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[Hawk]

Eh if Flavor is town we lost anyway. VOTE: Flavor

Flavor my trajectory is I know my role PM is green.

[Flavor Leaf]

Eh if Flavor is town we lost anyway. VOTE: Flavor

Flavor my trajectory is I know my role PM is green.

That doesn’t show the trajectory. That’s just a WIFOM attempt. If I had voted Gamma, you’d have voted Gamma.

[Hawk]

Wifom? I won't vote Gamma. Also you're playing with fire if you're voting me as town... Really Mafia Miller? you're both insane you know that right.

[Hawk]

I want you to think about gamebalance for a second in what world does Mafia Miller make sense against Cop, RC and Neighborizer. Cop can guilty it sure but that's not detrimental to town. Especially if the Miller plays it right and claims d1 first post. RC confirms it but then gets bamboozled? The only actual power role is Neighborizer? no I don't think so. I think normal Miller normal Neighborizer makes fine sense for the setup. plenty of Wifom and with only. RB and encryptor for mafia it can seem very downsides when your RB traitor gets lynched d2 off a guilty.

[Hawk]

I may be really bad at setup spec but everytime you guys say mafia Miller I literally go wtf that... I mean.. is that a thing? that can't be a thing and you can't be buying this it's fucking insane.

[Hawk]

Does that make my trajectory a bit more clear Flavor? I know I'm green and after my claim I should have basically been a named townie. Everything you guys are throwing around me being the last scum is some fucking moonlogic wifom.

[Flavor Leaf]

You were literally talking about how you’ll be for sure getting to 3p lylo because of Miller WIFOM.

Also, “only pr would be Neighborizer”
False, Cop would be there, and game wise mafia Miller would balance it.

Role cop and a cop together break the game without the basically godfather. No game is going to be swingy enough that it ends Day 2 after. Role cop get encryptor, cop would have to get a non miller non traitor mafia member for the game not to be broken.

Miller as the last mafia member completely fixes the game.

You not voting Gamma locks it in for me. You want me to vote Gamma so you can hammer, whilst still pushing me in case Gamma goes my way.

I think you played well. But you make sense as the last scum after everything that has happened.

[Srceenplay]

Official Vote Count

Hawk

(1): Flavor Leaf

Flavor Leaf

(1): Hawk

Not Voting

(1): Gamma Emerald

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Hawk

[Srceenplay]

Official Vote Count

Hawk

(2): Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald

Flavor Leaf

(1): Hawk

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

[Srceenplay]

Hawk has been lynched. They were,

Spoiler:

Town Miller

You are a

Town Miller

Win Conditions:
* You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Abilities:
* passively returns a Mafia result if investigated by a cop.


Game thread is here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=74658.

A win condition has been achieved. Congratulations scum team.

[Srceenplay]

GG everyone.
Thanks for playing in my first game.

I really thought on day one mafia was hosed.

[Srceenplay]

Gamma
Creature
Flavor.

Let me know in here or privately if you are ok with your PT’s released.

[Hawk]

Eh... I guess even as a named townie I'm not very town. My bad guys. I really did try...

[Srceenplay]

Dead PT is now public.
Will link all available threads in OP at lunch break.

[Srceenplay]

A miller can only be a miller in normal games.
You did fine hawk.
You claimed day one just like you were supposed to. (A little late but I don’t think it hurts any)
And then role cop checked you night one just as I would expect.

[Srceenplay]

Flavor played on both of your fears and doubts. Notice when he seen you where not going to vote with him on gamma he switched to you.

[Gamma Emerald]

How did this setup get passed...
NRG you fucked up
go ahead and release my PT

[Hawk]

Gamma I really didn't have a good case for Flavor because up until Chara died he wasn't that high on my list. Probably pocketed..
I shoulda stuck with my gut pre neighborhood and pushed for a flabr lynch harder... i still had flavor scumread there... but the neighborhood kinda messed with me... I didn't see scum!flavor in there..

[Hawk]

Also sorry for doubting you Chara or being harsh I wanted flavor to bring you into final 3...

[Gamma Emerald]

Huh I guess miller is only town in normals
I thought they could be mafia because of a normal idea game
whomever is responsible for this I'm gonna destroy next time I see them

[havingfitz]

Ah boo.

Good game scum (mvp FL). You had an uphill battle with your partner's scum shortcomings (from what I've heard).

Meh game town (lvp Frogger). Good job Anti copping Mulch. Good game by Chara...no worries on keeping quiet with my role cop results. I would have kept quiet too probably...though perhaps not supported a quicklynch. Lies and blinders didn't do town any favors.
Bleh.

Thanks for modding Srceen!

[Hawk]

Huh I guess miller is only town in normals
I thought they could be mafia because of a normal idea game
whomever is responsible for this I'm gonna destroy next time I see them

stuff like this royally fucks with my head.... I'm not good at setup spec and last game we mislynched a doctor because he was "grey" role and could self target. Someone mentioned that's not normal and pulled it up. Plus we had two very hard read townies that game so it didn't make sense. Now with stuff like this I had a hard time wanting to be confident that Neighborizer only makes sense as town here and there's no way mafia Miller ever exists.... but here we are.

*sigh* I also probably let the named townie thing get to my head... Especially after Chara copped me. I was hesitant that Chara was town till he claimed. At that point I thought well I should be the decider vote tomorrow if I don't die...

[Creature]

Gamma
Creature
Flavor.

Let me know in here or privately if you are ok with your PT’s released.

I am okay.

[Srceenplay]

Antihero coped mulch and flavor. It’s just that flavor had them killed the same night.