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Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 am

I’m VT.

Hawk · Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 am

In post 2073, Chara wrote:by a combination of my reads and what i know, i think Gamma is the last scum. i could be wrong, which is why Flavor needs to claim.

I'm confused because I dont understand how Flavor claiming first changes your claim if you think gamma is the last scum.

If you thought flavor was last scum I would understand but with it being Gamma I dont see what agency you gain by claiming last that isn't scummy intent... It's like you're worried that your gambit isn't going to work.

pedit: That makes me more confused as to why you can't just claim...

Chara · Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:15 am

it doesn't change my claim, i didn't expect Flavor to say anything other than VT.
it's just caution.

sheepsaysmeep · Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:16 am

flavor lynch today thank

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:16 am

I’ll be back in a couple hours. Wait before any decisions please. I have some things I want to post.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:17 am

Am I allowed to talk about completed Team Mafia games?

Chara · Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:17 am

Gamma is my strongest scumread, scummy play, etc. etc, and he's not towntelling in the way i'm used to at all.

Chara · Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:18 am

In post 2079, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’ll be back in a couple hours. Wait before any decisions please. I have some things I want to post.

Chara · Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:18 am

anyway, claims are all out, unfortunately it's exactly what i expected.

Hawk · Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:20 am

Okay, so what's your PR?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:22 am

What do you refer to as my "town meta"?

Chara · Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:23 am

i'm a role cop.
night 1 - Hawk is a miller, obviously.
night 2 - fitz is vanilla.
night 3 - Two is vanilla.
night 4 - sheep is vanilla.

i probably didn't use this in the best way i could have, but blame me in post for that. i'm still annoyed about lynching Fitz and i don't know enough about setup spec where i can confidently say the last scum is a goon or not.

Chara · Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:24 am

In post 2080, Flavor Leaf wrote:Am I allowed to talk about completed Team Mafia games?

unfortunately not.

Chara · Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:26 am

i really should have just copped Gamma. i'm like 95% sure my answer would be "neighbourizer" which he is proven to be, but maybe i could have gotten lucky and gotten a no result which would prove he hadn't claimed his ascetic, or something.
i thought of that just now. blah.
or maybe i wouldn't have gotten anything.

sheepsaysmeep · Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:29 am

cop and rolecop?

Hawk · Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:30 am

Why did you lynch Fitz?

VOTE: Chara

He said rolecop...

Chara · Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:31 am

sheep: yes.
i assume because i can conftown the miller. ascetic scum makes sense considering their roleblocker so i don't know why i didn't consider that after he flipped, but hindsight is 20/20.

Chara · Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:32 am

In post 2090, Hawk wrote:Why did you lynch Fitz?

VOTE: Chara

He said rolecop...

you do realize i could have easily confirmed a different VT or claimed i checked Frogger, right?

being vanilla doesn't mean he couldn't be goon scum.

Chara · Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:34 am

i considered outing and stopping the lynch, but it would have gotten me nightkilled and i wouldn't have gotten more reports. (not that any but the first were useful) not to mention i didn't have confirmation of his alignment one way or the other.

and i was scumreading him.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:35 am

In post 2091, Chara wrote:sheep: yes.
i assume because i can conftown the miller. ascetic scum makes sense considering their roleblocker so i don't know why i didn't consider that after he flipped, but hindsight is 20/20.

Not really? That means scum have two ways to ensure actions against them should fail, and with the amount of town power (which if you are right is ONLY cop and rolecop) it seems unlikely mafia would even have full RB, much less that and an ascetic goon. It seems like too much action denial for what is present.

Chara · Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:38 am

hm, i don't really know how to balance normals.
maybe it feels less strong because the roleblocker is dead now.

Chara · Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:39 am

wait, a full roleblocker makes sense with just giving town a cop, let alone giving us a cop and roleblocker.
perhaps an ascetic would be pushing it. it's all conjecture to begin with.

Hawk · Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:41 am

In post 2092, Chara wrote:
In post 2090, Hawk wrote:Why did you lynch Fitz?

VOTE: Chara

He said rolecop...
you do realize i could have easily confirmed a different VT or claimed i checked Frogger, right?

being vanilla doesn't mean he couldn't be goon scum.

I understand that but you still voted him. You also if I recall didn't start on fitz that day. Why lynch fitz if you got a vanilla and didn't feel the need to start there??

pedit: Hold on I don't believe you.

Chara · Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:43 am

ask Frogger why i lynched fitz.

don't believe what?

Chara · Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:45 am

i seriously considered fakeclaiming a vanilla result on frogger or something to avoid this exact situation. i know i lynched fitz and i know it was a mistake.