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Agreeing with Thor that the content profii is producing doesn't feel town. I especially dislike his push on rb, I didn't see anything alignment-indicative in what he said. 25 feels forced and as if he is trying to generate content. I'm fairly certain that of the people he mentioned, most are town and 1-2 are his buddies. Also not sure why he's trying so hard to breadcrumb his alignment/role this early.
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FL is scum for random voting me, or I'm scum for asking him why? Asking for an explanation for a vote on me is NAI, I always do that.
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The only posts I made between this
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Were these
He never answered my question in 57, and I don't think either of those posts would be (or should be) enough to move me out of scum territory if that's how he was reading me. (He also forgot me completely in the second readslist, but I'm interpreting the fact that he changed his vote from me to eth0s, and the fact that he had only eth0s in the scum category the second time, as him changing his SR of me.)In post 71, Lalendra wrote:FL is scum for random voting me, or I'm scum for asking him why? Asking for an explanation for a vote on me is NAI, I always do that.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing, it's kind of my only misgiving about FL being scum right now - he's a better player than this as scum. But, he also tends to get onto stylistic tangents like this and eventually comes around if he gets mad enough, or if town is dumb enough. (I guess those two are basically the same lol)In post 89, acryon wrote:
Putting a giant target on his head by not posting a single original comment. Best-case scenario he looks like unhelpful town which often end up being lynch-worthy.In post 88, Sauce wrote:
Reckless how?In post 87, acryon wrote:I can't imagine scum playing this recklessly so I'm not going to endorse any vote there.-
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Like I said, I have a hard time reading Sauce and my last game wanted to deathtunnel him when he was town, largely because of his posting style. So I'm null there for now until I'm able to develop a better read. However, the way FL is playing right now is very different from both his town and scum games, so I'm honestly not sure what he's up to. But he tends to be pretty passionate as town and we haven't seen that yet, maybe just because it's still so early.In post 172, Thor665 wrote:Do you see Saucetown?
Also, why do you see Flavour as scum and not Sauce? They're basically both doing the same thing (posting garbage in a gimmick way) but at least Flavour's garbage is generally readable and more game related, no?-
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I don't have strong enough reads at the moment to be offensive (heh). But when I get there, you'll know.In post 188, profii wrote:Lalendra is playing defense. I'd like to see her offense.-
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HI SAUCEIn post 236, Sauce wrote:
LALIn post 214, rb wrote:Lalendra's is also the saddest thing ever
Lalendra is obviously happy, just look at that delightful '(heh)'.In post 204, Lalendra wrote:I don't have strong enough reads at the moment to be offensive (heh).
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That would be a fairly obvious scumtell, one that scum would be silly to make. Also I don't generally go back and read completed games, particularly if they are linked by the person in question; someone who is aware of their meta can easily manipulate it so it doesn't give me any information. That's why I asked about setup-related reasons and wanted to hear from someone other than FL himself.In post 248, profii wrote:In post 244, Lalendra wrote:Is there any flavor-related reason why FL might be posting the way he is?
Acryon - given I mentioned this and you gave the same answer. (Approx post 90ish) It stands to reason that Lalendra isn’t reading the thread in any great detail (confirmed by a distinct lack of offense)In post 245, acryon wrote:
I don't think so. See 100 from him.In post 244, Lalendra wrote:Is there any flavor-related reason why FL might be posting the way he is?
Do you think this lack of attention could be down to being scum and knowing who the scum are?
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It's easy to focus on two players when one of them has a distinct posting style that is drawing attention to themselves, and the other (who I guess also has a distinct posting style) is engaged in a 1v1 with someone which looks fairly pointless to me, but generated a lot of content.In post 249, acryon wrote:Possible. The thing I have issue with for Lalendra is the overall content. Outside of their first few posts, every post has been about FL or Sauce. For Sauce, it's sort of pushing people away from him as scum, and for FL it's an internal struggle about whether his playstyle is scum or NAI.
If you're curious about my other reads, I think you are town. Jury is out on profii. I don't like dunkerdoodle's and rb's style of posting but don't know that it is NAI. Plus I am not overly familiar with the flavor so I have to step back a little from my normal way of reading people and take into account any setup info which may influence playstyle.-
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EBWOPIn post 253, Lalendra wrote:don't know that it is AI-
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I guess I'm not clear on the difference between a theme game (which acryon pointed out this isn't, in 91) and one with flavor like this. Maybe I'm just getting caught up in semantics.In post 255, profii wrote:I’m not asking you to read other games but I was pointing out you had missed this here 90-
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Pun game on point, profii is locktown.In post 287, profii wrote:Well that choice of language was... saucy-
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Nothing specific, mainly the fact that they are now posting game-related content and I can follow and understand the thought progression behind their posts.In post 347, acryon wrote:
Which posts by them have made you feel better?In post 346, Lalendra wrote:Feeling a lot better about both eth0s and dunker in light of recent posts.-
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I think at the moment, I'm leaning towards dunkerdoodles, hyung and either Thor or Sauce. Dunkerdoodles because I haven't seen much meaningful content from them, and they are getting townread by people for what seems like very little to no reason. Hyung because they haven't posted enough for me to really get a read on them and partly PoE. Thor/Sauce because I don't believe this is scum theater or TvT, it feels like it's genuine, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which one is town and which one is scum who is spitballing.-
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I had a hard time telling who was being genuine in the Thor v. Sauce exchange, but this latest Acryon v. Sauce feels like he is doing exactly what he is accusing Acryon of doing - gaslighting, being accusatory, calling people's intelligence or psychological state into question, and refusing to let things go after the answer has already been made clear. Scum aren't usually this aggressive but something about all of this just feels off to me.-
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In post 393, rb wrote:I'm not even trolling Sauce, he trolls himself.-
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That might be it - high post count, defensiveness, aggressiveness and condescension, without any real scum hunting.In post 394, Thor665 wrote:And, actually, my trolling only really lasted for about two or so posts when you were spouting off like a jackass.
I'm much more 'meh' on you now that I realize you never say anything.
The whole wall with Acronyn, numbers notwithstanding, was basically just you going 'you're stupid' at him over and over. There's nothing behind you, and you haven't even made one read outside of deciding who is or is not stupid the entire game. If you're town, you're playing in a way I suggest is poor. If you're scum, your play is wonderful - but I'm going to lynch you for it.-
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In post 411, Flavor Leaf wrote:Lalendra is her usual mislynch self.FlavorLeaf-
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I'm still laughing at thisIn post 418, profii wrote:Woah we’re half way here, woooahhh, we should probably check the vote count-
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What makes you say that? And why would you say "cc pr" in the post immediately before this one, and then not claim? You do realize that "counterclaim" is a compound noun which hinges on the word "claim", right?In post 429, Dunkerdoodles wrote:tbf boon flavor probably vt or scum not pr-
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Yeah I wasn't buying the third-party thing until I saw this, which fortunately was only about four posts downIn post 438, rb wrote:
and yeah this is a 3rd party claimIn post 436, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I’m SK third party, I’ll help you guys out and kill scum. Leash me.-
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Right, and I also admitted that I was wrong not to townread you. Then again, here you haven't asked me to townread you, so by your logic does that mean I shouldn't be, if the asking is so important?In post 461, Sauce wrote:
In my previous game I told you to townread me, and you refused.In post 456, Lalendra wrote:Last game I had with him he was town, and I wanted to lynch him for playstyle, but he was also death tunneling someone by this point. I'm not really seeing that here.
Not impressive :/In post 457, Lalendra wrote:In post 411, Flavor Leaf wrote:Lalendra is her usual mislynch self.FlavorLeaf
And for the second, I wasn't trying to be impressive, I was being funny. Lighten up.-
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I already said what makes me uncomfortable. You haven't tunneled anyone yet, you're just lashing out at town as a whole. Also, I didn't use meta before because it was my first game with you, sooooIn post 475, Sauce wrote:
I don't think you have, until now. Is it wise to scour for logic where there was no intent to produce it, nor defy it? I don't remember you relying so heavily on meta in our previous game. Last game you voted me because I made you uncomfortable with analyzing your Maxous vote. What makes you uncomfortable in this game?In post 463, Lalendra wrote: Right, and I also admitted that I was wrong not to townread you. Then again, here you haven't asked me to townread you, so by your logic does that mean I shouldn't be, if the asking is so important?
@FL Your read on Lalendra is meta and she jokingly approves. I don't like that because why should meta be anything more or less than lube to get discussion going? Since you obviously don't want to retort in a verbal way (perhaps subject to change?) how could your meta read on her spark discussion, or help town in any other way totally devoid of the sense I interpret it has?
And FL is not the only person who has called me lynchbait. It's fairly well-known that I get mislynched a looooot.-
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I'm down with this for now, I have a pretty solid profii townread. You I'm feeling much better about now that you're using full sentencesIn post 494, Flavor Leaf wrote:Profii/Lalendra, we need to group up and move our votes as one from now on. Town blocking this up.-
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No concerns about acryon. I'm pretty comfortable with his towniness and not worried that Sauce is also TRing him. I'm not generally a player who freaks out when I'm on the same target as someone I scumread because while I know they could be trying to mislynch, they could also be trying to bus or distance. FL seems p damn sure that rb and/or dunker are scum, and I was already uncomfortable with dunker, so if one of them is scum I think it's him. I agree with FL's town read of Thor too, I never really had him as a scumlean. I simply don't agree with his SR of eth0s, plus since I SR Sauce now, it makes my eth0s TR stronger. This is also D1, pre-flip, but that's where I'm at now.In post 495, profii wrote:Lalendra = Acryon has saucy as scum, you have him as town as well as saucy. Concerns? Any thoughts on Rb and his town read of Dunker? What about Flavors town read of Thor? Saucy also scum reads eth0s but you have him on a town lean.-
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I am willing to go with the FL lynch. I have a hard time reading him but something about his play does strike me as very off this game, and if nothing else I'd be considering a PL on him because I don't like the waffly claims and seemingly intentional confusion, as rb mentioned.
Intent to Hammer: FL
I'll give it a couple hours but not going to wait forever so if anyone has any reaaaaaally good arguments, now is the time.-
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Um, how?In post 643, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
ftr basically a scumclaimIn post 641, Lalendra wrote:Quickhammer without waiting for a claim is normally something I really dislike, but considering that we're not likely to get any more information out of him than we have already (at least, not usable information), I kind of feel like this is an exception.
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Still trying to understand this. How is me saying "what you did was scummy, fortunately in this instance I don't think it hurt us, but I still find YOU to be scummy" a scumclaim on my part? I am feeling worse about your slot every time you post. And I don't necessarily buy the "obviously my hammer was fake" comment when you posted it after profii's corrected vote count.In post 643, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
ftr basically a scumclaimIn post 641, Lalendra wrote:Quickhammer without waiting for a claim is normally something I really dislike, but considering that we're not likely to get any more information out of him than we have already (at least, not usable information), I kind of feel like this is an exception.
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Honestly that's kind of why I'm scumreading you, because you'd be so far off the rails right now if you were getting D1 mislynched.In post 658, Flavor Leaf wrote:For future reference, I AtE MUCH more as town. When I’m scum, I’m generally town read early game.-
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So a mistake is a scumclaim...gotcha.In post 650, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
also this is wolfy toneIn post 648, Lalendra wrote:
Still trying to understand this. How is me saying "what you did was scummy, fortunately in this instance I don't think it hurt us, but I still find YOU to be scummy" a scumclaim on my part? I am feeling worse about your slot every time you post. And I don't necessarily buy the "obviously my hammer was fake" comment when you posted it after profii's corrected vote count.In post 643, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
ftr basically a scumclaimIn post 641, Lalendra wrote:Quickhammer without waiting for a claim is normally something I really dislike, but considering that we're not likely to get any more information out of him than we have already (at least, not usable information), I kind of feel like this is an exception.
Still think you're kinda scummy tho.
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Here's the game I was referring to:In post 710, Thor665 wrote:Sauce was doing it long before he had any reason to feel attacked or put upon though.
It does sound like maybe it's semi-meta if you listen to whoever it was that has played with him before, but judging by some of the very mild effort he has advanced, I'm suspicious this game is far more toxic than his norm, and even if it's not then we have to accept that this is town standard for him, in which case Day 1 is the optimal time for town to sort that because it would be daft to take him to lylo.
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I just went back and looked and it does seem like he is being a bit more aggressive here than he was in that game, but I'll leave it to you to make your own assessment.-
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I remembered there being more aggression in that game than there was when I went back and read. It mostly stemmed from his way of dividing people into male/female in his readslist and the way people reacted to it. I thought it was weird and mildly offensive but not necessarily scum-driven, it was other things he said that led me to scumread him, which I apparently was wrong about. His play in this game is MUCH more aggressive, I would have to go back and re-read both games to identify where it started, what the trigger was, and whether there was anything similar in 704.In post 727, Thor665 wrote:In post 726, Lalendra wrote:
In post 710, Thor665 wrote:
Sauce was doing it long before he had any reason to feel attacked or put upon though.
It does sound like maybe it's semi-meta if you listen to whoever it was that has played with him before, but judging by some of the very mild effort he has advanced, I'm suspicious this game is far more toxic than his norm, and even if it's not then we have to accept that this is town standard for him, in which case Day 1 is the optimal time for town to sort that because it would be daft to take him to lylo.
Here's the game I was referring to:
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I just went back and looked and it does seem like he is being a bit more aggressive here than he was in that game, but I'll leave it to you to make your own assessment.
Went over that iso really fast and here are things I noted;
1. Short content minded posts.
2. Only really noted one serious insult fest calling someone a manchild.
3. Did not dwell on calling everyone stupid - in fact a ctrl+F of smart, dumb, stupid, intelligent basically came back with almost nothing.
He was either super relaxed that game and decided to be a trolly jerk in this game, or for some reason somebody massively set him off (I personally feel he attacked me ages before I started poking at him and have the same recall for the acronym interaction - feel free to fact check me)
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Sauce, I understand that you don't like Thor, but honestly, if you're town you're going about this the wrong way. It's really hard to be on your side when you're being so aggressively douchey. Like really, if you're town re-evaluate, and if you're scum then you should feel guilty about bullying people into believing you, that's not what the game is about.-
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No, I want you to play and use logic instead of just bullying people into buying your point of view. Talk to me for a moment and ignore Thor - why should we view you as town? What are your reads at the moment? How do you feel about Jodaxq's replace-in, dunker's "badvotes" and generally detached posting style, eth0s's nipple clamps or whatever they are, and profii in general? I'm especially interested in your thoughts on profii because I'm having trouble sorting that slot.-
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In post 760, Sauce wrote:
I feel sleepyIn post 756, Lalendra wrote:No, I want you to play and use logic instead of just bullying people into buying your point of view. Talk to me for a moment and ignore Thor - why should we view you as town? What are your reads at the moment? How do you feel about Jodaxq's replace-in, dunker's "badvotes" and generally detached posting style, eth0s's nipple clamps or whatever they are, and profii in general? I'm especially interested in your thoughts on profii because I'm having trouble sorting that slot.-
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Okay I have to know.In post 765, Sauce wrote:No I mean I'm sleepy from all the red markings on my scum locus -approximation sensor data screen. Commodore is down for maintenance but I've drawn a sketch for youSpoiler: spectrum estimation
Clearly your post shows signs of withheld awareness, agenda-infused and opportunistic awareness revelation timing and towngame meta discrepancy, and red makes me doze off almost instantly when I'm tipsy. But one thing that doesn't change regardless of my level of inebriation .. you should know about me is, I'd never lynch you, my love <3
1) Withheld awareness - this one speaks for itself, if I was scum I would KNOW who was town so I assume this is what you're referring to.
2) Agenda-infused and opportunistic awareness revelation timing - What? What "awareness revelation" did I give in my post?
3) Towngame meta discrepancy - Do you think my game here is substantially different than my game in 704? If so how? Because I'm not seeing it.
4) <3-
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