Valentine's Dance - [GAME OVER]
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But you're a lady right?In post 25, sheepsaysmeep wrote:im that one person who everyone will rejecthi- Harambey180
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I don't get why it has to be necessarily this.In post 36, chesskid3 wrote:Now that I'm happily to be bedded and wedded, I think the setup has to be either 1 girl scum 2 male scum, right? Because we have a lot more control over flipping girls during pre-dance.
And I don't get why 'we' have more control over girls during pre-dance. Wth is that supposed to mean??hi- Harambey180
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Yeah I don't see where they got that from.In post 50, beeboy wrote:
WhatIn post 49, chesskid3 wrote:
Once they've proposed they're dead if they are rejected.In post 45, Harambey180 wrote:
I don't get why it has to be necessarily this.In post 36, chesskid3 wrote:Now that I'm happily to be bedded and wedded, I think the setup has to be either 1 girl scum 2 male scum, right? Because we have a lot more control over flipping girls during pre-dance.
And I don't get why 'we' have more control over girls during pre-dance. Wth is that supposed to mean??
Just that a Gentleman can only accept one. Don't know how many ladies can propose...hi- Harambey180
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Already starting to read so early on?
It's called 'pre-'dance for a reason I guess. For me the game only really starts when the dancing starts.hi- Harambey180
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No.In post 63, Alisae wrote:
Is it bad I want to townread this?In post 60, Harambey180 wrote:Already starting to read so early on?
It's called 'pre-'dance for a reason I guess. For me the game only really starts when the dancing starts.hi- Harambey180
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Well it might take a day or two for me to get all warmed up.In post 65, beeboy wrote:
ehhh early game is a great time to read people.In post 60, Harambey180 wrote:Already starting to read so early on?
It's called 'pre-'dance for a reason I guess. For me the game only really starts when the dancing starts.hi- Harambey180
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The real strategies will be there when the pairs are there. You'll see.In post 71, beeboy wrote:I feel like strategies are more relevant before people pair up.hi- Harambey180
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Yup you thought about it beforehand.In post 79, beeboy wrote:
Town can force strategies though.In post 74, Harambey180 wrote:Cuz you never know what's going on behind the scenes in the pairs.
Like forcing people to pair up to kill them.
Making it so clear you want to kill someone there is no way they pair up with one of there town reads.
ect.
ect.
I haven't though. I'm just here for the fun cuz it sounds like such a wonderful setup.
And it's 17 people which is more than I'm used to. But that aside, I'm probably gonna have a strategy somewhere in the course of this game.hi- Harambey180
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Ooeh, sneaky.In post 83, Ellibereth wrote:I think we made it very obvious what chess and I will be doing "behind the scenes".
Don't be so double-barreled!
Talking about barrels... DK is my hero.hi- Harambey180
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If you want to ask me to the dance, fill in this format:
DearestHarambey180,
Loveunlocks doors that have no lock or doorknob and can't be opened but with love.
Loveopens windows that weren't ever there before apart from in my imagination.
It doesn't take a genius to catch yourdeep blue eye,
but it takes someone special to catch yourheartand I hope that that lady is me.
Yours sincerely,[YOUR NAME]
(P.S. I'm so horrible with computing and editing so this is a horrible format to use, I apologize in advance. I know I'm a clumsy gentleman but I'm not an esshoal, so invite me please unless you like dating with esshoals)hi- Harambey180
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Or just pair with someone random.In post 121, beeboy wrote:
wolfy people pair up with wolfy people.In post 114, Dunnstral wrote:What do you think optimal play here is?
Keep in mind I just want to make my own pair rather than being forced into one regardless, and most people here probably feel the same way
townie people pair up with townie people.
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Pairing up with friends
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pairing up with someone to kill yourself = very bad play.
Roughly the order in which we should do things. The 2nd tier is fine, 3rd tier is kinda shit play and it happened when I last played this setup.
If he seems scummy after some time you can always reconsider the last option, though preferably never do that lmao.
But honestly why are strats going out so early? Just pick someone. And pick randomly cuz then there's only a 1/9 chance that I won't be invited, which is smaller than what should be expected.hi- Harambey180
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All the gentlemen should do the talkin and the girls stay quiet.
Girls only talk bout gossip anyways.hi- Harambey180
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Have you already invited someone?In post 172, Alisae wrote:
HiIn post 163, Harambey180 wrote:Guys please just calm a bit down, how can ppl seriously keep up correctly with such a lot of kinda useless banter?
Pick me, pick others, make 8 pairs. Job done. THEN we can talk.
I kinda think you're town atm.
But I don't think you understand the importance of trying to create a TxT pairing.
We need to take our time to try to create as many TxT pairings and try to force scum to pair up with each other. This greatly increases our chance of winning as we get to kill 2 birds with one stone.
The best way to do that is to judge people's play during this phase.
We need time to establish who the best pairings are.
Going into the first dance within the first 24 hours of the game does just about the same amount of damage as quicklynching.
We have time, so we need to use that time.hi- Harambey180
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If you're town reading me, why don't you invite me then.In post 177, Alisae wrote:
Nope, still deciding on who I want to invite.In post 175, Harambey180 wrote:
Have you already invited someone?In post 172, Alisae wrote:
HiIn post 163, Harambey180 wrote:Guys please just calm a bit down, how can ppl seriously keep up correctly with such a lot of kinda useless banter?
Pick me, pick others, make 8 pairs. Job done. THEN we can talk.
I kinda think you're town atm.
But I don't think you understand the importance of trying to create a TxT pairing.
We need to take our time to try to create as many TxT pairings and try to force scum to pair up with each other. This greatly increases our chance of winning as we get to kill 2 birds with one stone.
The best way to do that is to judge people's play during this phase.
We need time to establish who the best pairings are.
Going into the first dance within the first 24 hours of the game does just about the same amount of damage as quicklynching.
We have time, so we need to use that time.hi- Harambey180
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Then why tf don't you invite me.In post 188, Alisae wrote:
YesIn post 186, Harambey180 wrote:
Do you townread me yes or no.In post 184, Alisae wrote:That's a thing I'm considering atm~
I see no reason to not invite someone you townreadhi- Harambey180
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First Large Theme, why should that be relevant?In post 935, Gamma Emerald wrote:
were you in a game like this before?In post 934, Harambey180 wrote:Lmao I didn't get an invite yet. I'ma gonna sit in a corner when the moment arrives that I get left out again.
Though I should have seen those things coming cuz it's actually rarer when Idoget picked than when I don't.
Savage gonna get me so hard...hi- Harambey180
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Dude, there's only 2 ladies left. There's hardly any choice left.In post 938, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Why are you just waiting for an invite instead of trying to read people to see who you'd actually want to be invited or not invited by? I don't like this appealing to emotion post.In post 934, Harambey180 wrote:Lmao I didn't get an invite yet. I'ma gonna sit in a corner when the moment arrives that I get left out again.
Though I should have seen those things coming cuz it's actually rarer when Idoget picked than when I don't.
Savage gonna get me so hard...
I'd just go with whoever of the two is first and then see how things go.hi- Harambey180
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Refresher: I said 'irl' I also typically get left out whenever they're gonna make groups or stuff like that. It has almost always been that way.In post 940, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You say you're getting left out again, when was the first time?In post 937, Harambey180 wrote:
First Large Theme, why should that be relevant?In post 935, Gamma Emerald wrote:
were you in a game like this before?In post 934, Harambey180 wrote:Lmao I didn't get an invite yet. I'ma gonna sit in a corner when the moment arrives that I get left out again.
Though I should have seen those things coming cuz it's actually rarer when Idoget picked than when I don't.
Savage gonna get me so hard...
Wouldn't be surprised at all if it was the case here too, just disappointed is all.hi- Harambey180
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Also (unless I misread) Gamma and Kagami are the only two ladies left.
Well Gamma screw you with this post...
If it's any of the two I'm going with Kagami right now.hi- Harambey180
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I don't even really have reads by now cuz they're probably bullshit anyways and at least someone is going to point that out.In post 943, Joey_ wrote:In post 931, Alisae wrote:
For the record, what are your reads?In post 930, Joey_ wrote:everyone has so many bullshit reads
its mostly about people outing reads list of 6+ slots that makes no sens, i dont have strong reads atm but few townreadsIn post 932, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Is there anyone who you think doesn't have those?In post 930, Joey_ wrote:everyone has so many bullshit reads
Didn't I tell ya that reads so early on isn't the best Town strategy ever? I know a lot of better ones but it's a matter of time until I can put them to use but the others usually won't let me.hi- Harambey180
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Lmao, you call me so out-of-place that even as a Townie it'd be better for me to leave?In post 946, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I'm sorry but it's not all you, it's that a lot of people aren't big fans of you and it would serve the game for you to be removed from it regardless of your alignment imoIn post 944, Harambey180 wrote:Also (unless I misread) Gamma and Kagami are the only two ladies left.
Well Gamma screw you with this post...
If it's any of the two I'm going with Kagami right now.
Basically you guys are actively putting me in that place when you say those things. How on earth am I going to convince you with whatever I'm gonna say if you already think this at this point?
Gosh, trust is a difficult concept apparently.hi- Harambey180
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Tell me who you want reads on. Reading 16 players all at once is gonna take too much time.In post 948, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I know you just said you didn't want to do this but I want to see your reads, maybe you'll bring something good up. It will at least show you're making an effort to do something.In post 947, Harambey180 wrote:
Lmao, you call me so out-of-place that even as a Townie it'd be better for me to leave?In post 946, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I'm sorry but it's not all you, it's that a lot of people aren't big fans of you and it would serve the game for you to be removed from it regardless of your alignment imoIn post 944, Harambey180 wrote:Also (unless I misread) Gamma and Kagami are the only two ladies left.
Well Gamma screw you with this post...
If it's any of the two I'm going with Kagami right now.
Basically you guys are actively putting me in that place when you say those things. How on earth am I going to convince you with whatever I'm gonna say if you already think this at this point?
Gosh, trust is a difficult concept apparently.
Talking about time, time for school. Maybe I'll go 'phoneposting' there but I guess that my computer is a safer place to post from.hi- Harambey180
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Lmao, Anti theIn post 955, Dunnstral wrote:
Who do you think is more likely to be scum between the two?In post 950, Harambey180 wrote:But take Anti or Kokichi then if you prefer those two. You are scum certified when you do that though so be warned. When I am YET AGAIN the first to die I'm gonna make sure you'll pay for it.already announced Townof course.
Also reads come when I come home, which is in approx. 6 hours.hi- Harambey180
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I just took this into consideration:
The chances of me and Kokichi both being Town are arguably quite big and reasonable.
Besides, the scum have probably already made sure to be paired by now. They don't want to be in danger of not pairing. The scum gentlemen, if any, probably are paired already.
Why would it even matter that much who you're going to pair up with? It really only becomes a matter of preference of who to pair with.
And as ppl hardly ever prefer to pair with me over someone else (self-knowledge) I wouldn't be surprised at all if I'm the one left out again. Though if you prefer to pair with me over Kokichi then please do so, otherwise well I've enjoyed thithis nonetheless even tho I've never been a part in this.
This is still phoneposting from school. Maybe I can find some time now but not enough to make rewds on 8 ppl I guess, at least not with phoneposting.hi- Harambey180
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Like, do you guys really think that scum would take this risk of waiting until the end to pair up, thus with the chance of not getting paired at all?
I could townread Kokichi for this sole reason, and in general I still have a townread on him. Why should I thus push for it to pair with me instead of Kokichi if we both are Town? If I'd do that then I'd keep myself in it but because he will very likely flip Town, I will only become more of a suspect for pushing to not pair with him.
Thus, there is no point for me to beg for pairings with me instead of Kokichi. If Kokichi gets picked, I'll die and probably Kokichi won't be that much of a suspect in this situation. If I get picked I'll still die soon after for the reasons I gave here.
Why on earth would I thus defend myself or pressure Kokichi? That most likely makes for 2 Townies dead instead of one, and we're not even considering the one I'd get paired with. Double murder, no thank you, in the very likely case that Kokichi is Town, all I can do is to hope that they will favor me instead of Kokichi on nothing but personal preference cuz otherwise it'll be worse for Town (if I'd do anything to save myself)
Pretty much comes down to 'which Townie would I like more to pair up with' now. Therefore it would not surprise nor annoy me if I won't get picked.
Pick whoever you want but please don't give any reasons why you picked the one and not the other. In case Kokichi makes it, this is what I'd advice, basing your choice on something different than personal preferences harms more than it helps.hi- Harambey180
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Anyways what I explained earlier...
In my eyes the three gentlemen left (me, Kokichi, and obviously Anti) are all Town. I mean, just based on Kokichi's posts I already lean more Town on him. I already gave reasons for why there's most likely no scum left between us. The scum gentlemen are ought to have made sure already that they're in a pair. And the scum ladies, well they won't get eliminated now ofc so I don't have to talk about that.
Guys, it's up to you now to choose between me and Kokichi based on nothing, nothing but personal preference or whoever of the two you'd like to stay in. I gotta say I'm having some sort of tactic ready for the next phase when there are pairs, but I'm not gonna focus on improving that tactic if I don't even know if I'll make it there.
Pair with me if you think I'd fit Town better or if you'd like to pair with me.
Pair with Kokichi if you think he'd fit Town better or if you'd prefer to pair with Kokichi.
Please don't pair with either of us with the reason that one of us is less scummy than the other. Me and Kokichi are both Town fmpov (or scum made the riskiest strategy ever). No need to base your choice on scumminess level if the two of us both aren't or are most likely not scum, so don't. Just think who'd be the better Town player to pair up with and could help you more, or pick me (or Kokichi) if that's your preference or gut feeling. I won't push any of you two ladies left to pick me or to not pick Kokichi, as I said it's pointless and stupid.hi- Harambey180
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Like, only one of us needs to leave. We shouldn't make it happen that one of us leaves and therefore the other one is likely to get lynched shortly after. Get what I mean?
I can probably assure you guys that thinking about 'scumminess' and such things will result in unnecessary deaths most likely by mislynches in the next phase.
So just pick. We pretty much have nothing else to discuss right now, at least I don't. And if I leave, well good luck to all of you (especially GL to Town) have fun and try to play your best game (and for Town: hopefully win).hi- Harambey180
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No.In post 970, Gamma Emerald wrote:Reads please
Also you never responded to me when I said me pairing with Anti didn't make me obvscum because of the time I sent the request
Giving reads will influence your decision on who to pair with. Thus I'm not going to give reads at this moment.
And don't pair with Kokichi for the pure reason of me not giving reads. That is unnecessary suspicion as I said. Forget about who might be scum and who not because Anti, Kokichi and me are all three Town fmpov. If someone is scummy or not should not matter anymore at this point because it will be used against whoever does get picked as I mentioned.
Therefore if you pick Kokichi or me, who doesn't matter, don't say why or why not. Cuz when the person that doesn't get picked flips Town (which I'm convinced Kokichi would as well), it'll likely be seen as something. We don't need to make something out of nothing, know that phrase? That's the case here too.hi- Harambey180
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However as soon as you officially pair with Kokichi (or Anti) and at the moment that I will be the one left out, I'll give some reads cuz then that's all I can still do.
But I won't give them now cuz it will have impact on your choice and that is not what should happen. I explained why a few posts ago. Absolutely no point in confronting me with that, that's all I know and can assure/advice you.hi- Harambey180
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Don't pick me for a reason like that.In post 990, Gamma Emerald wrote:btw at this point I'd rather take Harambey than Kokichi since he seems to have a plan, and I want to see him implement it
Then pick Kokichi instead, if you're gonna make your choice depend on something.
All I ask from you is to just pick someone. Probably with the sole reason being 'gut feeling' I suppose? Or personal preference. But not a reason that's related to solving the game. 99% chance it will backfire.hi- Harambey180
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Even if you're not one of the two ladies that still have to make a choice I don't think it's that smart to give such straightforward opinions on me when there's a really considerable chance that I'll be the one that doesn't get picked.
That also can backfire easily. Better just keep those opinions for yourself and wait until after all pairs have been made to share what you want to say.
P-edit: beeboy all I can tell is that me and most likely also Kokichi are both town. Why would you even consider how scummy we are if that doesn't really matter any more. We're going to eliminate a Townie now, all this chat is unnecessary. Stahp it.
P-edit 2: Thread gets more active again. I'm out for now. Leave your choice, I'm not gonna do anything else up until the pairs have been chosen, then I'll see what I can still do.hi- Harambey180
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Not really. I'm pretty convinced that Kokichi is also Town. Why would I try and push people away from Kokichi and pair with me? Townie dies anyways. If I were to try and get 'em to pair me instead, when Kokichi indeed flips Town, it would only make me a suspect and whoever decided to pair up with me. With the very likely result that one of us (and thus the other if I understand the game mechanics well enough) will get lynched shortly after.In post 1006, Maki Harukawa wrote:harambey doesn't feel like scum trying to find a partner more so as he feels like town who's like "well no one wants me anyway so who gives a fuck"
he doesn't seem like he's trying to survive
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As I said previously, I only need to hope that some weirdo prefers to pair with me over Kokichi, and solely for preference, cuz any other reason is most likely gonna be turned to 'scum motive' by the actual scum.
That hope is very small though cuz I've found my spot in society already - that spot being somewhere in a corner where no one sees you or wants to go to. I just know that that is how I am.hi- Harambey180
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OK so now it's down to Gamma choosing me or Kokichi.
@GammaChoose which of us two you prefer to pair up with and don't give any other reasons besides this one please. Really, don't. Piece of advice I'd like to give ya.hi- Harambey180
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Any reason but 'personal preference/gut feeling' is one that I prefer not to see regardless of who it is in favor of. ty.In post 1027, Antihero wrote:
the pairs kind of are what they are. i was mostly trying to leave out scum predance but that was impossible bc ppl didn't care what i had to say anyway (want proof of that? go see what joey said in response when i said "no suiciding")In post 1021, Venmar wrote:also if you think this is me attacking/discrediting an ic, and that that is worth for me to pursue for any reason other than to allow me to work better with you by opening dialogue, then im sorry you view it that way.
gamma, plz take hamarabi.on the upside, you're probably an all town pair. unless he's getting coached in the scum PT i think he's oozing town and it makes the other guy is a better leave-out choice.
once the dance starts and the bullets start flying i think i'll get a better feel of kagami.
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NO IMPULSIVE SUICIDES THAT'S HOW SCUM WIN THIS SETUPhi- Harambey180
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Yup.In post 1034, Venmar wrote:^so seriously/personally is what i meant to say too btw, i'm inepthi- Harambey180
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So? Even if I were how would and should that matter... shouldn't. Said that already, not gonna repeat it. Look at it again yourself if you're interested in my thought process.In post 1040, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
nope he's trying hard to self presIn post 999, beeboy wrote:Harambey isn't trying at all to self pres I think he is town?
I'm trying to make y'all realize that you're assumably choosing between two Townies anyways. Idc if I get eliminated, idc if Kokichi gets eliminated. I do care about the way we get to that elimination though because that DOES have effect on the game. And that's a bad effect.
Telling ya just so you know this. This is how I see it. But tbh we really don'tneedto discuss anything about me or Kokichi right now. That should definitely happen after the choice is made though. Not now, saying what you think now has much more (negative) effects than saying it some time laterhi- Harambey180
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I pretty much already did that in the last post, though not directly answering your question.In post 1044, Gamma Emerald wrote:Haram please react to my last post please
I say that that's fair though.
When you take into consideration that Kokichi and me are 99% both Townies then you'll be able to make a good decision. On personal preference I hope, if we're not talking about scum/Town related stuff, then that's the only thing you should care about.hi- Harambey180
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In post 1048, Gamma Emerald wrote:
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Sir Harambey180,
Would you be the Sun Wukong to my Blake Belladonna,
And take me to the dance?
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Gamma Emerald
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accept Gamma
Pfft... don't know what to say of this. Maybe nothing.
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You're always town reading your own pair.In post 1056, beeboy wrote:I feel like I am awful at mafia.
I town read all the pairs people wanna kill lmao.
You basically say that you feel that people want to kill your pair cuz you town read your own pair.
Just pointing this out as 'remarkable'. Take the funny aspect of it.hi- Harambey180
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How ironically.In post 1057, beeboy wrote:Most of my reads are individual town reads scattered across a variety of pairs which is fucking worthless.
I hope Shiro towns super hard. Biggest ? for me atm.
Exactly the person who told me that I should have strategies... struggles with that aspect himself
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