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Coin Payback II (Final Results)

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:10 pm

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So here's a variant on the coin game.

Everyone starts with nine more coins than the number of players in the game. (8 players - 17 coins each, 21 players - 30 coins each, etc), and there are thirteen rounds in the game.
Each round, players spend some integer number of coins, and they're ranked against the other players, with those who spend more receiving the better rank. Then they receive a payback depending on their position - last place receives 10 coins, and each higher place receives one coin more in payback (so with eight players, 1st would receive 17 coins). If there's a tie, those involved in the tie receive the lower amount (and in a tie for last the amount paid will be reduced below 10 accordingly)

However, the goal is
not
to build up the most coins; instead it is to earn the most points over the thirteen rounds. Each round, players in (roughly) the top half of positions receive points, with 1st receiving the most (obviously). The point system will vary depending on the number of players in the game, but as an example, with 8 players the top four would receive points in a 9-6-3-1 fashion, or with 12 players it would be the top six in a 10-6-4-3-2-1 fashion. Again, if there is a tie, the players involved will receive points according to the lower position.
Example with 8 players wrote:Player A spends 15 coins, ranking 1st. He receives 17 coins in payback, along with 9 points.
Player B spends 14 coins, ranking 2nd. He receives 16 coins in payback, along with 6 points.
Player F and G both spend 12 coins, tying for 3rd. They receive 14 coins each in payback, along with 1 point (the score for 4th).
Player H spends 9 coins, ranking 5th. He receives 13 coins in payback, but no points.
Player D spends 6 coins, ranking 6th. He receives 12 coins in payback, but no points.
Player C and Player E both spend 0 coins, tying for last. They receive 9 coins each in payback (they tie for last, which reduces the last place payback), but no points.
It's also possible to send a default/fallback value to use in the future if you happen to not submit. You can express the value in an absolute number of coins, or a percentage of the total (which will be rounded down if necessary). If a player doesn't submit and doesn't have a fallback value, they won't participate in that round.

It's one of those games that's a lot easier to understand by just jumping in, you can view the previous game to get more of an idea.

Final Standings

RankNameR01R02R03R04R05R06R07R08R09R10R11R12R13Total
1Not_Mafia9999339
2Gammagooey16966937
3Felissan6993633
4mallowgeno9633627
5Cheery Dog613613626
6StrangerCoug3316922
9animorpherv1336315
9TwoInAMillion61331115
9Vijarada63311115


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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:31 pm

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You can try it if you like, but last game wins very quickly became more expensive than a single set of coins.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:33 am

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That's eight, but we can play more - and there's about one day left to sign up.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:59 pm

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Alright, looks like we're starting with nine.
Everyone starts with 18 coins, and the point distribution is the same as last game: 9-6-3-1-0-0-0-0-0. The coin payback distribution goes 18-17-16-15-14-13-12-11-10.
Round 1 starts now, and ends in (expired on 2018-01-26 13:00:00).
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Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:02 pm

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Round 1 Result

Two people go all-in, so neither of them get the 9 points. Behind them, three others spend moderately but only have two point-places to chase, and while they all profit to some extent StrangerCoug (who missed out) will most likely be disappointed. Well below them are the four who elected to save up, but they're hindered by last place still having spent 2.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
2TwoInAMillion61817
-1
2Vijarada61817
-1
3animorpherv131516
1
4Gammagooey11415
1
5StrangerCoug01214
2
6Felissan0613
7
8Cheery Dog0311
8
8Not_Mafia0311
8
9mallowgeno0210
8


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
2TwoInAMillion617
2Vijarada617
3animorpherv1319
4Gammagooey119
7Cheery Dog026
7mallowgeno026
7Not_Mafia026
8Felissan025
9StrangerCoug020


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Post Post #15 (isolation #5) » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:46 am

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Round 2 Result

Cheery Dog and Felissan both go for 18, producing another tie for first. Below that most players elect to save their coins, allowing StrangerCoug to score third place with 12 and TwoInAMillion to score fourth place with a mere 7 coins! TwoInAMillion picks up 8 coins in profit along with that point, a very well-chosen spend. Below that, mallowgeno gets 9, Not_Mafia gets 10, Gammagooey gets 11(!), but animorpherv1 and Vijarada tie for last and only get 9 themselves.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
2Cheery Dog61817
-1
2Felissan61817
-1
3StrangerCoug31216
4
4TwoInAMillion1715
8
5mallowgeno0514
9
6Not_Mafia0313
10
7Gammagooey0112
11
9animorpherv1009
9
9Vijarada009
9


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1TwoInAMillion725
2Vijarada626
3Cheery Dog625
4Felissan624
5animorpherv1328
6StrangerCoug324
7Gammagooey130
8Not_Mafia036
9mallowgeno035


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Post Post #17 (isolation #6) » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:17 pm

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With 9 players, untied 1st gets 18 now :P
(I've nearly made the same mistake a few times myself, don't worry)
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Post Post #18 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:20 pm

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Round 3 Result

Not_Mafia throws down all his coins to secure the first win of the series, but second place is 11 coins behond. Vijarada claims third on 21, then a three-way tie on 17 coins means no one scores fourth place. TwoInAMillion spends 12 to get 12, while Cheery Dog and Felissan are the only two to turn a profit this round.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1Not_Mafia93618
-18
2Gammagooey62517
-8
3Vijarada32116
-5
6animorpherv101713
-4
6mallowgeno01713
-4
6StrangerCoug01713
-4
7TwoInAMillion01212
0
8Cheery Dog0211
9
9Felissan0010
10


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Vijarada921
2Not_Mafia918
3TwoInAMillion725
4Gammagooey722
6Cheery Dog634
6Felissan634
7animorpherv1324
8StrangerCoug320
9mallowgeno031


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Post Post #20 (isolation #8) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:21 pm

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Round 4 Result

mallowgeno wins the round by spending 25, giving him his first points. StrangerCoug and Vijarada tie below him on 20, giving them 3 each, while Cheery Dog takes fourth with 19 coins. Felissan spends 18 and is left begging, while the other three elect to save. TwoInAMillion spends 10 to get 13, while a last place tie allows Not_Mafia to go +11 by spending 1 coin.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1mallowgeno92518
-7
3StrangerCoug32016
-4
3Vijarada32016
-4
4Cheery Dog11915
-4
5Felissan01814
-4
6TwoInAMillion01013
3
7Not_Mafia0112
11
9animorpherv1009
9
9Gammagooey009
9


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Vijarada1217
2Not_Mafia929
3mallowgeno924
4Gammagooey731
5Cheery Dog730
6TwoInAMillion728
7Felissan630
8StrangerCoug616
9animorpherv1333


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Post Post #21 (isolation #9) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:46 pm

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Round 5 Result

Gammagooey claims the round win with 27 coins, while mallowgeno goes 23 and animorpherv1 20. After that there's a
huge
drop - fourth place could have been claimed for a mere 3 coins, but Cheery Dog and TwoInAMillion tie on 2. They still go +12, however, as does Felissan on 1. Not_Mafia, StrangerCoug, and Vijarada ALL spend 0, and only wind up earning 8 coins each for their trouble thanks to the penalty.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1Gammagooey92718
-9
2mallowgeno62317
-6
3animorpherv132016
-4
5Cheery Dog0214
12
5TwoInAMillion0214
12
6Felissan0113
12
9Not_Mafia008
8
9StrangerCoug008
8
9Vijarada008
8


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Gammagooey1622
2mallowgeno1518
3Vijarada1225
4Not_Mafia937
5Cheery Dog742
6TwoInAMillion740
7Felissan642
8animorpherv1629
9StrangerCoug624


Round 6 starts now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-02 15:00:00).
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Post Post #22 (isolation #10) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:48 pm

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Round 6 Result

Felissan snatches the win away by one coin, while Cheery Dog and TwoInAMillion tie on 30 and only claim 3 points each. Vijarada spends 24 coins to take the last point. Below that, animorpherv1 spends 20 and misses out, StrangerCoug spends 10 and at least makes a profit, while Gammagooey picks up another +11 on 1 coin thanks to mallowgeno and Not_Mafia tying on 0.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1Felissan93118
-13
3Cheery Dog33016
-14
3TwoInAMillion33016
-14
4Vijarada12415
-9
5animorpherv102014
-6
6StrangerCoug01013
3
7Gammagooey0112
11
9mallowgeno009
9
9Not_Mafia009
9


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Gammagooey1633
2Felissan1529
3mallowgeno1527
4Vijarada1316
5Cheery Dog1028
6TwoInAMillion1026
7Not_Mafia946
8StrangerCoug627
9animorpherv1623


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Post Post #23 (isolation #11) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:57 am

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Round 7 Result

Not_Mafia secures the win this round with 34 coins, while Gammagooey takes second with 32. TwoInAMillion goes all-in to take third place with 26, but there's a big drop from there to StrangerCoug on 13 (who manages to go +2). Of the savers, mallowgeno goes +9, Vijarada +10, and there's a three-way tie for last place on
2
coins, so with the penalty they only go +6 each.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1Not_Mafia93418
-16
2Gammagooey63217
-15
3TwoInAMillion32616
-10
4StrangerCoug11315
2
5mallowgeno0514
9
6Vijarada0313
10
9animorpherv1028
6
9Cheery Dog028
6
9Felissan028
6


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Gammagooey2218
2Not_Mafia1830
3mallowgeno1536
4Felissan1535
5Vijarada1326
6TwoInAMillion1316
7Cheery Dog1034
8StrangerCoug729
9animorpherv1629


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Post Post #25 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:55 pm

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Round 8 Result

This was a high-spending round with some VERY close spending that is sure to leave some players disappointed. Felissan takes the win with 32 coins, while Cheery Dog spends 31 and mallowgeno 30. Vijarada claims the last point with 24 coins, leaving animorpherv1 hanging on 20 coins. Lower down, StrangerCoug spends 12 and at least goes +1, Not_Mafia spends 3 to go +9, while Gammagooey spends 1 and TwoInAMillion 0 to go +10 each.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1Felissan93218
-14
2Cheery Dog63117
-14
3mallowgeno33016
-14
4Vijarada12415
-9
5animorpherv102014
-6
6StrangerCoug01213
1
7Not_Mafia0312
9
8Gammagooey0111
10
9TwoInAMillion0010
10


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Felissan2421
2Gammagooey2228
3Not_Mafia1839
4mallowgeno1822
5Cheery Dog1620
6Vijarada1417
7TwoInAMillion1326
8StrangerCoug730
9animorpherv1623


With only five rounds left, it's looking like it could be a very close finish. Round 9 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-08 11:00:00).
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Post Post #26 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:40 pm

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Round 9 Result

Not_Mafia secures the win this round with 31, while StrangerCoug spends 30 to take second. It's a bit of a drop from there, with Felissan spending 21 for 3rd and TwoInAMillion taking 4th with 18. Vijarada spends 17, but is left begging. Further down, the savers are fairly spread out this time - mallowgeno goes +7, animorpherv1 +8, while Cheery Dog and Gammagooey go +9 each.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1Not_Mafia93118
-13
2StrangerCoug63017
-13
3Felissan32116
-5
4TwoInAMillion11815
-3
5Vijarada01714
-3
6mallowgeno0613
7
7animorpherv10412
8
8Cheery Dog0211
9
9Gammagooey0110
9


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Not_Mafia2726
2Felissan2716
3Gammagooey2237
4mallowgeno1829
5Cheery Dog1629
6TwoInAMillion1423
7Vijarada1414
8StrangerCoug1317
9animorpherv1631


Round 10 starts now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-10 11:00:00). A reminder that there will be no submission for Round 13, as every player will automatically submit all of their remaining coins.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #14) » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:25 pm

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Round 10 Result

For the first time since Round 2 we have a tie for first place, with both animorpherv1 and Gammagooey spending 30 coins to collect 6 points each. mallowgeno spends 28 to take third and Cheery Dog 27 to round out the point-scoring positions. Below that, TwoInAMillion spends 14 to get 14 back, while Not_Mafia manages a +11! Felissan, Vijarada, and StrangerCoug all go +10.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
2animorpherv163017
-13
2Gammagooey63017
-13
3mallowgeno32816
-12
4Cheery Dog12715
-12
5TwoInAMillion01414
0
6Not_Mafia0213
11
8Felissan0111
10
8Vijarada0111
10
9StrangerCoug0010
10


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Gammagooey2824
2Not_Mafia2737
3Felissan2726
4mallowgeno2117
5Cheery Dog1717
6Vijarada1424
7TwoInAMillion1423
8StrangerCoug1327
9animorpherv11218


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Post Post #28 (isolation #15) » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:03 pm

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Round 11 Result

Neither TwoInAMillion or Vijarada submit, so this round only has 7 participants. And of those, only two try to actually spend - Not_Mafia, who takes 1st with 28 coins, and Felissan, who takes 2nd with 26. Cheery Dog collects an easy 3rd place with 5 coins, while animorpherv1 and Gammagooey tie on 1, and mallowgeno and StrangerCoug tie on 0.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1Not_Mafia92818
-10
2Felissan62617
-9
3Cheery Dog3516
11
5animorpherv10114
13
5Gammagooey0114
13
7mallowgeno0011
11
7StrangerCoug0011
11


Current Standings

RankNamePointsCoins
1Not_Mafia3627
2Felissan3317
3Gammagooey2837
4mallowgeno2128
5Cheery Dog2028
6Vijarada1424
7TwoInAMillion1423
8StrangerCoug1338
9animorpherv11231


Round 12 starts now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-13 20:00:00). Round 13 will take place immediately after, and everyone will automatically spend all of their remaining coins there.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:21 am

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Round 12 Result

TwoInAMillion fails to submit.

RankNamePointsCoins SpentCoin PaybackProfit
1StrangerCoug93818
-20
2mallowgeno62817
-11
3Not_Mafia32716
-11
4Vijarada12415
-9
5animorpherv102014
-6
6Felissan01713
-4
7Gammagooey01212
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8Cheery Dog0811
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Post Post #30 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:25 am

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Round 13 Result

RankNamePointsCoins Spent
1Gammagooey937
2Cheery Dog631
3animorpherv1325
4TwoInAMillion123
5StrangerCoug018
6mallowgeno017
7Not_Mafia016
9Felissan015
9Vijarada015
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Post Post #33 (isolation #18) » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:36 am

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Final Standings

RankNameR01R02R03R04R05R06R07R08R09R10R11R12R13Total
1Not_Mafia9999339
2Gammagooey16966937
3Felissan6993633
4mallowgeno9633627
5Cheery Dog613613626
6StrangerCoug3316922
9animorpherv1336315
9TwoInAMillion61331115
9Vijarada63311115


Not_Mafia manages to make it two for two, with a very high-spending Round 12 catching a lot of players out. Gammagooey and Felissan round out the podium, and strangely enough there's a three-way tie for last place. Congratulations to our champion, and thanks to everyone for playing.

Probably gonna do a game 3, any feedback is appreciated!
I'm trying to think of a way to keep players lower down from giving up and losing motivation. I added the option to have a fallback value to the rules but it wasn't really taken advantage much, maybe its importance could be stressed some more?
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Post Post #37 (isolation #19) » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:02 am

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Perhaps?
The plan I put down for 10 was 9-6-4-2-1, which would definitely feel a lot nicer.
I think I'll try running with that even if we get 9 again next time.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #20) » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:32 pm

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And signups for Game 3 are now open!
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