Coin Payback III (Final Results)

JDGA · Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:32 pm

So here's a variant on the coin game.

Everyone starts with nine more coins than the number of players in the game. (8 players - 17 coins each, 21 players - 30 coins each, etc), and there are thirteen rounds in the game.
Each round, players spend some integer number of coins, and they're ranked against the other players, with those who spend more receiving the better rank. Then they receive a payback depending on their position - last place receives 10 coins, and each higher place receives one coin more in payback (so with eight players, 1st would receive 17 coins). If there's a tie, those involved in the tie receive the lower amount (and in a tie for last the amount paid will be reduced below 10 accordingly)

However, the goal is

not

to build up the most coins; instead it is to earn the most points over the thirteen rounds. Each round, players in (roughly) the top half of positions receive points, with 1st receiving the most (obviously). The point system will vary depending on the number of players in the game, but as an example, with 8 players the top four would receive points in a 9-6-3-1 fashion, or with 12 players it would be the top six in a 10-6-4-3-2-1 fashion. Again, if there is a tie, the players involved will receive points according to the lower position.

Example with 8 players wrote:Player A spends 15 coins, ranking 1st. He receives 17 coins in payback, along with 9 points.
Player B spends 14 coins, ranking 2nd. He receives 16 coins in payback, along with 6 points.
Player F and G both spend 12 coins, tying for 3rd. They receive 14 coins each in payback, along with 1 point (the score for 4th).
Player H spends 9 coins, ranking 5th. He receives 13 coins in payback, but no points.
Player D spends 6 coins, ranking 6th. He receives 12 coins in payback, but no points.
Player C and Player E both spend 0 coins, tying for last. They receive 9 coins each in payback (they tie for last, which reduces the last place payback), but no points.

It's also possible to send a default/fallback value to use in the future if you happen to not submit. You can express the value in an absolute number of coins, or a percentage of the total (which will be rounded down if necessary). If a player doesn't submit and doesn't have a fallback value, they won't participate in that round.

Final Standings:

Rank	Name	R01	R02	R03	R04	R05	R06	R07	R08	R09	R10	R11	R12	R13	Total
1	Cheery Dog	7	3	2		4	10		3			1	10	3	43
2	mallowgeno	10	4	4	2	3	3		2	3	2	2		5	40
3	Vijarada			10		5		4	1	4		5		7	36
4	Not_Mafia			3		10		10		5	3	3			34
5	StrangerCoug	5	5	7			4	5			5		2		33
6	Shadoweh	4	1	5	1	1	7	3		2	4	4			32
7	insanity018				7			7		10			5	2	31
8	Aurathebirb		10		3			2	7		1	7			30
9	Not Known 15				10		2		3	1	10		3		29
10	Gammagooey		7		4		5	1				10	1		28
11	Iconeum				5				10				7	4	26
12	Harambey180		2			2	1		5	5	5		4	1	25
13	Felissan					7								10	17

Spoiler: Previous Games

Spoiler: Historical Results

JDGA · Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:28 pm

One day left, we've got 13 players right now but there's room for more

JDGA · Post Post #18 (isolation #2) » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:18 pm

Alright, let's get things rolling!
With 13 players, we'll try rounding it up this time and giving points to the top 7 in a 10-7-5-4-3-2-1 distribution.
Everyone starts with 22 coins and untied 1st will also award 22. It goes down from there to 10 for untied last.

Round 1 starts now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-19 12:30:00). It is recommended that you set a fallback value along with your regular submission, in case you forget to submit in a future round.

JDGA · Post Post #19 (isolation #3) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:54 pm

Round 1 Result

Only four players try to spend high so they gain some big points, with mallowgeno claiming the win for being the only one to go all-in. Everyone else elects to spend either 1, 2, or 3 coins, resulting in a lot of ties - but the four who spent 3 each go +12. (Too bad spending 4 would have been +14 and 3 points)

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	mallowgeno	10	22	22	0
2	Cheery Dog	7	19	21	2
3	StrangerCoug	5	18	20	2
4	Shadoweh	4	17	19	2
8	Aurathebirb	0	3	15	12
8	Felissan	0	3	15	12
8	Gammagooey	0	3	15	12
8	Vijarada	0	3	15	12
11	Iconeum	0	2	12	10
11	Not Known 15	0	2	12	10
11	Not_Mafia	0	2	12	10
13	Harambey180	0	1	9	8
13	insanity018	0	1	9	8

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	mallowgeno	10	22
2	Cheery Dog	7	24
3	StrangerCoug	5	24
4	Shadoweh	4	24
8	Aurathebirb	0	34
8	Felissan	0	34
8	Gammagooey	0	34
8	Vijarada	0	34
11	Iconeum	0	32
11	Not Known 15	0	32
11	Not_Mafia	0	32
13	Harambey180	0	30
13	insanity018	0	30

Round 2 starts now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-20 20:00:00).

JDGA · Post Post #21 (isolation #4) » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:20 pm

Round 2 Result

Again only four players attempt to spend high, with Aurathebirb claiming top spot over Gammagooey by one coin. Further down things are far more spread out though, allowing Cheery Dog, Harambey180, and Shadoweh to all gain points while going +11. Iconeum manages to find the sweet spot to go +12, however.
There was one fallback value used in this round.

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Aurathebirb	10	26	22	-4
2	Gammagooey	7	25	21	-4
3	StrangerCoug	5	23	20	-3
4	mallowgeno	4	22	19	-3
5	Cheery Dog	3	7	18	11
6	Harambey180	2	6	17	11
7	Shadoweh	1	5	16	11
8	Iconeum	0	3	15	12
10	insanity018	0	2	13	11
10	Vijarada	0	2	13	11
11	Felissan	0	1	12	11
13	Not Known 15	0	0	9	9
13	Not_Mafia	0	0	9	9

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	mallowgeno	14	19
2	Cheery Dog	10	35
3	Aurathebirb	10	30
4	StrangerCoug	10	21
5	Gammagooey	7	30
6	Shadoweh	5	35
7	Harambey180	2	41
9	Felissan	0	45
9	Vijarada	0	45
10	Iconeum	0	44
13	insanity018	0	41
13	Not Known 15	0	41
13	Not_Mafia	0	41

Round 3 starts now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-23 11:30:00).

JDGA · Post Post #23 (isolation #5) » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:48 pm

Round 3 Result

Again only four players go high, with Vijarada spending 37 to claim the win - but second place was claimed with only 21 coins. Below that there's a lot of players trying to balance saving coins with scoring points - and a three-way-tie on 4 coins prevents anyone from taking the final point in this round. However, those three players were the only ones to achieve +10 this round.
One fallback value was used in this round.

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Vijarada	10	37	22	-15
2	StrangerCoug	7	21	21	0
3	Shadoweh	5	20	20	0
4	mallowgeno	4	19	19	0
5	Not_Mafia	3	9	18	9
6	Cheery Dog	2	8	17	9
9	Harambey180	0	4	14	10
9	Iconeum	0	4	14	10
9	Not Known 15	0	4	14	10
11	Gammagooey	0	3	12	9
11	insanity018	0	3	12	9
12	Aurathebirb	0	2	11	9
13	Felissan	0	1	10	9

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	mallowgeno	18	19
2	StrangerCoug	17	21
3	Cheery Dog	12	44
4	Aurathebirb	10	39
5	Shadoweh	10	35
6	Vijarada	10	30
7	Gammagooey	7	39
8	Not_Mafia	3	50
9	Harambey180	2	51
11	Felissan	0	54
11	Iconeum	0	54
12	Not Known 15	0	51
13	insanity018	0	50

Round 4 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-25 18:00:00).

JDGA · Post Post #24 (isolation #6) » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:44 pm

Round 4 Result

Seven players spend double digits, so no points for the super savers this time. Not Known 15 goes all-in with a huge 51 coins to secure the win this time around, while insanity018 goes 45 and Iconeum 40 to clean up the podium. From there there's a big drop to the minor point places, with 7th being claimed by Shadoweh at 10 coins. Of the savers Vijarada is the only one to go +10, as there's a tie for last on 0.

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Not Known 15	10	51	22	-29
2	insanity018	7	45	21	-24
3	Iconeum	5	40	20	-20
4	Gammagooey	4	27	19	-8
5	Aurathebirb	3	23	18	-5
6	mallowgeno	2	19	17	-2
7	Shadoweh	1	10	16	6
8	Harambey180	0	7	15	8
10	Cheery Dog	0	6	13	7
10	Not_Mafia	0	6	13	7
11	Vijarada	0	2	12	10
13	Felissan	0	0	9	9
13	StrangerCoug	0	0	9	9

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	mallowgeno	20	17
2	StrangerCoug	17	30
3	Aurathebirb	13	34
4	Cheery Dog	12	51
5	Shadoweh	11	41
6	Gammagooey	11	31
7	Vijarada	10	40
8	Not Known 15	10	22
9	insanity018	7	26
10	Iconeum	5	34
11	Not_Mafia	3	57
12	Harambey180	2	59
13	Felissan	0	63

Round 5 starts now, and ends in (expired on 2018-02-27 12:00:00).

JDGA · Post Post #25 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:07 pm

Round 5 Result

Three big spenders at the top this round, with Not_Mafia claiming the win by a single coin. Then four more in the mid-range, all of whom secure points. A pretty average round, all things considered.

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Not_Mafia	10	43	22	-21
2	Felissan	7	42	21	-21
3	Vijarada	5	34	20	-14
4	Cheery Dog	4	20	19	-1
5	mallowgeno	3	17	18	1
6	Harambey180	2	13	17	4
7	Shadoweh	1	10	16	6
9	Aurathebirb	0	4	14	10
9	Iconeum	0	4	14	10
11	insanity018	0	3	12	9
11	StrangerCoug	0	3	12	9
12	Gammagooey	0	2	11	9
13	Not Known 15	0	1	10	9

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	mallowgeno	23	18
2	StrangerCoug	17	39
3	Cheery Dog	16	50
4	Vijarada	15	26
5	Aurathebirb	13	44
6	Not_Mafia	13	36
7	Shadoweh	12	47
8	Gammagooey	11	40
9	Not Known 15	10	31
10	Felissan	7	42
11	insanity018	7	35
12	Iconeum	5	44
13	Harambey180	4	63

Round 6 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-03-01 13:00:00).

JDGA · Post Post #26 (isolation #8) » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:19 am

Round 6 Result

No summary this round, but we have a lead change for the first time all game.
One fallback value used in this round.

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Cheery Dog	10	45	22	-23
2	Shadoweh	7	35	21	-14
3	Gammagooey	5	33	20	-13
4	StrangerCoug	4	20	19	-1
5	mallowgeno	3	18	18	0
6	Not Known 15	2	10	17	7
7	Harambey180	1	9	16	7
9	Aurathebirb	0	5	14	9
9	Iconeum	0	5	14	9
11	insanity018	0	3	12	9
11	Not_Mafia	0	3	12	9
12	Vijarada	0	2	11	9
13	Felissan	0	1	10	9

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	Cheery Dog	26	27
2	mallowgeno	26	18
3	StrangerCoug	21	38
4	Shadoweh	19	33
5	Gammagooey	16	27
6	Vijarada	15	35
7	Aurathebirb	13	53
8	Not_Mafia	13	45
9	Not Known 15	12	38
10	Felissan	7	51
11	insanity018	7	44
12	Harambey180	5	70
13	Iconeum	5	53

Round 7 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-03-04 09:30:00).

JDGA · Post Post #27 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:17 pm

Round 7 Result

OH DEAR... OH DEAR... OH DEAR...
(two fallback values)

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Not_Mafia	10	45	22	-23
2	insanity018	7	41	21	-20
3	StrangerCoug	5	38	20	-18
4	Vijarada	4	35	19	-16
5	Shadoweh	3	33	18	-15
6	Aurathebirb	2	32	17	-15
7	Gammagooey	1	26	16	-10
8	Iconeum	0	25	15	-10
9	mallowgeno	0	18	14	-4
10	Harambey180	0	14	13	-1
11	Not Known 15	0	10	12	2
12	Cheery Dog	0	6	11	5
13	Felissan	0	1	10	9

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	Cheery Dog	26	32
2	StrangerCoug	26	20
3	mallowgeno	26	14
4	Not_Mafia	23	22
5	Shadoweh	22	18
6	Vijarada	19	19
7	Gammagooey	17	17
8	Aurathebirb	15	38
9	insanity018	14	24
10	Not Known 15	12	40
11	Felissan	7	60
12	Harambey180	5	69
13	Iconeum	5	43

Round 8 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-03-06 15:30:00).

JDGA · Post Post #28 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:28 pm

Round 8 Result

This round was a little more restrained than last, allowing Vijarada to pick up a point after spending a mere 6 coins. A fairly average round overall, but the endgame beckons... every point is vital.
One fallback value used this round.

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Iconeum	10	43	22	-21
2	Aurathebirb	7	34	21	-13
3	Harambey180	5	28	20	-8
5	Cheery Dog	3	25	18	-7
5	Not Known 15	3	25	18	-7
6	mallowgeno	2	14	17	3
7	Vijarada	1	6	16	10
8	Not_Mafia	0	4	15	11
9	insanity018	0	3	14	11
11	Gammagooey	0	2	12	10
11	StrangerCoug	0	2	12	10
12	Felissan	0	1	11	10
13	Shadoweh	0	0	10	10

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	Cheery Dog	29	25
2	mallowgeno	28	17
3	StrangerCoug	26	30
4	Not_Mafia	23	33
5	Shadoweh	22	28
6	Aurathebirb	22	25
7	Vijarada	20	29
8	Gammagooey	17	27
9	Not Known 15	15	33
10	Iconeum	15	22
11	insanity018	14	35
12	Harambey180	10	61
13	Felissan	7	70

Round 9 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-03-08 17:30:00).

JDGA · Post Post #29 (isolation #11) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:06 pm

Round 9 Result

Fewer people bidding high in this low-spending round allows Not Known 15 to collect a point on 8 coins, ahead of a three-way tie on 7. Speaking of ties, 2nd place is split between Harambey180 and Not_Mafia on 31. Our three lowest spenders all go +10.
(One fallback value)

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	insanity018	10	34	22	-12
3	Harambey180	5	31	20	-11
3	Not_Mafia	5	31	20	-11
4	Vijarada	4	29	19	-10
5	mallowgeno	3	17	18	1
6	Shadoweh	2	10	17	7
7	Not Known 15	1	8	16	8
10	Aurathebirb	0	7	13	6
10	Cheery Dog	0	7	13	6
10	Iconeum	0	7	13	6
11	Gammagooey	0	2	12	10
12	Felissan	0	1	11	10
13	StrangerCoug	0	0	10	10

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	mallowgeno	31	18
2	Cheery Dog	29	31
3	Not_Mafia	28	22
4	StrangerCoug	26	40
5	Shadoweh	24	35
6	insanity018	24	23
7	Vijarada	24	19
8	Aurathebirb	22	31
9	Gammagooey	17	37
10	Not Known 15	16	41
11	Harambey180	15	50
12	iconeum	15	28
13	Felissan	7	80

mallowgeno retakes the lead, but it's very close and with only three rounds left it seems unlikely that he'll be able to keep it.
Round 10 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-03-11 12:00:00).

JDGA · Post Post #34 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:01 pm

Round 10 Result

This round was marked by another second-place tie, this time between Harambey180 and StrangerCoug. Not Known 15 went all in with 41 coins, beating them both by a single coin to take ten points. Below that the round was a fairly average one, with everyone spending double digits being rewarded for their effort and everyone who didn't going either +9 or (in Iconeum's case) +10.
Two fallback values in this round.

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Not Known 15	10	41	22	-19
3	Harambey180	5	40	20	-20
3	StrangerCoug	5	40	20	-20
4	Shadoweh	4	35	19	-16
5	Not_Mafia	3	22	18	-4
6	mallowgeno	2	18	17	-1
7	Aurathebirb	1	13	16	3
8	Iconeum	0	5	15	10
10	Cheery Dog	0	4	13	9
10	Vijarada	0	4	13	9
11	insanity018	0	3	12	9
12	Gammagooey	0	2	11	9
13	Felissan	0	1	10	9

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	mallowgeno	33	17
2	StrangerCoug	31	20
3	Not_Mafia	31	18
4	Cheery Dog	29	40
5	Shadoweh	28	19
6	Not Known 15	26	22
7	insanity018	24	32
8	Vijarada	24	28
9	Aurathebirb	23	34
10	Harambey180	20	30
11	Gammagooey	17	46
12	Iconeum	15	38
13	Felissan	7	89

Three rounds left. Round 11 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-03-14 15:00:00).

JDGA · Post Post #37 (isolation #13) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:42 pm

Round 11 Result

Just three big spenders in this round, with Gammagooey spending 40 coins to claim the win. Then three more in the middle, separated by only one coin each, allowing Cheery Dog to score a point with just 8 coins. No ties this round, allowing the five lowest to all go +10.
(One fallback value, surprise)

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Gammagooey	10	40	22	-18
2	Aurathebirb	7	33	21	-12
3	Vijarada	5	28	20	-8
4	Shadoweh	4	19	19	0
5	Not_Mafia	3	18	18	0
6	mallowgeno	2	17	17	0
7	Cheery Dog	1	8	16	8
8	Iconeum	0	6	15	9
9	StrangerCoug	0	4	14	10
10	insanity018	0	3	13	10
11	Not Known 15	0	2	12	10
12	Felissan	0	1	11	10
13	Harambey180	0	0	10	10

Current Standings

Rank	Name	Points	Coins
1	mallowgeno	35	17
2	Not_Mafia	34	18
3	Shadoweh	32	19
4	StrangerCoug	31	30
5	Cheery Dog	30	48
6	Aurathebirb	30	22
7	Vijarada	29	20
8	Gammagooey	27	28
9	Not Known 15	26	32
10	insanity018	24	42
11	Harambey180	20	40
12	Iconeum	15	47
13	Felissan	7	99

Here we go, time for the final submission. Round 12 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2018-03-16 16:00:00). Round 13 will take place immediately after, where everyone will automatically spend their remaining coins.

JDGA · Post Post #42 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:43 am

I think it depends a lot on the meta of the game - the early rounds had very few players spending heavily, and that allowed you to get quite a few early points. For the most part, I'd say that such a strategy tends to fall apart as soon as there's a high-spending round, and it takes very little effort to exploit it.

JDGA · Post Post #44 (isolation #15) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:34 pm

Round 12 Result

One fallback value.

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent	Coin Payback	Profit
1	Cheery Dog	10	48	22	-26
2	Iconeum	7	43	21	-22
3	insanity018	5	42	20	-22
4	Harambey180	4	40	19	-21
5	Not Known 15	3	32	18	-14
6	StrangerCoug	2	30	17	-13
7	Gammagooey	1	26	16	-10
8	Aurathebirb	0	22	15	-7
9	Shadoweh	0	19	14	-5
10	Not_Mafia	0	18	13	-5
12	Felissan	0	1	11	10
12	Vijarada	0	1	11	10
13	mallowgeno	0	0	10	10

JDGA · Post Post #45 (isolation #16) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:34 pm

Round 13 Result

Rank	Name	Points	Coins Spent
1	Felissan	10	109
2	Vijarada	7	30
3	mallowgeno	5	27
4	Iconeum	4	25
5	Cheery Dog	3	22
6	insanity018	2	20
7	Harambey180	1	19
9	Gammagooey	0	18
9	Not Known 15	0	18
10	StrangerCoug	0	17
11	Aurathebirb	0	15
12	Shadoweh	0	14
13	Not_Mafia	0	13

JDGA · Post Post #46 (isolation #17) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:36 pm

Final Standings

Rank	Name	R01	R02	R03	R04	R05	R06	R07	R08	R09	R10	R11	R12	R13	Total
1	Cheery Dog	7	3	2		4	10		3			1	10	3	43
2	mallowgeno	10	4	4	2	3	3		2	3	2	2		5	40
3	Vijarada			10		5		4	1	4		5		7	36
4	Not_Mafia			3		10		10		5	3	3			34
5	StrangerCoug	5	5	7			4	5			5		2		33
6	Shadoweh	4	1	5	1	1	7	3		2	4	4			32
7	insanity018				7			7		10			5	2	31
8	Aurathebirb		10		3			2	7		1	7			30
9	Not Known 15				10		2		3	1	10		3		29
10	Gammagooey		7		4		5	1				10	1		28
11	Iconeum				5				10				7	4	26
12	Harambey180		2			2	1		5	5	5		4	1	25
13	Felissan					7								10	17

Congratulations to Cheery Dog! Very interesting game with quite the variety of strategies used. Thanks to everyone for playing, if you've got any feedback for Game 4 let me know!

JDGA · Post Post #51 (isolation #18) » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:17 pm

Yeah, the fallback value was Felissan, not much could be done about that one. (I'll try to do something to keep it from getting that far out of hand in future)
There's definitely a bit of a learning curve, and I'm hoping we get a good playercount again next time.

JDGA · Post Post #59 (isolation #19) » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:19 pm

New thread is up!