Mini Normal 1969 - Blessed Mafia (Werewolf Win)

Post Post #1687 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:18 pm

In post 1631, Assemblerotws wrote:
The Werewolf team of Flavor Leaf, Tchill13, and Aristophanes has won!

In which the scumteam wins by lynching two of the most competent players in the game, nightkilling THE most competent player in the game (UnaBombaH), and strategically avoiding nightkilling the most competent player immune to the nightkill in the game.

Can't really say the outcome of the game is surprising when literally every player who could see through the bullshit except for Something_Smart was dead before D3.

Incidentally, that was more or less my predicted path--I thought the game would be a close one where both sides had equal chances of winning, but I also either said or thought without saying that it did depend on the lifespan of the competent town players and that if the competent town players died too early then the game would have the obvious result.

I wouldn't place the blame for the scum win on an incompetent town as a result--after all...all the town's competent players (save the one who was immune) were taken out early so naturally the surviving town were...less-so. I wouldn't cheapen the win of the scum, either, because it legit takes some degree of skill to take all those competent town players out of the equation. So, scum played well by removing those that could see through them.

Post Post #1696 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:39 pm

In post 1636, Espeonage wrote:It was a really good setup though. Well thought out by assemble.

The original was even more insane than what we got. It was Miller/Nurse/Deputy/Doctor Enabler/Miller2/Universal Backup/Ascetic/Treestump/Compulsive Loud Fruit Vendor/Voyeur vs. Doctor Encryptor/JOAT(Rolestopper/Roleblocker).

We had multiple reasons that needed to be nixed tho.

Post Post #1697 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:40 pm

In post 1666, northsidegal wrote:i'm mad that i missed the chance to replace in – i had a lot of the game figured out while i was following along!

I said in the PT that if you came in, scum were fucked if it's any consolidation.

Post Post #1699 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:43 pm

In post 1691, JaydragonKing wrote:I was not considered "competent" by madam Mastina.

Well.
You voted town in mylo rather than triple-quadruple-lying-caught-gambiting-scum, so.

Post Post #1701 (isolation #4) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:46 pm

In post 1700, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1699, mastina wrote:triple-quadruple-lying-caught-gambiting-scum
Which one of us was this exactly?

All three of you?

Post Post #1702 (isolation #5) » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:47 pm

I mean, Boonskiies was the mastermind with Tchill his protege in terms of insanity with you mostly along for the ride, but since you WENT along for the ride, the statement applies to the whole team.

Post Post #1766 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:04 pm

In post 1757, Aristophanes wrote:My Wiki is about a year behind in updates and probably a hundred games or so...
I really need to get on that!

In post 1758, northsidegal wrote:Let me know if you figure out how the wiki stuff works, i just started my own page recently.

Well my wiki might be slightly out of date (I need to update a few things here and there), buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...I did do a fair amount of research on formatting and whatnot.

I even wrote my own code for tables which includes everything I personally would want! (Unfortunately because it includes everything I personally would want it's a little bit customized to me; I built in MSWA to the code for instance, and the code also has names which might be difficult to navigate if you're not me, butstill. It doesn't take much work once you know where to look and how to see how things came to be. It's mostly just knowing how to navigate templates. Just about the only thing I haven't figured out how to do is the trick which Tierce uses for her wiki page in spite of me scouring the code there like three or four times looking for how she managed to do what she did.)

Post Post #1767 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:30 pm

For the record, this is my wiki code:

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{{Mastina Gametable
|name= (GAME NAME HERE)
|url= (LOOK AT THE URL FOR A THREAD. SEE THE t= PART? THE NUMBER AFTER THAT IS WHAT YOU PLACE HERE. FOR INSTANCE, THIS THREAD IS 74154.)
|gametype= (TYPE OF GAME HERE: Large Theme/Mini Theme/Mini Normal/Large Normal/Micro/Blitz/Open/Marathon)
|setup=   (THIS IS LEFT BLANK UNLESS IT IS AN EXISTING OPEN SETUP, IN WHICH CASE YOU PUT THE SETUP NAME, E.G. Matrix6)
|mod=      [[GAME MODERATOR]] (ALTERNATIVE CODE, IN CASE THE GAME MODERATOR DOES NOT HAVE A WIKI PAGE: {{U|GAME MODERATOR}} (THE   IS FOR USERNAMES WHO HAVE SPACES IN THEIR NAME))
|faction= (PLACE FACTION HERE (Town/Mafia/3p))
|role=[[ROLE|ANY MODIFICATION TO ROLE NAME]] (FOR INSTANCE [[COP|SEER]] WOULD LINK TO THE PAGE ON COPS IF YOUR COP PM WERE NAMED A SEER, YET WOULD DISPLAY SEER AS THE NAME)
|entry=Started (UNLESS I REPLACED IN, WHICH WOULD BE "Replaced {{U|NAME OF PLAYER I REPLACED}} on [[Day|D*number*]]" OR "Replaced {{U|NAME OF PLAYER I REPLACED}} on [[Night|N*number*]]"
|fate=(WHAT HAPPENED TO ME THE GAME. I WRITE THIS AS: "[[Nightkill|Killed]] N*number*", "[[Lynch|Lynched]] D*number*", "[[Endgame|Endgamed]] D*number*", "Survived D/N*number*", OR "Replaced D/N*number*")
|GameLength= (HOW MANY DAY PHASES THERE WERE IN THE GAME)
|NGameLength= (HOW MANY NIGHT PHASES THERE WERE IN THE GAME)
|lifespan= (HOW MANY DAYS I WAS ALIVE)
|nlifespan= (HOW MANY NIGHTS I WAS ALIVE)
|result=   (THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME FOR MY ALIGNMENT: Win, Loss, Draw, N/A)
|outcome= (THIS DISPLAYS WHICH FACTION WON THE GAME. "<font color="red">{{colorlink|990000|Mafia|NAME OF MAFIA FACTION}} Victory</font>" FOR MAFIA, <font color="green">{{colorlink|009900|Town|NAME OF TOWN FACTION}} Victory</font>" FOR TOWN. I HAVEN'T INVENTED OTHER OUTCOMES YET BUT IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO.)
|swa = (THIS IS MY SCUM WAGON AVERAGE STAT THAT I INVENTED. IF YOU USE IT, YOU GET TWO POINTS FOR BEING ON A SCUM LYNCH, ONE POINT FOR BEING OFF A TOWN MISLYNCH, LOSE ONE POINT FOR BEING OFF A SCUM LYNCH, AND LOSE TWO POINTS IF YOU ARE ON A MISLYNCH AND/OR ARE THE MISLYNCH; YOU ADD YOUR POINTS UP TO CREATE THE FIRST NUMBER. THE SECOND NUMBER IS THE BEST POSSIBLE SCORE FOR THAT GAME WITH THE FLIPS UNCHANGED. THE THIRD NUMBER IS THE THEORETICAL BEST SCORE--LYNCHING SCUM EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU CAN PROBABLY IGNORE IT.)
|IDnumber= (THIS IS THE NUMBER OF THE GAME. YOUR VERY FIRST GAME WOULD BE '1', THE GAME IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING WOULD BE '2', AND SO ON.)
|StartDate= (THE DATE YOU RECEIVED YOUR ROLE PM. IT USES THREE LETTERS FROM THE DAY OF THE WEEK, THREE LETTERS FROM THE MONTH, THE DAY OF THE MONTH, AND THE YEAR, E.G. Sun Feb 4, 2018)
|EndDate= (THE DATE YOU STOPPED BEING A PLAYER IN THE GAME, BE IT REPLACING OUT, NIGHTKILL, LYNCH, OR END OF GAME, SAME AS ABOVE)
|TotalTime= (THE LENGTH OF TIME BETWEEN THE TWO DATES LISTED ABOVE)
|Rating= (YOUR PERSONAL RATING OF YOUR PERFORMANCE IN THE GAME)
|gquote= ''(A QUOTE FROM THE GAME WHICH YOU FEEL IS MEMORABLE)''
|notes=    (A DESCRIPTION OF ANYTHING IMPORTANT IN THE GAME, NOTING THINGS LIKE WHAT YOU WERE, WHAT YOU DID, AND SIMILAR THINGS, WHERE YOU SUMMARIZE THE GAME AND GIVE IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS.)}}

Spoiler: Example Game

You can see what it looks like on my wiki page.

Post Post #1768 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:52 pm

Before I created that by the way (I basically copy-pasted an existing game table template code then modified it to suit my purposes), I used a different format:

Spoiler: Old Formatting

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{| style="height:50px" border="1"
|- style="height:25px; background:#CCCCCC" 
|+ {{Game|GAME MODERATOR|GAME NAME|GAME URL, WHICH IS AGAIN THE FIVE-DIGIT NUMBER WHICH FOR THIS THREAD IS 74154|}}
!width="250"|[[Game Thread|Game]]
!width="135"|[[Game Moderator|Moderator]]
!width="175"|[[Role PM|Role]]
!width="125"|Outcome
!width="125"|Results
!width="70"|ID#
|-
| [https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=(GAMEURL) GAME NAME] || [[GAME MODERATOR]] ||style="background:green" | [[ROLE|ROLE NAME]] || (MY FATE THAT GAME. I WRITE THIS AS: "[[Nightkill|Killed]] N*number*", "[[Lynch|Lynched]] D*number*", "[[Endgame|Endgamed]] D*number*", "Survived D/N*number*", OR "Replaced D/N*number*") || style="background:(COLOR, LOWERCASE)" (CRIMSON FOR A LOSS, GREEN FOR A WIN, GRAY FOR A DRAW, ETC.) | (WHO WON THE GAME. I WRITE THIS AS "<font color="red">[[Mafia|MAFIA FACTION NAME]] Victory</font>" OR "<font color="green">[[Town|TOWN FACTION NAME]] Victory</font>"|| (THIS IS THE NUMBER OF THE GAME. YOUR VERY FIRST GAME WOULD BE '1', THE GAME IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING WOULD BE '2', AND SO ON.)
|-
|'''Start/End Date/Time/Present:'''|| (THE DATE YOU RECEIVED YOUR ROLE PM. IT USES THREE LETTERS FROM THE DAY OF THE WEEK, THREE LETTERS FROM THE MONTH, THE DAY OF THE MONTH, AND THE YEAR, E.G. Sun Feb 4, 2018) || (THE DATE YOU STOPPED BEING A PLAYER IN THE GAME, BE IT REPLACING OUT, NIGHTKILL, LYNCH, OR END OF GAME, SAME AS TO THE LEFT) || (THE LENGTH OF TIME BETWEEN THE TWO DATES LISTED TO THE LEFT) || (NUMBER OF DAYS I LIVED)/(NUMBER OF TOTAL DAYS IN THE GAME); (NUMBER OF NIGHTS I LIVED)/(NUMBER OF NIGHTS IN THE GAME) || (THIS IS THE RATING FOR THE GAME, MANUALLY DONE BY USING '[[File:UNstar.png]]'
 FOR A FULL STAR AND '[[File:UNhalfstar.png]]' FOR A HALF STAR.)
|- 
|colspan="8" |  <center>''(A QUOTE FROM THE GAME WHICH YOU FEEL IS MEMORABLE)''</center>
|-
| colspan="8" |  (A DESCRIPTION OF ANYTHING IMPORTANT IN THE GAME, NOTING THINGS LIKE WHAT YOU WERE, WHAT YOU DID, AND SIMILAR THINGS, WHERE YOU SUMMARIZE THE GAME AND GIVE IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS.)
|}

Spoiler: Example Game, Old formatting

You can see what THAT looks like right here. (I overall thought my game table code was more neat and user-friendly overall which is why I went with it.)

...It's a little more complicated as you can tell. Much easier to fuck up, too.

It took me a long time and a lot of experimenting and a lot of searching the wiki to find neat little things. The Template:Game was a huge inspiration and I'm actually a little bit saddened that my current game table doesn't make use of the code even though it makes use of bits of it because I ended up sacrificing a small portion of its functionality when I couldn't figure out how to make it work. (That being, Template:Game allows for a separation between the game name and game title, e.g. separating "Mini Normal 1969" from "Blessed Mafia"; my Mastina Gametable code forces me to lump them in together as one because while I mostly understood the code behind the Template:Game code, I couldn't figure out how to import it with compatibility into the Gametable code I used.)