2017 NFL Football

[BROseidon]

Like yeah Brady is tough and a great QB but him going for a reception on a trick play had a lot of downside because it's Brady

[drealmerz7]

he is not tough, he's one of the wussiest NFL players if not THE wussiest

every time he gets touched he looks like he's going to cry

[T-Bone]

He's tough and athletic....and the perception that he isn't a threat to run is precisely why the trick play almost worked. No one was within 10 yards of him. Like, you couldn't run that play with Cam on the field.

[Papa Zito]

he is not tough, he's one of the wussiest NFL players if not THE wussiest

every time he gets touched he looks like he's going to cry

uh

as much as I want to see the dude gone this is just not true

[BROseidon]

He's tough and athletic....and the perception that he isn't a threat to run is precisely why the trick play almost worked. No one was within 10 yards of him. Like, you couldn't run that play with Cam on the field.

I would not be surprised if Cam can break coverage tbh

[T-Bone]

Stop crying Brady haters, he's the best QB of all time.

#dealwithit

[drealmerz7]

no, he's really not, you can't be great if you're a cheater, it's simple

you are worthless piece of shit if you're a cheater, and that is what he is

he's a whiner, a sore loser, a manipulative lair, a terrible parent - not any sort of example to look up to

I despise people with no or little moral standards

if you consider that sort of person great, you've got problems, imo

if you think all that matters is his ability, then you might as well support / exalt Harvey Weinstein because he's good at executive producing and has produced great movies

[T-Bone]

Yeah "cheater" lol

I get it. It is much easier to hate greatness than embrace it. Peyton had similar problems for the longest time. People hated how smug he was, despite accomplishing very little (this was mid-career, when he was physically one of the best, but wasn't winning titles).

But sorry, he's the best. You don't have to like him. Just gotta live with it.

[drealmerz7]

it has nothing to do with hating greatness and that you must resort to that sort of fallacy just shows how misguided you are about it all

he's shit, my guess is you can't accept it because you have low moral standards as well and to do so would be to acknowledge your own lack of character

[T-Bone]

I'm claiming the guy with 5 Championships and a whole host of NFL records and accolades is the greatest...and I'm misguided and need to "accept the truth"? What? That doesn't make sense.

If you want to dispute his character, fine. You cannot dispute the awards, records, and accolades. Those are NOT open to interpretation or moral judgment.

[drealmerz7]

I'm disputing "greatness"

you can't be one of the greats if you got there by cheating, stats are meaningless and get thrown out the window

you shouldn't be considered great if you are a piece of shit human

that people think he's great is a delusion

[Papa Zito]

All Peyton did was beat up on expansion teams his whole career. He also has an incredibly punchable face.

[T-Bone]

If stats are meaningless...than why play the game in the first place? "Stats are meaningless" is code for "I don't have a sound football argument".

Make the argument that he is a bad person, fine. Don't embarrass yourself by arguing he's not a good football player.

[drealmerz7]

stats are meaningless when you cheat, what is so hard to understand about that?

here's a simplified example maybe you can grasp:

I hit a golf ball 500 yards, isn't that great?!!!! (but it was weighted differently than a standard golf ball)

no, it's not great, it would be if you hadn't cheated, but now it's meaningless

[T-Bone]

There is no evidence that he has cheated...and thinking that any sort of cheating could lead to the career he has had is stupid. It shows me you really don't understand football. You just don't like him for whatever reason. And that's fine. Hate him off the field. On the field, he's the best QB to ever play.

[Nero Cain]

All Peyton did was beat up on expansion teams his whole career. He also has an incredibly punchable face.

TBF, I do miss his sour grapes face after a bad pass etc.

[Papa Zito]

Sad Peyton Manning Face was always a treat for sure.

[T-Bone]

I didn't like Peyton much when he played, but as the nationwide guy I find him hilarious.

[Nero Cain]

T-Bone winning is not very surprising.

[drealmerz7]

ahhh, now suddenly it's "there's no evidence" (there's no evidence against Harvey Weinstein either) - I understand football very well, that's just an empty phrase for you to put out there to disregard my position

I told you why I despise him

Brett Favre is the best QB ever, btw

[T-Bone]

Is he doing steroids? Because that is about the only form of cheating he could do that you could maybe explain anyway his success on the field, like people do with McGuire and Bonds in Baseball.

If you're gonna tell me he deflated his way to success GTFO of here.

[Papa Zito]

but his phone

[T-Bone]

lol

[Killthestory]

drealmz is the angriest person ive ever seen at someone who he doesnt even know lol.

also tom bradys taken some monster hits and bounced right back up. tough and good quarterback.

[drealmerz7]

I just hate when pieces of shit get exalted

when Tom Brady is mentioned the thoughts around it should be "eh, he has great stats but he also cheated and is a piece of shit so who cares and why is he being mentioned? let's talk about someone worth talking about"