesn't come from scum.
Maki Harukawa - Meh. She led on snarky so she shouldn't be the lynch today, but she's good as scum. Bussing in this setup is good if you wait it out long enough for another daughter to die
Kaito Momota - He's prob town. But that's just gut read
Cephrir Yuki Takeya - Still think this could be a scum slot.
Vaxkiller - Maybe town? Not sure. His outburst D1 was weird, it wasn't like Nos' so I'm not sure.
Joey_ - I don't know yet. I heard he's good as scum, so need more time.
Kyoko Kirigiri - I think she's town based on D1 ending still. Gut read.
Kotoko Utsugi - She's likely town. When I iso'd her, her change of read on boring seemed natural. And they looked like TvS
Kokichi Oma -Town! Still!
ActionDan- Still not sure.

not gonna lie, i dont like this read list

Hindu should be a townread or at least someone you give much more credit than "i can see a world where hes town" Especially when youre giving townreads like candies to slots like Nos (i dont scumread him either but theres definetely a gap between him and ash)

Theres others reason i dont personnaly like, including mine. I gave enough content i should be able to be read by now

For me, it just has NO stances wahtsoever. Every single stance on everyone is wishy washy, and its not that good wishy washy paranoia, its wishy washy "lets see how the wind blows" kind of reads. Best lynch today.

[Vaxkiller]

Meh, I aint fighting a cabd lynch. Where we at here?

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: cabd

[Vaxkiller]

hawt

[Vaxkiller]

Not sure why I need to give a reads list to someone I'm scum reading, but in case anyone else is interested this is where my heads at.

Hinduragi

I still think this is scum but too many people are town reading this so I'm just going to leave it alone.

Cabd

Probs town but I'm not interested in lynching cephir

Nosferatu

Town

Maki Harukawa

Town

Kaito Momota

Who?

Cephrir

Yuki Takeya

Town

Vaxkiller

Funky Town

Joey_ Super

Town

Kyoko Kirigiri

Who?

Kotoko Utsugi

Who?

Kokichi Oma

Scum

ActionDan

Town

[Vaxkiller]

Isn't it weird you have like the opposite reads of most people here? Also can you explain those reads?

No. What reads are the opposite of most people? I explained my Hindu read for the precise reason. What others?

[Vaxkiller]

I thought I was scum to vax

I was questioning your alignment day 2.

And why is Hindu conf town?

[Vaxkiller]

Basically twice I can target someone and if there a daughter and were to die a stop it

on one hand it saves daughters
on the other it gives false clears
so like??????????????????

Fuck. I'm praying you missed your targets at this point. Claim your targets now plz.

[Vaxkiller]

What if scum have the ability to not cause a daughter to die by visiting?

Are you serious?

[Vaxkiller]

@Alisea. Can't I just skim?

[Vaxkiller]

I MEAN YOU CAN
YOU JUST WON'T MAKE THE READING GODS HAPPY.

I'm more of a blood-god person.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax and Ceph where did you both go to claim.

I'm willing to claim, but I think your scum, waiting until we are all on the same page, or someone townier asks.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax and Ceph where did you both go to claim.

I'm willing to claim, but I think your scum, waiting until we are all on the same page, or someone townier asks.

Don't you TR hind? He asked you to claim too

I'm coming around on Hind.

[Vaxkiller]

He didnt ask me, he asked everyone. Whatever here:

I'm a Day 5 Double Vote, thats it. Yes, I'm a soldier too.

[Vaxkiller]

Funny you ask, im updating my list right now!

[Vaxkiller]

Updating my list

Hinduragi

I still think this is scum but too many people are town reading this so I'm just going to leave it alone.

Prob town

Nosferatu

Town

Maki Harukawa

Town

Kaito Momota

Who?

Cephrir

Yuki Takeya

Town

Vaxkiller

Funky Town

Kotoko Utsugi

Who?

Alisea - Super Town!

Kokichi Oma

Scum, Still

ActionDan

Town

Dead since last read

Cabd

Probs town but I'm not interested in lynching cephir (Told ya)

Joey_ Super

Town

Kyoko Kirigiri

Who?

I think I want to revisit some of my regular town reads (not funky or super town reads).

[Vaxkiller]

Ummm

I'm a Day 5 Double Vote, thats it. Yes, I'm a soldier too.

[Vaxkiller]

What are we waiting on? For Nos to claim, then daughters claim targets to clear ppl?

[Vaxkiller]

They're internally consistent. I just got here, and besides looking at the game to make it register as read and the flps I haven't really been looking at the game in depth. Vax has been here the whole time and didn't realize I replaced Nos.

Wow I missed that. Things are blurring.

[Vaxkiller]

GG
Interesting setup, I liked it!

At least I got one read right lol!


Well played Action Dan

[Vaxkiller]

Hey why did you guys quick lynch me with me getting to talk?

[Vaxkiller]

All good. I didn't have a clear-able role.