Micro 780: SHENANIGANS

[JaydragonKing]

Woah. Bins-chan is a poet.

[JaydragonKing]

I'm not falling for that shit again.

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: James

Found the Lyncher guys.

[JaydragonKing]

If we do that we're bound to have a better chance to Lynch the Jester, who HAS to CC regardless.

[JaydragonKing]

Same difference.

[JaydragonKing]

You should also move your vote off yourself so the Lyncher and Jester don't get the smart idea to quickhammer you.

And oh shit, Dino's in the house!

[JaydragonKing]

So we'll basically have a 1\3 chance of hanging a Yakuza, Lyncher, or a Jester?

I'm down with that.

[JaydragonKing]

You disagreed with him. This is a movement of power for the role of 'Leader' of the town.

A Political Coup. My favorite.

[JaydragonKing]

Wait a second, town has three people they're against three people...

Legit, the Lyncher, Yakuza, or the Jester have to help with the Lynch.

[JaydragonKing]

So the Jester just wants to be Lynched, and the Lyncher's target can be ANYONE. I guess that's what we have to deal with.

Yazuza just being the yakuza and all that.

[JaydragonKing]

Um, that's kinda the Jester's thing, Vax. So that's a No.

[JaydragonKing]

Lynching the Lyncher basically gives Mafia the night to choose who to convert. It also leaves the Jester alive for round two. Not the best option.

[JaydragonKing]

Technically if the yakuza gets someone but they go into the PGO they still lose since the person they tried to convert died.

[JaydragonKing]

What if we actually just let the PGO claim and EVERYONE go into him? He'll be decrypted so he won't change into mafiagoon and whoever gets targeted by the Yazuza also dies?

[JaydragonKing]

Yeah, so they lose. Unless the Doctor is stupid and heals the Yazuka, of course.

[JaydragonKing]

Oh. I thought they HAD to convert. My bad.

[JaydragonKing]

Jay is not town, neither is Math

So says the Jester claim.

[JaydragonKing]

Maybe the Lyncher will help town afterward?

[JaydragonKing]

It said that if mafia is hung first,game ends when the Lyncher dies. So if the other two die, Jester loses.

[JaydragonKing]

How does one scum hunt when three people are separately scummy for different reasons?

[JaydragonKing]

I feel like NotMaf is doing Mind games with me and Dino again, except this time I know Dino isn't his scum partner leading me on

Dangit NotMaf why do you got to be so complicated yet simple?

[JaydragonKing]

How does one scum hunt when three people are separately scummy for different reasons?

This feels scummy to me. I don't know why because I don't know my way around the game well yet, but the logic seems off.

It's a genuine concern, because I'm not exactly used to third party interference. Ari's Jester game was absolute zero and my other one has nothing to do with this kind of scum hunt.

I'm just saying that if we find a scum and it's actually Jester, that means they tricked the yakuza, the Lyncher, or they self-hammer. The fact of the matter is we gotta not let something stupid happen by making a shitty vote.

[JaydragonKing]

Drealm, if they both are scum, why the heck would they work together to get me? the Mafia won't want the Lyncher to instantly win the game. My guess is that one of them is town and one of them is scum.

[JaydragonKing]

but then the Jester runs the risk of being the one shot by the mafia that night. Seems strange.

[JaydragonKing]

because the Mafia don't want to lose because they left the Jester alive in the 3p with a townie.

[JaydragonKing]

you have to play mind games when you play Mafia. let me ask you then. Do you trust James more or Dino?

[JaydragonKing]

Oh Dino is here.

Help me Dino. I got literally nothing elsa to do at the moment.

[JaydragonKing]

so you think Vax is evil and NOT the Jester then?

[JaydragonKing]

Again, so says the Jester claim.

[JaydragonKing]

careful Dino. with three slots of townies and "You" being one of course, saying he's a town limits you saying that again to anyone else.

[JaydragonKing]

I don't think James is the Jester at this point though.

[JaydragonKing]

Don't know. but it's not him.

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: James

Found the Lyncher guys.

I was half-asleep, just waking you when I posted that, but it may have held more weight then i thought.

[JaydragonKing]

If they're ballsy, sure.

[JaydragonKing]

You can lock someone in as your second town, but I still think you gotta convince everyone elsa that your also a townie.

[JaydragonKing]

but what you just said may very well be a lie!

[JaydragonKing]

that still doesn't help with the other four guys around Vax.

[JaydragonKing]

oh come the heck on, Dino!

[JaydragonKing]

Worst case scenario is if the Lyncher has the Jester as their target, but right now that doesn't seem as likely.

[JaydragonKing]

James hasn't talked in three hours. Obviously evil.

[JaydragonKing]

Oh, happy scum day by the way Drealm.

[JaydragonKing]

So back to the topic at hand...

[JaydragonKing]

I was waiting to see NotMaf or Dino comment on that but... Why, Drealm?

[JaydragonKing]

So we can be an asshole in that situation and hang the Lyncher to not even let him win with them? Man that's brutal.

[JaydragonKing]

I said that under the assumption we hang the yakuza today.

[JaydragonKing]

Drealm, the Lyncher gets to become a Neutral Survivor who only has to live to win if their target dies Night one. They can literally wait it out. Did you forget the accusations that Dino is the Jester?

And another thing Dino does- he told me this himself -He always has a good reason to scumread someone. He thinks James is the Lyncher so he wants him gone. He's also probably betting on getting hung day 2 or being converted by the Yakuza.

I don't think hanging Dino in this situation is the right play.

[JaydragonKing]

At this point yeah. And while he's calling James the Lyncher, and I called him the Lyncher twice... I know for a fact I can trust Dino in finding the other scum for me, even if he is one himself.

So James is Lyncher/Yakuza faking Lyncher.

[JaydragonKing]

I never acknowledged that James could be Yazuka who's faking Jester who is also faking Lyncher. But then that gets complicated.

This is gonna be a long 8 days.

[JaydragonKing]

Dino doesn't trust me but he trusts James less appearantly. I've done the same thing in other games.

I'd also like evidence of why I'm the Jester, please.

[JaydragonKing]

what is your issue with having a jester read on you, anyway?

that I don't want to lynch you and you want lynched, eh?

That is an incriminating and leading question. That'll never hold in court.

[JaydragonKing]

Giving you further development is only gonna fuck me over in the long run because anymore and I might accidentally give my role away.

[JaydragonKing]

Ba da ba ba buhhhhhh.....

[JaydragonKing]

We kinda do need other people talking. especially since one of you Has to be town.

[JaydragonKing]

He was pretty hype when Sheep was in it I think.

Maybe he just hates the fact that he's town in this setup?

[JaydragonKing]

Well at this point I doubt Dino Drealm Elsa || Vax James NotMaf is town vs scum.

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: Mathdino

Hate to break it to ya but your vote was already there.

[JaydragonKing]

Okay my Open game run by Dino ended and my Large theme is dead in water (No offense Drealm).

Someone give me an action. Plz.

[JaydragonKing]

I'm in agrrement on the scum/town setup put forth by dreal. While I haven't posted much, (too busy to make my usual walls), I have been trying to keep up an this seems reasonable.

That is the biggest "sheep" tactic I've ever seen here.

[JaydragonKing]

No benefit.

[JaydragonKing]

You Just agreed with Drealm, so that means you think I'm scum. I accept that you think that, but disagree with the notion.

[JaydragonKing]

Because while sheeping is a valid tactic for town, I think your wrong in thinking Dino's Target is me. Or even James. He said it himself what he would do as Lyncher, correct? He'd be jumping target to Target.

I think his target is Not_Mafia.

[JaydragonKing]

Because Not_Mafia is going to get himself hung and Dino knows it. Heck, I know it to. He doesn't even need to try to Lynch NotMaf at all. I'd be doing the same thing and waiting until L-1 before hammering NM.

[JaydragonKing]

Ehh. I'm honestly leaning PGO if I'm honest. Not visiting him tonight for sure.

[JaydragonKing]

Because I think he guessed right that James is the Yakuza. And I'm not winning anytime soon so it's an alternative I like.

[JaydragonKing]

Because I'm thinking he is right as well. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm 100% sure James is Yakuza and 80% that Dino is Lyncher.

[JaydragonKing]

As 100% sure as you are that he's the Lyncher.

[JaydragonKing]

Well now that's two votes on him.

I'm going to hammer anyone immediately if they get to L-1 by the way.

[JaydragonKing]

No sense in subtlety about it.

You should probably claim if you don't want to die.

[JaydragonKing]

How about this then?

I'm Jester/Deprogrammor/Yakuza going to Vax tonight.

[JaydragonKing]

Elsa Jay isn't evil at heart, just chaotic Neutral.

[JaydragonKing]

So Dino is confirmed not Deprogrammer, that leaves two town roles for him to claim.

And I am Deprogrammer until otherwise Counterclaimed.

[JaydragonKing]

I did say ANYONE who gets to L-1, Vax. Well except James since my vote is already on him so I can't hammer him.

[JaydragonKing]

I'm inclined to believe Dino, which also destroys his credibility. But hey, when Dino's right, he's right.

[JaydragonKing]

Either way, whichever of you is scum should be willing to work with me to lynch the other scum, James.

Your the one who wants me to help you Lynch James as Yakuza/Lyncher tho. You asked for my help.

[JaydragonKing]

Dino is probably one of the three townies, now that I think harder about it.

[JaydragonKing]

I said it twice now. When he's at L-1 I'll vote him for the lulz. He's not there yet.

[JaydragonKing]

I'm not the jester tho. I'm Yakuza faking Jester.

[JaydragonKing]

I'd still rather Lynch the Yakuza/Lyncher today to be honest. Just vote James already. You guys should realize what Dino really is. He's given enough hints about it.

[JaydragonKing]

I'm all up for a mass claim. Still the Deprogrammer.

[JaydragonKing]

I think he's not voting you because you being alive is his only hope to achieve his wincon, because he has you as his lyncher and he's jester

Your sounding like a conspiracy nut. Dino's a townie and he's right. I sure as hell ain't giving James an easy victory. If I can't win neither can he.

[JaydragonKing]

Have you taken into account that Im the Lyncher and DINO's the Jester?

[JaydragonKing]

Glad I can make you both laugh. Now Lynch me.

[JaydragonKing]

No, he wins with you guys if he hangs the Mafia. You realize that, right? Only me and James lose in that situation.

[JaydragonKing]

Huh. Dino wants me to murder him. That's a first.

[JaydragonKing]

You know this can all be solved with James deciding to finally claim and it'll show he's Yakuza when Drealm or Vax CC's him

[JaydragonKing]

let's not listen to the practically claimed jester

A Broken Clock is right twice a Day, you know.

[JaydragonKing]

but when there's a working clock right next to the broken clock, you shouldn't really be looking at the broken clock

Well if there's a Working Clock next to the Broken Clock, your clearly pretty stupid if you kept both around in the same area.

[JaydragonKing]

Oh. It's James's House. Vote him for being stupid about his clock placement.

[JaydragonKing]

Have you taken into account that Im the Lyncher and DINO's the Jester?

This was the least Jestery thing I've done.

[JaydragonKing]

I've been trying to help you guys by pointing out the Lyncher in the very first page. The fact you guys haven't gotten rid of him is beyond me.

[JaydragonKing]

I'm totally open to being convinced James is the yakuza, but you and dino aren't doing that at all

Your ignoring any points we make. How can we convince you then?

[JaydragonKing]

I suggested he was scum, either Lyncher or Yakuza. Since you think me and Dino are Lyncher and Jester, that clearly leaves him as Yakuza.

[JaydragonKing]

Jester's not gonna join you. I'm not gonna join you. So unless N_M decides to self-vote, what's your plan for pushing this lynch through?

Relevant again, huh?

Process of elimination is perfect then.

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: James Brafin

To remind you all where my vote is.

[JaydragonKing]

Clearly Vax and Dino got beef. Let's think rationally about this.

There's a guy with the first letter "J". He seems like a good vote.

[JaydragonKing]

Sigh

...

Good to see you too, NotMaf.

[JaydragonKing]

NotMaf, give me and Dino a break for once and think about why James is scum.

[JaydragonKing]

Lmao. You gotta pay attention to the little things. He's following you now but forgot where his vote was.

[JaydragonKing]

NotMaf, your making Drealm co fused by your very presence. You must be proud.

[JaydragonKing]

I thought I was voting NM.

But then you voted me and unvoted.

[JaydragonKing]

Nah, I'm going to follow Jame's path instead. We'll match!

VOTE: Drealm

[JaydragonKing]

I don't really have a reason for my vote to NOT be on you. Your clearly not listening to reason, so I have no reason to listen to town.

[JaydragonKing]

I'll vote him if you do Dino.

My L-1 threat still applies.

[JaydragonKing]

Do I make sense as Yakuza?

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Not like I'm going to lose if he dies now.

[JaydragonKing]

Well he should probably claim since this is legit L-1.

[JaydragonKing]

UNVOTE:

I'm still not gonna win anyway from this. But let's see if part two of my plan works.

[JaydragonKing]

Actually, to be frank, let me cause more chaos being truthful.

I'm Lyncher and I've just been following Dino to get what I thought was a simple Lynch on my target.

I am not inclined to instead hope he dies during the night and win as a Neutral Survivor.

[JaydragonKing]

Actually, to be frank, let me cause more chaos being truthful.

I'm Lyncher and I've just been following Dino to get what I thought was a simple Lynch on my target.

I am

now

inclined to instead hope he dies during the night and win as a Neutral Survivor.

Ewbop whatever.

[JaydragonKing]

James is scum AND my target. So kindly vote him plz.

But if you don't believe me, atleast he'll be himself as the Yakuza tonight regardless and I win as Surv.

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: James

Found the Lyncher guys.

The guy I've been on for 90% of the game is my target. Shocking, right?

[JaydragonKing]

Well we COULD do that....

But now they have nothing holding them back from hanging you, Dino.

[JaydragonKing]

you 2...crack me up...

I almost fell for it

ALMOST

You mind explaining your breakthrough for the rest of us?

[JaydragonKing]

Exactly!

[JaydragonKing]

I don't buy the lyncher claim for a second; I think that Jay might be the Yazuka.

... You literally could have pushed me as your Lyncher to get Lynched. Trying to accuse me of being Yakuza is gonna fuck you over more.

[JaydragonKing]

Have you taken into account that Im the Lyncher and DINO's the Jester?

You do realize I wasn't lying when I said this, right?

[JaydragonKing]

Man, you really doubt me that much. How could you?!

[JaydragonKing]

My ISO is very respectable, I'll tell you what!

[JaydragonKing]

Your clearly not taking this Seriously.

[JaydragonKing]

...

I tried to help. I really did.

[JaydragonKing]

Clearly Drealm doesn't believe us anymore, Dino. I tried my best.

[JaydragonKing]

I admit defeat then.

VOTE: Mathdino

[JaydragonKing]

You want to help me Lynch my target, Dino?

By all means, be my guest.

[JaydragonKing]

Like I said earlier, if I'm losing I might as well make sure scum lose too. Sorry Dino. It's been a pleasure.

[JaydragonKing]

Hey Vax! You missed a lot.

[JaydragonKing]

If this setup becomes official, may the souls who suffer be blessed in a heavenly aura.

[JaydragonKing]

A mass claim would be nice, yeah.

[JaydragonKing]

I CC Doctor.

[JaydragonKing]

Nobody takes me seriously now... The nerve.

[JaydragonKing]

Anyone should claim next, since I don't think James is going to anytime soon.

[JaydragonKing]

I kinda figured Dino was the Deprogrammer as well with all the talk about the deprogrammer targeting themselves. You can't be more obvious if you tried.

UNVOTE:

[JaydragonKing]

James hasn't claimed yet even when he was supposed too.

VOTE: James

[JaydragonKing]

Now would be an amazing time to get going again please and thank you.

[JaydragonKing]

I didn't know I needed to claim.
I claim PGO. :p Really wanted to save that...
But

@MOD,

I'm probably going to need to replace. Life got unexpectedly busy and I can't handle the pace of this game.

Drealm, with Dino's Deprogrammer claim, Not_Mafia's doctor, and James PGO, please tell me you realized there hasn't been a serious CC yet. And look around very carefully.

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: Vaxkiller

I'm up to see what the heck is gonna happen when a non-active slot is suddenly thrown into the night action. Then again, James is the PGO supposedly so he doesn't have to think about his actions.

[JaydragonKing]

There's no scumteam Dino.

A new votecount would be nice.

[JaydragonKing]

Ask and you shall receive. Bins-chan is the best Mod. Praise her.

[JaydragonKing]

If he dies and (hopefully) doesn't convert me I'll be fine as a neutral Survivor and will side with whoever makes a better case to me. Maybe town, maybe the new scum, who knows.

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: James Brafin

[JaydragonKing]

I'm sensing a theme now...

But I don't want to wake up to see Dino's vote there and a hammer so I'mma wait a bit.

Happy Valentines day, you weirdos.

Elsa best Queen. Send Chocolates.

[JaydragonKing]

Woah, Vax getting serious.

All three townie roles are claimed now by NotMaf, Dino, and James. You all know what I am so that leaves you and Drealm, Vax.

[JaydragonKing]

Well shit Dino lied again. Who'd have thought?

[JaydragonKing]

I kinda figured Dino was the Deprogrammer as well with all the talk about the deprogrammer targeting themselves. You can't be more obvious if you tried.

UNVOTE:

He's crumbed his role. You haven't.

[JaydragonKing]

Oh, a question to the Mod then.

@Bins: Should the mafia shoot the PGO, I want to confirm if the PGO dies as well or does he live? You already addressed the conversion part but I want to be sure.

[JaydragonKing]

Well that's what the Massclaim idea was for, Vax.

[JaydragonKing]

Do you think he's Jester then?

[JaydragonKing]

He was very obvious about claiming Deprogrammer. How many votes is against Vax?

[JaydragonKing]

Question,Drealm. If I help town hang Vax, you promise to Lynch Jame's replacement with me day 2?

[JaydragonKing]

Well alright then. I just hope you'll let me win along with the town then if given the opportunity.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[JaydragonKing]

Yeah Vax your fucked when Dino gets here to hammer. Sorry you couldn't win.

And since you didn't hammer yourself I know your not the Jester so that's nice.

[JaydragonKing]

Unless you convince EVERYONE that James is the Yakuza instead of you you got no chance. And since he's my target that ends the entire game here and now. Town probably doesn't want to take that chance.

[JaydragonKing]

Oh god damnit the Jester realized he can't win if we hang Vax. Now we REALLY need the replacement.

[JaydragonKing]

... I thought you were the real Doctor, Drealm? NotMaf's the Jester. I'm Lyncher. Vax is Yakuza. Dino is deprog. And James is PGO.

Game solved. Let's get Vax.

[JaydragonKing]

I've been openly hones about my target. I've been openly playing to my wincon by asking town to help me hang James tommorow. I'm even gamesolving like a townie for peet sake!

[JaydragonKing]

... I thought you were the real Doctor, Drealm? NotMaf's the Jester. I'm Lyncher. Vax is Yakuza. Dino is deprog. And James is PGO.

Game solved. Let's get Vax.

There's my explanation. He can't win if I get my way. So he's trying to side with you to get Dino.

[JaydragonKing]

Almost you crazy old Maniac.

[JaydragonKing]

huh. Wonder how you got that read? so

shocking

[JaydragonKing]

Read the rules again Dino. I can win with town when the mafia dies.

[JaydragonKing]

Are we supposed to lynch our deprogrammer in this scenario? I'm so confused on how to play this. And no, the game ends if the lyncher gets lynched.

@MOD, can Jester win if we kill the Mafioso and Lyncher?

Because town can just not lynch.

Even with a Mafia lynch D1, game will continue until the Lyncher or his target is lynched (unless the Lyncher becomes a Survivor). Jester must be lynched to win.

Also, to clarify: Lyncher target cannot be themself.

[JaydragonKing]

I was wondering when you'd notice James' screw up.

[JaydragonKing]

... I don't understand why Dino is being so dumb ATM.

Fucking fuck, Dino's playing it up as Jester now more then ever. He WANTS this confusion to happen.

Let's say we no Lynch. Going into day 2 we know I want to Lynch Almost to win. If the Yakuza kills AND converts that leaves four people. If you No Lynch I'm going into day 2 with a one-track mind and having that vote on Almost. Hanging me just gives the Yakuza an out and you still gotta deal with who's the Jester day 2.

No Lynch is the worst thing to do.

[JaydragonKing]

... FUCK

[JaydragonKing]

UNVOTE:

[JaydragonKing]

Wait I need a new vote count right fucking now.

[JaydragonKing]

I don't get what the fuck is going on. Someone please. Did we just Lynch Dino?

[JaydragonKing]

Why would you goddamn self-vote then?

[JaydragonKing]

... I'm still worried your trolling, but alright then.

I think you got caught when you kept pushing for me to die even though that's stupid I this situation.

[JaydragonKing]

What's your plan tomorrow when I flip lyncher lol

Yeah we loss.

[JaydragonKing]

What the fuck Drealm?! You could have killed the Doctor. Then you and me could have forced a no Lynch. Then you kill the deprog. Then we both win after hanging Almost.

FIRST YOU DON'T EVEN LISTEN TO ME WHEN I LITERALLY SAY I'M THE LYNCHER AND THEN YA KILL ME?!

[JaydragonKing]

I was only working with him day one to hang the mafia day 1. Of course I was gonna try to hang him or tell the mafia to kill Vax/Drealm next.

[JaydragonKing]

Damnit, this all could have been avoided if you fucking hung the Deprog with me Drealm. It could have been you and me for eternity!

[JaydragonKing]

I even called it out yet you both fucking laughed it off.

"What if I'm the Lyncher and DINO'S the Jester?"

Dino, legit tell me if that gave you a heart attack when I said that?

[JaydragonKing]

Well that was before I decided to try and be open with town to fuck over the Jester and the Mafia. Look how well that turned out.

[JaydragonKing]

Aha, you only accounted for Jay, but Elsa comes in from behind with the Hell of 1000 Winters and a bloody frying pan to knock your brains out quite literally!

[JaydragonKing]

My flavor text is top notch, I'll have you know!

Oh, and one more week before I have the ability to run a game myself. May wait a bit though for stuff around me to settle down.

[JaydragonKing]

My flavor text is top notch, I'll have you know!

Oh, and one more week before I have the ability to run a game myself. May wait a bit though for stuff around me to settle down.

Who's the main mod? Jay or Elsa?

Jay's doing the dirty work and running the numbers and votes but Elsa's the lovely hostess. As it should be.

[JaydragonKing]

Well that's not really a game of Mafia, now is it?

[JaydragonKing]

Obviously we all make a rolecard and Almost randomizes who gets what. It'll be fucking chaos.

[JaydragonKing]

Oh, Bins-chan, your no longer puke green but pink instead. What's the occasion?

[JaydragonKing]

Oh, Bins-chan, your no longer puke green but pink instead. What's the occasion?

down w puke colour

Doesn't really answer my question but alrighty. Am also still said I failed your honor and couldn't get a Lyncher Victor, Bins-chan.