Valentine's Dance - [GAME OVER]

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∾ ♥ ∾ ♥ ∾ ♥ ∾ Sir Gentlekid3, Will you dance with me this fine night? And when the hour grows late and the crowds begin to thin Bring me back to your estate and be the first to bed me Lovingly yours, Ladybereth, P.S. I'm Asian ∾ ♥ ∾ ♥ ∾ ♥ ∾

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Awwwwww that's so romantic Elli <3
I think it's really nice that Chesskid is able to overlook the skill, looks and intelligence gaps between himself and Elli.
Feels like true love

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beeboy is looking pretty attractive.

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That isn't game related and I am being personally attacked.
Please apologize.

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Oh god I have so many snarky replies to that but I can't choose fak.

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I think we made it very obvious what chess and I will be doing "behind the scenes".

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EVERYONE IS COPYING MY LETTER FORMAT WTF IS THIS

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I'm gonna guarantee you I'm infinitely more familiar with Ellibereth than you, just in general, since we were both members of SDC 8 years ago.
I'm gonna also guarantee you that I've had conversations very recently w/ Elli where I was trolling him saying he wasn't as good as the rest of us back then, which is mostly what I was referencing.

Elli doesn't intend on actually playing this game as far as he told me.

????

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with VERY few exceptions i think "i can read [certain person]" assertions are mostly bullshit

pairing w someone w some vague notion of a SOOPERDOOPER ACCURATE read magically forming later in the game doesn't seem plausible to me

I BELIEVE

I'll be able to read ~most people here~ accurately

later in the game.

As a matter of fact I'm only misreading 3 people right now!

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with VERY few exceptions i think "i can read [certain person]" assertions are mostly bullshit

pairing w someone w some vague notion of a SOOPERDOOPER ACCURATE read magically forming later in the game doesn't seem plausible to me

I BELIEVE

I'll be able to read ~most people here~ accurately

later in the game.

As a matter of fact I'm only misreading 3 people right now!

Are you really the one reading the players accurately if your just using 3rd party tools

Wtf are these 3rd party tools

I don't feel like talking about them atm.

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bee
fire
joey
kokichi
venmar
harambey

how would you rate your town games from 1-10

1, 2, would be more detrimental to wincon than not.
4 would be like avg.
10 would be omnipotent god who knows all alignments instantly, is never mislynched, etc.

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bee
joey
kokichi
venmar
harambey

how would you rate your town games from 1-10

1, 2, would be more detrimental to wincon than not.
4 would be like avg.
10 would be omnipotent god who knows all alignments instantly, is never mislynched, etc.

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chessy strongest townreads atm?

the category elli-will-sheep-early-game-chess ones
not the lol-elli-thinks-you're-unreliable-at-those ones

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the thing is chessy and i can get people lynched without explaining so it becomes subopt to explain ^.^

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the thing is chessy and i can [play the game incorrectly] so it becomes subopt to [play correctly] ^.^

You have much to learn young one.

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Probably some large subset of this? There's not full confidence in all of these etc etc (BUT CHESSKID NEVER GIVE < 100% ON A TOWNREAD) WELL FUCK YOU ELLI WE DONT HAVE A PT YET

Joey_
Kokichi Oma
Antihero
Dunnstral
sheepsaysmeep
Kagami
Maki Harukawa

Mmmm
Thats longer than it should be and you know it.

And I'm saying that BEFORE leaving for the bedchamber.

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Chess and I are most likely dying at intermission because I have the thing that does the stuff.

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I mean so its okay for anti to pair with obvtownzzz

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@anti: I will accept if u want but that just means scum can safely kill you and knock out 2 people

we want to pair the "need to kill" townplayers (from scum POV) with potential scum so they have to hit one of their own if they want you gone

Yeah but there's already a pair of that. Assuming me/Elli are both town. And if we aren't we'll sort that shit out right pronto and town's already up.

I.e. 2 pairs of must kill when they can only kill 1 is a shit situation for scum

there is no world in which you/elli as nonconfirmed town are a more priority kill target for scum than an innocent child who had his role PM revealed in the opening post

i love you chessy but no

It depends on who the scumteam is really. There are some people here who can't afford to leave me alive past some amount of posts.

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VOLKAN HAS REACHED HIS FINAL FORM

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Hey bee are you scared of getting machined all over.

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Every time Harambe opens his mouth he needs to die but no chesskid restrain yourself others need death more

Hey bee are you scared of getting machined all over.

i thought the flow of his early to mid-early game was a little awkward. other than that i have no notable feelings for beeboy

what's wrong w beeboy?

i'm chainsawing for chess

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I've felt like 5 pages of stuff happened but we're on page 46.
What a mystery.

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people who feel like they're out of their scum range already please raise your hands

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part of why I'm here is to see couples blow up at each other.

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do you actually think chess is scum

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Ali I'm dying

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Joey was basically my only townread lmao Ali you're the best

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raise your kappas for joey_

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IT'S NOT A MAFIA GAME

IF ALISAE DOESN'T DIE D1

AND KAGAMI DOESN'T DIE N1

AAAAAY

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THERE'S AN MD THREAD FOR MOMENTS LIKE THESE

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THERE'S AN MD THREAD FOR MOMENTS LIKE THESE

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=74436

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ALSO

Bee I assumed you were pushing chess to push me by proxy

If you actually think he's scum atm you're bad.

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im more curious about what maki and dunn are doing in their room.

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part of me wants to respect the 1v1 because i want people to respect the 1v1 when i'm 1v1ing.

on the other hand ali bombed joey

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im more curious about what maki and dunn are doing in their room.

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Vote: Fire

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@Elli: Why do you say beeboy is here to just meme?

Stuff we've talked about before the game, hydra experience, generally knowing each other.

I'm still not sure if his chess read is a meme/triggermeelli thing or real though.

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im more curious about what maki and dunn are doing in their room.

WTF DOES THAT MEAN

Spoiler:

I mean you think dunn is scum yeah?

So he either had a poor performance, was caught with another chick, or mysterious third option.

and i'm curious.

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fire from a scale of 3-5 how much do you care about the mafia side of this game

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my instinct is that gamma doesn't fake this sort of stuff as scum but I'll need to check up on it

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gamma want to save me some time

have you ever physically reacted and talked about it in thread as scum before, faked or real.

i'm guessing you have as town so link me those too.

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i'm townreading you because if you're scum thats pretty low

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if only bee signed off as fast as it takes him to get off

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bee i thought you thought sheep was ezmode to read

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I think my interests today only lie with the makikaito, venreck, and shirofire

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bee i thought you thought sheep was ezmode to read

No I am just even worse at reading Alisae and Gamma.

if you rolled scum into me again would you be tryharding just so you can meme the 2-0.

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gamma want to save me some time

have you ever physically reacted and talked about it in thread as scum before, faked or real.

i'm guessing you have as town so link me those too.

I don't believe I've ever had a reaction of THIS magnitude. I think I've had things happen where people townread me for the reason of "if he's scum that's pretty low". Problem with that is I have a massive meta pool so it will take a while to fetch that, and I don't want to spend more time than I have to not keeping an eye on/keeping current with this game.

I'm actually going to check this.

Now's your chance to think back and remember if scumGamma did similar things.

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chess is officially town

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freudian slip kappa keepo

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the r key isn't even right next to the w key

now which does e autocorrect to naturally

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also prein lotr ty

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DO IT HERE

FULL VOYEUR

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hey bee

you know what would make it easier to analyze meta

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gamma isn't you

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but if you gave me a list of tells that work on you it would save me some time too!

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no

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bombing is hilarious

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LOOOL

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Uh...Dunn did something that would make me really really shocked if he was scum

I'm 12 and what is this.

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well I have my 3 TT pairs where do i redeem my ticket

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pedit: I mean I am playing exactly to what my scum agenda would be which is why I am surprised my friends all TR me.

are you surprised i tr you

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chess is officially town

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I think my interests today only lie with the makikaito, venreck, and shirofire

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harambey how old are you

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i can read chess better than dan can

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we don't care anymore

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harambey how were the playstyles on your home site awkward.

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also do you use bookmarks or subscriptions

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who the fuck is dan

dan the man

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also do you use bookmarks or subscriptions

No. When I don't need to use them, I don't. Also I don't want to pay too much attention to this site and put too much in it. Forgive me please if I'm a horrible player like you have never seen in ages

So do you manually go to Private topics and then manually check both of your pt's for this game?

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it would have been pretty fucking funny if scumyou fell for that kek

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actually

if scumyou were getting coached by your scumbuddies to act dumber than you actually were (e.g. pretending to forget who the IC was)
would you be personally insulted or would you gladly execute or none of the above

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Part of me is ok with ending the day now because if Sheep's replacement obv towns I am worried I die in the night.

you're funny

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HAREM BABE

actually

if scumyou were getting coached by your scumbuddies to act dumber than you actually were (e.g. pretending to forget who the IC was)
would you be personally insulted or would you gladly execute or none of the above

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I can’t really read Kagami either but I figure those two die regardless anyways

Maybe talking about this is a negative EV thing to do.

beebrain

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never gets asked to join in group assignments

and often I'm one of the smartest in class

my diagnosis is delusional

bee reading delusional is your specialty right

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Maki is like queen of getting townread as scum
U guys are irrritating

babe you're in your scumrange tho.

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Dunnstral stop townreading maki

Maki is like queen of getting townread as scum
U guys are irrritating

I feel like I have a better grasp of her than you would

I also kind of doubt that you've put all too much effort into this game?

I'm not sure why you think your read on maki supersedes mine or why it's a good idea to keep pushing this

do you guys have a history of reading each other correctly when tvs
i know she fucked up in ita

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i'm openly doing jackshit lmao where did you get that sense

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I've always thought scumranges are kinda silly?

AND WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING THIS UP IN ONE OF OUR MANY TALKS ON THEORY HMMM

or did you and i just don't remember

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Fire is either A) Scum or B) Town

i think i get it now

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I'll get pts

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=69404
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We're both town in both of these and I like to believe I correctly read her both times

i care more about tvs

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And eli can you look at 1901 and harambe's following response

if the tldr is that he's full of shit, not reading, and makes no sense.

part of me chatting with him about stuff was that i now think he's delusional/doesn't make sense in general so.

prolly need to find a scumgame to verify but my instinct is town

but yeah i'll skim it eventually

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DAN THE MAN

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antihero's list is *almost* exactly where i'm at.

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harambae just needs a scumgame meta check that i'm too lazy to do atm

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HAREM BABE

actually

if scumyou were getting coached by your scumbuddies to act dumber than you actually were (e.g. pretending to forget who the IC was)
would you be personally insulted or would you gladly execute or none of the above

Well I have no idea.
First of all I didn't choose to act dumber than I am. I always try to sound the smartest of the group (and often I'm one of the smartest in class) but like when I fail once, I'm a perfectionist, I give up and think I'm super dumb. Then idc that much anymore.

Probably I'd first ask them why they'd want me to act dumber than I am. Regarding my personal situation and the troubles I'm facing irl, I'd probably feel insulted but I do not need to go into too much detail about this also it's game irrelevant so why would I.
I'm not sure what I'd do. I'd probably tell them that I won't do it cuz it's not my scum tactic - though on the other hand I've never ever been scum in a mafia game so far - but like if I'd mess up like I just did here, I'd stay dumb for the rest of the game.

However if I was scum!haram I think it would be way less likely for me to slip up cuz I'd probably make sure I wouldn't. Don't you think too?

On top of being fucking hilarious.
It felt to me like he believed what he saying here.

Maybe i need to check offsite...

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btw i don't get why maki/kaito are in the top category

i also don't get why the middle category is called alternate but i'd put them there

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if he was getting coached to be super dumb it felt like he was getting coached from the start which would have been weird?

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regardless the BLOOD pool is a good pool

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is kags active in your pt

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Fire is town 90% of the time as I said and I have only once been wrong on my fire read.

did you call him town 5 times and he was scum one of those times.

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haHAAAA

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Reck

We've played 2 games together since I came back to site (around half an year ago).

Do you remember what happened in them.

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after i stop getting shitstomped by work

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one of chesskid's shitter teammates couldn't play the match tonight which could have swung the result given his upset
what a shitter

on that note i was busy and still am welp

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lmao

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fun fact

the more harambey posts the less seriously I take this game

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Reck

We've played 2 games together since I came back to site (around half an year ago).

Do you remember what happened in them.

no
and i just went through & updated my wiki today so...am i an idiot? enlighten me.

It's the two games in your wiki lmao.
I "demolished scumteams".

Though the first was a team effort. Where you tried to vig me for gods know why.
While the second was literally a solo carry.

I'm surprised you don't remember >.>

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i thought sheep was town too

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ya I am patient
Dan could still just be trying to dodge the mafia NK

kagami can do this because i'm conftown

dan has no reason to. cut it out.

he's making fun of how I'm actually trying to dodge it kek

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that being said we're NOT the best lynch today because just like reck has said he can determine my alignment by dance 2 I think i can do the same for him.

chesskid3 - Ellibereth [2] - Venmar

KEKERINO

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fun fact

the more harambey posts the less seriously I take this game

Lmao and the more I post, the more seriously I'm starting to take this game

I view you like a guinea pig/lab rat to play around with for personal amusement.
How does that make you feel.

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kags

why is chesstown the starting point here and not ellitown

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gamma when did you first learn what third party tools are

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I'm not ignoring them, I'm waiting for my more curvaceous half.

Even assuming a scum there though where are the other two Kags

remind me what you were waiting on again lmao
something meta something maki?

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Chess and I threw by pairing up.
Maki and Dunn threw by pairing up.
Ali then threw.
Haram then threw.
Kags then threw.

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HAPPY VALENTINES DAY FUCKOS

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I had already mentally marked this as a loss when I saw chess and I died in intermission kek.

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Maki and Dunn threw by pairing up.

Idk seems like a good strat?

Me + Claire then I just get pocketed and lose maybe only other line I see that I think could be better?

High risk high reward.
if either party gets kinda scumread by someone loud its gg yeah?

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I'm not ignoring them, I'm waiting for my more curvaceous half.

Even assuming a scum there though where are the other two Kags

remind me what you were waiting on again lmao
something meta something maki?

Elli was going to use his tools to meta Maki and never had the chance to do it.
Like I don't know it makes perfect sense as a kill?

I was surprised bee noticed things like this kek.

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you dont win games by lynching the village idiot

sometimes you forget that :p

*coughluvcough*

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I wanted to townlock me/chess, bee/sheep, gamma/haram for the win

but then the gorillabomb happened

the holdups were gamma which required a meta check but was pretty clear after that

and sheep.

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this setup is silly

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come back soon kags
we love you

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Elli why didn’t u want to town lock me

Ur so rude

MAYBE HAVING TO DEAL WITH SEEING A LOVE THEMED GAME AND YOU IN IT AT THE SAME TIME BROUGHT BACK UNPLEASANT MEMORIES

HAVE YOU EVER LOOK AT IT THAT WAY

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this setup is lovable Elli

watching village idiots throwing and people getting mad is the real spice of this site

you should check out some of the other games because holy shit the throws

You should make a highlight reel from your games.

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GIVE ME DEM SCUM PT