Night Clan - [Game Over]

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #266 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:36 pm

Hey, everyone. Let's have a nice fun game. I'm sure nothing bad will happen this game at all. Nee-heehee~

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #267 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:36 pm

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #268 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:40 pm

What if the daughters just checked people in lists of 3? Everyone put out a list of 3 names before the night ends. Daughters can even throw other daughters in their list just to trick scum.

Then, if a daughter dies. We have the 3 suspects fight it out to the death, as one of them will be confirmed to each other.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #321 (isolation #3) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:39 am

I could see LLD flipping scum. Their reactions seem a bit over the top fake.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #322 (isolation #4) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:41 am

Same with Vax. I'm not sure what to think about his one reaction to hinduragi

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #324 (isolation #5) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:43 am

Proof?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #326 (isolation #6) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:50 am

That isn't bad at all

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #344 (isolation #7) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:38 pm

In post 327, Yuki Takeya wrote:/|\

I am /|\

/|\

Megumi isn't here to save you. What are your reads?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #345 (isolation #8) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:39 pm

In post 342, Joey_ wrote:gurl fite

We should have those 2 fight to the death. Maybe one of them is the culprit?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #348 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:56 pm

In post 346, Kotoko Utsugi wrote:Who isn't scum kokichi?

No one has said anything to make me think they aren't scum. I can't even correctly scumhunt, since the daughters have to lie and deceive as well. So now I have to determine the 6 liars, and find out which are town and which are scum.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #349 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:56 pm

In post 347, boring wrote:UNVOTE:

I've played scum with Vax before. It was a really toxic scum PT, and the main game was a roller coaster. He wasn't explosive/reactive.

Unless he's taken a huge departure in meta since then, this isn't scum!Vax.

So because of one game, you think he can't be scum?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #379 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:48 pm

Even though I think LLD is suspect, that is NAI. Nethertheless, I don't have a better vote right now.

VOTE: LLD

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #383 (isolation #12) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:08 pm

This is the part where you tell me what's shaky about it?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #408 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:39 pm

Is it possible that we are all going about this the wrong way?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #410 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:40 pm

In post 404, Joey_ wrote:Town circle -> ash, lld and vax

Why?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #414 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:47 pm

In post 411, Hinduragi wrote:I've given more reads out than 3/4 the playerlist and I'm trying to get more. I'm not exactly sitting around on my ass and popping in like Yuki or commenting on setup only like Kaito.

Looks like someone trying to throw shade on others by subtly saying those things.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #417 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:50 pm

In post 413, Hinduragi wrote:You saving your vote to doublevote an L-2 in?

I can't let this post go without a vote.

VOTE: Hinduragi

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #553 (isolation #17) » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:08 pm

The kitty wants me voted, but can barely explain why. How about you tell me why first?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #559 (isolation #18) » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:23 pm

I never said that, I'm saying you aren't explaining. Tell me why I'm scum, if I'm scum, try and make me slip up. That is the point of this game. You should be putting pressure on your scumreads to get a read on them. So for me to correctly assess your scumread on me.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #560 (isolation #19) » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:23 pm

In post 554, Kotoko Utsugi wrote:How about you do something other than impersonate Kokichi

How does one impersonate themself?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #578 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:24 pm

In post 566, Joey_ wrote:I dont need you to tell me whats the point of the game, my read on you is mainly bs votes that felt opportunistic and that you arent doing much, i just want people to actually do something and vote scumfucks

Then why aren't you doing it to others? What makes me stand out over them, start there.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #579 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:28 pm

In post 575, Kotoko Utsugi wrote:I think hes playing like lynchbait intentionally so im not giving him what he wants

I would

never

do that.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #595 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:58 pm

I'm liking Kaito so far. Surprising.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #643 (isolation #23) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:02 pm

In post 612, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: Nos
Could vote this Kiri Kokichi atm waiting for the non posters to well...post

So you're saying Nos is bussing me? Is that what you're implying?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #644 (isolation #24) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:05 pm

I usually don't like when people just come back with a bunch of numbers and add weak content next to it.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #646 (isolation #25) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:32 pm

It's to ActionDan's post.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #685 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:48 pm

Do Daughters have a mason chat or something? If so, they should just coordinate their visits there. The point of everyone doing a pool of 3 like I was mentioning was just so there would be a trail that way and another daughter wouldn't have to claim or be obvious if they know the daughter died from visiting a specific scum.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #702 (isolation #27) » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:01 am

Still 2 days left, we can make some discussions still.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #728 (isolation #28) » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:37 pm

Explain how they are terrible. Or specific posts that are terrible and why.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #756 (isolation #29) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:03 pm

In post 734, Kagami wrote:
In post 728, Kokichi Oma wrote:Explain how they are terrible. Or specific posts that are terrible and why.
Off the top off my head, there's a part where you make a show of wanting reads from yuki, and then never concern yourself with the slot or ask fg to prod. There's a post about being o so lost because there are town players who want to hide their role. There's 417 that makes pretty much 0 sense and a post a million pages in about the daughters that implies you have no clue what's going on.

I agree with dan that 417 is probably town-indicative.

I was waiting for Yuki to contribute. If 417 makes 0 sense, why do you town read it. Also, there are town players who have to lie, so that's why I said it's harder to determine who is scum lying or town lying.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #757 (isolation #30) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:05 pm

In post 739, Hinduragi wrote:Kokichi, I still want to know what your reads are or if you have any. If you have any general thoughts or main ideas about the game, please share them.

I've shared what I've had to say, I have no strong reads besides those, or I would be pushing on them.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #758 (isolation #31) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:06 pm

In post 746, Kaito Momota wrote:Nice detective work, we should look into this

It's always the detective that thinks they are right.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #759 (isolation #32) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:08 pm

Perhaps you should rebuttal, Kirigiri

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #764 (isolation #33) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:55 pm

A lynch

VOTE: Nosferatu

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #775 (isolation #34) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:34 pm

Because he's scum faking this. Vote Nos.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #778 (isolation #35) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:41 pm

In post 777, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 775, Kokichi Oma wrote:Because he's scum faking this. Vote Nos.
FAKING WHAT

YOU MAKE
NO SENSE

That's wrong!

You know what a rebuttal showdown is. Thus doing a rebuttal in the rebuttal showdown is an action. Thus making it a verb.

If you're going to argue something so silly, at least be right.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #803 (isolation #36) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:20 pm

In post 788, Joey_ wrote:
In post 775, Kokichi Oma wrote:Because he's scum faking this. Vote Nos.
Curious too that youre asking someone to vote nos yet you arent vote him in your next 2-3 posts

I already voted him.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #804 (isolation #37) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:22 pm

In post 802, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 797, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 775, Kokichi Oma wrote:Because he's scum faking this. Vote Nos.
I agree that he looks overblown in his reaction to you and kiri

Nosferatu, do you have a rebuttal?
^^ SEE THIS GUY RIGHT HERE KNOWS WTF IS GOING ON

you HAVE a rebuttal

you don't DO a rebuttal

it's just that simple

You're just fillering at this point, are you going to answer his question or no.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #806 (isolation #38) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:26 pm

Wh-Why would you say something s-so m-mean...

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #807 (isolation #39) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:26 pm

WAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU'RE SO MEAN

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #809 (isolation #40) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:31 pm

In post 808, Nosferatu wrote:pedit: a child in africa just starved to death because of those posts you just made

I see you're an expert in bad jokes, aren't you?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #811 (isolation #41) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:32 pm

Kotoko, what do you think of Nos?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #813 (isolation #42) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:34 pm

That's nice, so can you answer the question? What do you think of Nos?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #880 (isolation #43) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:17 am

I wouldn't be opposed to a boring lynch, maybe. Don't like when they flipped from me to action on poor reasoning.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #928 (isolation #44) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:23 pm

In post 883, FakeGod wrote:Countdown to deadline: 0 days, 18 hours, 37 minutes

Okay we need to vote someone. No more splitting votes.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #929 (isolation #45) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:24 pm

It's between boring or Action Dan.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #993 (isolation #46) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:26 pm

I'll listen to the cat.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #999 (isolation #47) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:29 pm

I suggest everyone out 3 names that they would check in if they were daughter.

ActionDan
Nosferatu
Joey_

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1000 (isolation #48) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:30 pm

I'm fine with lynch Boring too since she claimed, actually.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1015 (isolation #49) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:39 pm

VOTE: Boring

Even if she's town, she claimed and she's a liability.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1067 (isolation #50) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:19 pm

But how will everyone else know who they tr?? This way it confuses maf too

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1076 (isolation #51) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:14 pm

No chance a kiri lynch goes through. Just vote boring.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1108 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:50 am

Let's check who LLD townread. If LLD just listened to the 3 name plan I had, we wouldn't have to search.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1109 (isolation #53) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:51 am

Don't hammer yet, let's make sure everyone posts first

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1118 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:59 am

In post 1092, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1084, FakeGod wrote:
Kagami, who was
Soldier
, and
Town
Day X Doublevoter
, has been
killed
in
Night 1
.

Lady Lambdadelta, who was
Daughter
, and
Town
Compulsive Hider
, has been
killed
in
Night 1
.
Oh my god my sides someone send help

I find it funny too.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1119 (isolation #55) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:00 am

Again. No one should hammer yet till everyone talks

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1123 (isolation #56) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:01 am

Yeah he shouldn't have done that.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1125 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:10 am

Going to do another 3. I suggest others do it as well in case the daughters want to but are too scared to.

My 3 will be 3 fellow Ultimates.

Maki Harukawa
Kotoko Utsugi
Kaito Momota

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1150 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:53 am

Good idea.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1288 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:54 pm

VOTE: Ceph

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1290 (isolation #60) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:10 pm

I've already given my contribution earlier.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1292 (isolation #61) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:26 pm

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1295 (isolation #62) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:25 pm

If she is, then she should have listened to my 3 person rule. If everyone did it like I said, we wouldn't have to guess.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1296 (isolation #63) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:26 pm

If another Daughter knows who LLD was hiding behind, I think it's worth it for one of them to out just to get confirmed mafia.

Kokichi Oma · Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:30 am

Lynch him.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1328 (isolation #65) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:03 pm

Lynch him, if he's town, he's claimed already and is a liability. Just like with Boring.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1348 (isolation #66) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:04 pm

In post 1343, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Here's the thing, im starting to feel lonely, im rapidly losing trust in every single player here

This isn't new.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1353 (isolation #67) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:17 pm

I read LLD's iso. I think the 4 people she likely hid behind is Ceph, Cabd, Hinduragi or Kagami. I wish she would have just said here if she thought hiders should hide behind townreads or scumreads, cause that would make it clearer.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1378 (isolation #68) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:34 pm

Kirigiri might be town.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1386 (isolation #69) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:00 pm

Kitty, I'm not sure of your alignment yet. Why should I townread you?

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:55 am

My plan is good.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1418 (isolation #71) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:46 pm

That's okay.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1419 (isolation #72) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Cabd or Ceph is my likely votes today.

Kokichi Oma · Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:09 am

This is going nowhere.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1464 (isolation #74) » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:49 pm

Ceph or Cabd, I'll vote either but I prefer Ceph.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:02 am

I'll vote hind too, LLD townread them.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1483 (isolation #76) » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:25 pm

In post 1481, SnarkySnowman wrote:Kokichi Oma - Town I guess

Why do you think I'm town?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1486 (isolation #77) » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:53 pm

My reads right now. In no order.

Kaede Akamatsu - Not sure, leaning town.
Hinduragi - Suspicious.
Cabd - Suspicious
Nosferatu - Likely town, based on the silly argument they had yesterday. Probably won't do that as scum.
Maki Harukawa - Meh. Need more time. Leaning maybe null scum.
Kaito Momota - He's prob town.
Cephrir Yuki Takeya - Probably scum.
SnarkySnowman - No clue why people are wagoning this.
Vaxkiller - Maybe town? Not sure. His outburst yesterday was weird.
Joey_ - I don't know yet.
Kyoko Kirigiri - I think she's town based on yesterday's ending.
Kotoko Utsugi - No clue yet. Probably will read over her later.
Kokichi Oma -Town!
ActionDan- I'm not sure yet.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1497 (isolation #78) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:06 am

VOTE: Cabd

I'd rather get a confirmed not daughter. If snarky is daughter we are screwed this lynch.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1505 (isolation #79) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:13 pm

Lynch that ^

Kokichi Oma · Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:22 am

Okay, whatever. We are running out of time.

VOTE: snarky

Kokichi Oma · Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:23 am

Need 1 more to hammer. Have only 6 hours left.

Kokichi Oma · Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:23 am

Someone just hammer.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1539 (isolation #83) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:05 am

How many maf is left probably. 2?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1541 (isolation #84) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:09 am

Not gonna lie, I thought kaede was daughter too yesterday. So mafia your reads aren't bad. Someone with similar reads as me might be scum.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1542 (isolation #85) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:17 am

Also, an idea. Daughters you should check in the confirmed x2 people. Mafia won't kill them, so you don't have to worry about being killed in that way.

Kokichi Oma · Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:50 am

In post 1542, Kokichi Oma wrote:Also, an idea. Daughters you should check in the confirmed x2 people. Mafia won't kill them, so you don't have to worry about being killed in that way.

Wait, I just read what a hider does. I've been thinking about this game all wrong. I didn't know they don't die if they are targeted and hiding behind town. So this is a bad idea.

Just talk to each other who you are going to check and check anyone either of you haven't checked.

Kokichi Oma · Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:56 am

I figured since they know each other, they have a chat. Are they confirmed not to?

Kokichi Oma · Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:01 am

My plan is good if everyone did it.

Kokichi Oma · Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:47 am

VOTE: Maki

Think she could be scum here

Kokichi Oma · Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:48 am

Since its likely 1 maf left, we should probably POE it

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1626 (isolation #91) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:25 pm

I forgot she led on Snowman

UNVOTE:

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1627 (isolation #92) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:29 pm

In post 1568, Maki Harukawa wrote:What even are your reads Kokichi would love to hear em

They've changed a bit, didn't expect snow to flip scum. I'll update them in a bit

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1628 (isolation #93) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:02 pm

Updated reads. No order

Hinduragi - I changed my mind, I can see a world where he is town. Still a bit suspect of him though. His ending yesterday was good though.
Cabd - Suspicious still. Need him to maybe talk more.
Nosferatu - I'm still sure this is town. His day 1 rambling and argument like that doesn't come from scum.
Maki Harukawa - Meh. She led on snarky so she shouldn't be the lynch today, but she's good as scum. Bussing in this setup is good if you wait it out long enough for another daughter to die
Kaito Momota - He's prob town. But that's just gut read
Cephrir Yuki Takeya - Still think this could be a scum slot.
Vaxkiller - Maybe town? Not sure. His outburst D1 was weird, it wasn't like Nos' so I'm not sure.
Joey_ - I don't know yet. I heard he's good as scum, so need more time.
Kyoko Kirigiri - I think she's town based on D1 ending still. Gut read.
Kotoko Utsugi - She's likely town. When I iso'd her, her change of read on boring seemed natural. And they looked like TvS
Kokichi Oma -Town! Still!
ActionDan- Still not sure.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1635 (isolation #94) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:21 pm

In post 1631, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1602, Kyoko Kirigiri~ wrote:Something I noticed when i went to check my post count.

Kotoko has quite a remarkable amount of posts but to be perfectly honest I cannot remember much that she has done. Is this only me ?
utsugi basically invested 20+ posts discussing with me why boring was mefias and it felt like she was really trying to convince me yet being respectful of my opinion as a player. I dont feel that her thought process in those posts were faked at all, looked genuine and just plain town play to me. Also, rest of his posts are stellar imo

Agreed. Utsugi is town

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1636 (isolation #95) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:22 pm

In post 1632, Joey_ wrote:not gonna lie, i dont like this read list

Hindu should be a townread or at least someone you give much more credit than "i can see a world where hes town" Especially when youre giving townreads like candies to slots like Nos (i dont scumread him either but theres definetely a gap between him and ash)

Theres others reason i dont personnaly like, including mine. I gave enough content i should be able to be read by now

Maybe you can change my mind eventually. Who do you scumread?

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1637 (isolation #96) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:28 pm

I'd lynch in Cabd, Action, Ceph. I think.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1638 (isolation #97) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:32 pm

But who knows, maybe I could be talked into another lynch.

https://i.imgur.com/7LnPu9F.png

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1639 (isolation #98) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:32 pm

Kokichi Oma · Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:20 pm

So I read the end of Day 1. Hindu is likely town on reading it. Joey hard defended boring so much, so it's suspect but maybe too much defending to be a partner.

One thing I came away with, ActionDan started the vote on Boring, but if you read he never really pushed her. Which I find highly suspicious.

Kokichi Oma · Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:22 pm

Cabd at least voted Boring when he didn't have to. Ceph's vote on Kirigiri then seemed opportunistic.

Kokichi Oma · Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:26 pm

I think last scum is highly likely in ActionDan or Ceph. Outside chance of Cabd. I think if we can get 1 more night of clears from the daughters and if they have no duplicates, we can win easily. This is assuming 3 scum though.

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:57 am

Wince how?

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:24 am

Lets see your reads list then? I think mine is pretty accurate

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:54 am

We should relax and not quick vote.

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:55 am

I think we should think this out.

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:55 am

Vax what are your reads? You didn't answer

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:11 am

The 3 I choose this time are:

ActionDan
Ceph
Hindurashi

The rest of you should do it too. I bet daughters want to but don't want to cause no one else is.

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:27 am

Isn't it weird you have like the opposite reads of most people here? Also can you explain those reads?

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:33 am

No clue

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:33 am

Vax explain all your reads

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:02 am

Kaito, good job! Maybe you really are luminary of the stars. More people should do it too!

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:03 am

Kirigiri, what's your reads? Who do you townread and scumread

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:07 am

I'd prefer Ceph lynched over Cabd.

Kokichi Oma · Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:43 am

If you really thought that, you wouldn't be voting him.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:01 am

How did 2 people die?

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:05 am

In post 1700, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1698, Kokichi Oma wrote:How did 2 people die?
Dunno. Scum bonus for being down to one member? Or the last scum is not a double voter?

Maybe also, I looked at your day 2 more closely and you're likely town. Since you were snarky's counter wagon.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:07 am

In post 1701, Alisae wrote:
In post 1700, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1698, Kokichi Oma wrote:How did 2 people die?
Dunno. Scum bonus for being down to one member? Or the last scum is not a double voter?
WHAT IF
THERE WAS A SURPRISE VIG
THAT WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO SOMEONE
AND THAT HELLO WAS SO SCARY THAT THEY DIED.

Or maybe scum have 2 people left and each got a kill.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:07 am

In post 1703, Alisae wrote:I HAVE AN IDEA
IT MAY BE GARBAGE
BUT HEAR ME OUT
WHAT IF
WE MASSCLAIM
CONSIDERING THAT MOST SCUM ARE DEAD
AND GO FROM THERE
SINCE MASSCLAIM WHEN MOST SCUM ARE DEAD BREAKS GAMES????

We are all double voters. Nothing to mass claim.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:08 am

Also that town slip cements Alisae/Utsugi as town.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:09 am

Maybe mafia gets 2 kills after day 4 and on.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:09 am

So we need to really think about this lynch.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:12 am

I think if you're not a double voter or a daughter, now is the time to claim.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:13 am

In post 1712, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: Nos

Unvote.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:13 am

Anyone voting is a scum claim until we get everything figured out

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:16 am

In post 1716, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1712, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: Nos
Unvote.

In post 1718, Kokichi Oma wrote:Anyone voting is a scum claim until we get everything figured out

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:22 am

In post 1722, Alisae wrote:Um I'm suggesting massclaim because
A. There may actually be more then just doublevoters. I know when it comes to flavor, besides sisters, soldiers, and trolls, there's Night Watch, Mistletoe, and Riches. So granted while everyone may have doublevoting abilities, there may be more to it then that.
B. Massclaim happens to attempt to basicly lock the game down via clears and find town motivated actions as well as lies. Massclaim is NOT to determine setup spec.

Oh, is this some game? If that's the case I thought we were all just double voters and there were daughters and mafia.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:23 am

Kirigiri was obvious town after day 1. Joey was towny, I guess. So I don't know of that was a vig.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:26 am

That was a horrible shot. At least read before shooting. Kirigiri was very clearly town on day 1 ending.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:26 am

Do you have more shots?

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:27 am

What is ungated?

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:28 am

Hind can you claim

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:34 am

So mafia killed Joey? Why?

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:36 am

I'm just a day voter. I won't claim which day. I wish I got the vig role, I would have shot night 1.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:37 am

Maki is likely scum for voting so it doesn't matter

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:38 am

Scum could be 2 double voters, voting in this situation is a scum claim

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:39 am

I doubt all scum are goons. It's possible there are other roles with them too

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:40 am

In post 1756, Maki Harukawa wrote:yes because with 9 people alive scum is gonna bliz.

We've done something like this as scum together in the Vine game? Or have you suddenly forgot.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:42 am

I don't know who fake god is, so I can't assume it would be any different.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:43 am

Only claim if you're MORE than a double voter. Don't make daughters claim.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:44 am

Let's be honest. Scum is ActionDan, I don't know why we are doing all this.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:45 am

But, what if someone were to lie about their role to make things more fun? We can't have a boring end.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:47 am

Nee-heehee~ Of course! No one would do that.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:50 am

What if scum have the ability to not cause a daughter to die by visiting?

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am

You should have vigged her

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:56 am

In post 1786, Alisae wrote:Shit maki caught onto my lies
Tbh the only real read I have that I got from D3 was Hindu town (along with joey but may he rest in kitties) and Kokichi can meet the devil and his friends.

You think I'm scum? You were better off vigging me them obvious town.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:57 am

Vax are you anything more than a double voter? Not asking if you're a daughter.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:59 am

In post 1791, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1788, Kokichi Oma wrote:You should have vigged her
You're so annoying. Why don't you vote me then
Pedit: Then get vigged

You sure do like death don't you, Miss Ultimate Assassin.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:00 am

In post 1793, Alisae wrote:
In post 1789, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1786, Alisae wrote:Shit maki caught onto my lies
Tbh the only real read I have that I got from D3 was Hindu town (along with joey but may he rest in kitties) and Kokichi can meet the devil and his friends.
You think I'm scum? You were better off vigging me them obvious town.
its more of if you're scum good if you're town I think its better if you didn't talk (no offense)

Y-You're so mean...Bring back Utsugi..

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:02 am

You expect me to be power town as town? I'm flattered.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:02 am

Maybe I'm just having a bad game!

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:03 am

Or maybe it's already auto win for us and I'm making this less boring.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:04 am

Vax and Ceph where did you both go to claim.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:16 am

Vax could be scum, actually.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:17 am

In post 1806, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 1804, Kokichi Oma wrote:Vax and Ceph where did you both go to claim.
I'm willing to claim, but I think your scum, waiting until we are all on the same page, or someone townier asks.

Don't you TR hind? He asked you to claim too

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:27 am

Who do you TR?

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:38 am

Maki or Ceph please tell him to claim

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:09 am

ActionDan needs to claim whenever he gets back.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:15 am

Good timing.

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:15 am

ActionDan who do you scumread?

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:22 am

What if he flips town?

Kokichi Oma · Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:11 pm

We're waiting.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:23 am

Has Nos been prodded he hasn't spoken in a week

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:24 am

Okay, are we still waiting on any claims?

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:29 am

Nos/Gamma is still town, so doesn't matter. What's the next order of action?

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:58 am

I should do a reads list since I'm trying to POE

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:17 pm

In post 1856, Cephrir wrote:Literally flip that list upside down

So true

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:17 pm

He didn't lead. Read. He voted her when he thought it was a safe vote. He never pushed boring.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:18 pm

Alisae slot pushed Boring

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:20 pm

In post 876, ActionDan wrote:
In post 841, ActionDan wrote:When I don't feel like super sleepy I'll have to read and evaluate the exchange between Nos/Oma/kyoto. Whatever that was seemed to spawn from out of the blue.
If I had to award anything, it would be slight town points to Nos and slight scum points to Oma, only because that exchange was perpetrated by Oma on a whim and I find it overzealous to vote Nos based on matching his antics.

In post 842, Maki Harukawa wrote:Don't really think you're scum but I'm not gonna kick and scream over your lynch.
The only thing I was asking you to do and am asking now is to find a scum read and vote it. It can't be that hard. That's hardly kicking and screaming, that's just playing the game.

There's a lot wrong with 854. I've gone down the rabbit hole with Hinduragi and I've given my opinions on plenty of others too; if people don't read, analyze, and make conclusions from it that's on them not me. What does "His general Obscurity points more to scummy than towny." Does that have to do with my reads not being attuned to the general consensus? God forbid I have independent thoughts. Again with everyone's constant refrain of "I like the wagon composition". It truly makes me sick. The only difference here is that Boring provided reasons to go with it but to me it'd be better if those didn't exist at all.

In post 859, Kotoko Utsugi wrote:Yuki is scum lurkaderping

In post 860, Kotoko Utsugi wrote:I know I voted for the exact same reason boring did but I fee like boring did it because no one questioned mine
Allow me to continue to question yours again and again. You have a scum read that you aren't voting over a null read. Consolidation be damned.

Out of the 5 people currently voting me only
one
has an actual scum read on me. I don't really know where Cabd stands but I know it stands to reason he isn't reading closely since he voted me (in which despite claiming to proxy his vote to LLD hers wasn't yet on me).

At least for the Rompa Anime Avatars, think what you will, but they are at the least voting their stated scum reads. They are playing mafia. What I see above isn't it, and I can tell you it's frustrating to no end.

And to respond to Joey in particular you have no right to quote my wall and tell me I'm delusional about trying to push my scum read and not read it when, even were the fact that I understood that survival was on the line explicitly in that very post, pushing scum reads is correct play.

As well as the opportunity cost remark, like wow. You literally value anything I'd have to say less than a lurker lurking when you don't even think I'll flip scum.

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Kagami I don't know if Hindu would champion it. It's odd yes, I've thought that, that surely there'd be a better scum strategy and both of them would be start enough to know what that might be and how risky this one would be. I've tended to rationalize that that's WIFOM and try not to let that doubt cloud my judgement. I've been starting to waver a bit in regards to my scum read on LLD. Among other things I'm surprised she hasn't voted me yet. And I'm really spooked by the phenomenon that's occurring above.

So I'm going to vote Boring and see where the chips fall. I honestly could vote Cabd as well, since feels and reals together inform me that's where I'd feel a scum hides.

VOTE: Boring

For the record Hindu what are your thoughts on Kaito/Boring/Kokichi at the moment?

In post 878, ActionDan wrote:
In post 864, Kagami wrote:If there's reason to be concerned about AD, it's that he's leaning heavily on arguments that are objectively correct.
You'd be surprised what I can do when I actually bother to read a thread for understanding and detail. I know I have a habit of doing jack-all usually though, so I'll forgive you for that

After voting boring, this was his only post.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:24 pm

Listen mafia is in ActionDan/Vax. There is a very small outside chance it's Hindu but I think it's not.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:30 pm

Hinduragi - Town lean. Small chance he's scum
Gamma - Town
Kaito Momota - Townish
Cephrir - Town
Vaxkiller - Scummy
Alisae - Town
Kokichi Oma - Town
ActionDan - Scummy
Maki Harukawa - Townish only because I believe her anti town role could be a thing

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:27 pm

Ceph is town, and I say don't out the daughters. I say we lynch ActionDan and then vig shoot Vax if Alisae still has shots.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:30 pm

Hindu can you full claim your role, as in what it is? You just know the daughters and that's it?

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:31 pm

I've been telling you guys, it's been auto win. I just wanted to make things interesting by keeping all this up.

Nee-heehee~

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:35 pm

In post 1903, Maki Harukawa wrote:RED YOU'RE A FUCKING DUMBASS MY CLAIM WAS AMAZING
no wifom no n3 clear

You were obvious daughter, Mafia has been trying to kill your townreads the last 2 nights.

But, at least you had the Ultimate Supreme Leader to trick them!

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:39 pm

N1 I checked Nos/Gamma slot
N2 I checked Kotoko/Alisae slot
N3 I checked Ceph

Gamma - Town
Kaito Momota - Town
Cephrir - Town
Alisae - Town
Kokichi Oma - Daughter
Maki Harukawa - Daughter

Which leeeeaves:

Hinduragi - Unclear
Vaxkiller - Scummy
ActionDan - Scummy

With Alisae having a vig shot, she shoots VaxKiller after we lynch ActionDan and if the game is still going, we lynch Hinduragi! Like I said a bit earlier.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:40 pm

I checked null players, it's the best to do as hiders. And actually do a list, so people know what you're doing. I figured Kaito would be Maki's N1 check (So that's why N2 my list was Maki/Kaito/Kotoko so she would know who I'd check)

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:41 pm

Also I checked whichever name I put in the middle each time, but I think no one caught that.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:41 pm

Don't lynch yet. Still something that needs to be done.

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:42 pm

Alisae, do you have any stipulations to your vig shot?

Hind is there anything else you need to tell us?

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:45 pm

Also:

Maki hides in: Gamma or Kaito

I hide in: Cephrir or Alisae

That way it's guaranteed one of us will be alive at the very least.

Maki can you confirm that?

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:59 pm

I'm fine getting Vax.

Also what are the odds mafia has a redirector that can redirect kills? Does this seem balanced? 3 daughters, a vig and someone who knows the 3 daughters? And mafia goons?

Kokichi Oma · Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:02 pm

VOTE: Vax

Hopefully we can avenge the Ultimate Detective.

Hindurashi should check in before we hammer. In case he has anything left to claim/say.

Kokichi Oma · Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:00 am

So she hid behind Dan. Wish she coded it better.

Good game to all!

Kokichi Oma · Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:07 am

Yeah, Kagami was the only one to pick a smart day

Kokichi Oma · Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:27 am

/pre in for next FG game

Kokichi Oma · Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:06 pm

In post 2003, Alisae wrote:I did my job