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Post Post #222 (isolation #0) » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:46 am

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In post 220, pisskop wrote:Is 5 worth playing without its DLC now?

I stopped back when the Inca were new; when Scarchers ruled the world, a single properly promoted Legionnaire could Kill an empire, and human cities were neigh untake-able.

They've done a lot of balance fixes, however it's still better to get BNW.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #1) » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:46 am

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In post 221, Nexus wrote:To be fair, the DLC is on sale a lot.

I really hate religion in the game. If you get it, you can rofl stomp, if you don't get it, then it's just an irritant.

I love religion, online it causes war an the AI hate you for it. It's hilarious.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #2) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:56 am

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Maestro, the AI gets given a boost to points on harder levels, building wonders and cities is also a good way to rack up points. Founding a religion is another.
However points aren't really a good indicative of who's really winning, a small civ like polynesia/venice won't have many point but will still easily get away with a victory (Culture for Polynesia and Diplomatic for Venice.).
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Post Post #235 (isolation #3) » Fri May 22, 2015 8:36 am

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I play it.
I've finally mastered Diety as Austria for Diplo, Assyria for Domination, Babylon for Science and Polynesia for Culture.
Trying the others now.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #4) » Fri May 22, 2015 7:43 pm

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It's not too hard with to win BNW culture diety with polynesia, it basically consists of sitting around making easter islands heads (1 culture and gain +1 culture for each other one in a tile next to it, so you can get +4 culture tiles if lucky. They also give the same amount of gold as culture with the flight tech) and then stream-lining to hotels and the sorts to convert all the culture earned into tourism.
Also build a decent army to not look like a snack to the AI and you're set.
It's also really easy to discover the whole map early game as them as all their units start with the deep/shallow water sailing promotion because of their UA.
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Post Post #241 (isolation #5) » Wed May 27, 2015 3:15 am

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Interest
Not this weekend though
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Post Post #247 (isolation #6) » Sat May 30, 2015 7:03 pm

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BNW's Ideology is a really good mechanic, as well as the caravans. It's worth getting it :]
But I can play with any, besides scrambled map scripts:
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Post Post #250 (isolation #7) » Sun May 31, 2015 4:09 am

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Is there a MS steam group?
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Post Post #255 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:52 am

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Anyone up for a game now?
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Post Post #257 (isolation #9) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:17 pm

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Who's free next weekend?
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Post Post #259 (isolation #10) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:20 am

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The Hague (Netherlands) Saturday, 13 June 2015, 10:00:00 CEST UTC+2 hours
UTC (Time Zone) Saturday, 13 June 2015, 08:00:00 UTC
Phoenix (U.S.A. - Arizona) Saturday, 13 June 2015, 01:00:00 MST UTC-7 hours
Hobart (Australia - Tasmania) Saturday, 13 June 2015, 18:00:00 AEST UTC+10 hours

Anyone besides Nero free sometime after the above tommorow?
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Post Post #270 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:37 pm

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Isn't there an MS civ steam group?
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Post Post #283 (isolation #12) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:04 am

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Steamroll the celts.
Or just really make the world hate them diplomatically.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:58 pm

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my steam name is wgeurts
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Post Post #297 (isolation #14) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:49 pm

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We could host a private pitboss server and make it that it emails you on turn start.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #15) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:59 pm

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Yeah, but better than no game.
Aren't we used to mafia though and long games?
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Post Post #313 (isolation #16) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:20 am

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I've been playing modded civ and the revolutions+cultural diffusion combo is amazing. Basically if your people now hate you they will actually strike, revolt or even start a revolution. Think your cities suddenly becoming city states and spawning units against you like buffed pikemen or them joining/supporting your enemies. It makes warring a challenge as no longer can you roflstomp a continent without having too many disadvantages besides growth. If you don't maintain stability you will be torn up from the inside.

Then there's a bunch of wonder/religion additions I added and some building/unit additions. The new Mercenary mod from JFD is also pretty neat and feels like something that could fit in as an expansion.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #17) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:20 pm

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Yep, I always play with BNW+GK so it's also compatible.
Don't use historical spawn dates though, it'll mess up balance.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #18) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:47 pm

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Almighty necro time
We should organize a game at some point.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:29 am

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Deity is my standard play mode
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Post Post #340 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:03 am

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I just play too much.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:36 am

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At least I have a religion and am not being crushed by barbarians 80 turns in >_>
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Post Post #348 (isolation #22) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:01 am

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In post 345, Maestro wrote:
In post 343, wgeurts wrote:At least I have a religion and am not being crushed by barbarians 80 turns in >_>
This has never happened to me idk what you're trying to say here
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Thoughts on the artstyle?

The fog of war looks amazing, and the fact that the construction of things happens in many more stages, as well as map destructibility, is pretty cool. However I'm not too sure I'm a fan of the step towards the cartoon-like style, it makes the game feel less serious and could be seen as a step down from civ v.

Some of the hinted mechanics on the other hand sound great.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:49 pm

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Okay, I've played this for about 10 hours now so I'm going to give my opinions.

People complained about the new art style they used seeing the pre-release photos of the game. It was accused of looking like a mobile game and being childish. I agreed for a while, but withheld opinion until release. After having played the game itself I can honestly say that it is anything but the above. The new fog of war is stunning, although took some getting used to at first. The sketched look of a distant civilisation across the ocean has captivated me a few times. The way cities are now so dynamic is also great, you see everything you build and it gives somewhat more of a sense that your city is progressing without only getting larger. It is also a lot lot easier to get a grasp of what is in front of you at a glimpse than compared to civilisation V. I am willing to say that I enjoy this look more than prior games, and you can tell the devs tried to add detail. The only complaints for me are the strategic view which although pretty and technically more simplified remains more confusing than the normal overview, which is almost an achievement in itself. The Tech and Civic tree also look a little bland and take some getting used to, but aren't confusing once you get a hang of the key.

Also, the new battle animations can be pretty brutal at times. Nothing can be anymore satisfying than watching your spearman stab your opponent in the stomach, haul them over their shoulder and carry on as if nothing happened.

Gameplay wise the new features and mechanics are well done, and after some balancing and tweaking will be excellent.

The district system forces players to think of each cities utility, as especially early game you simply won't be able to have each district in your city meaning you have to prioritise. Micromanagent is introduced without feeling overcomplicated to players, and that has added some depth to city management. New tactics are also brought along with the district's, being able to cripple a cities faith or science output by plundering a cities holy district or campus are examples of things you'll now have to take into consideration. The only thing I have a serious complaint on is that the harbour district, although intended to make naval war more accessible, has eliminated it. As you can now produce naval units as long as your city is near to the sea (after building a harbour district on the coast) the point of settling naval cities is eliminated. This in turn means mêlée naval units have lost their worth, as any player worth their salt won't settle naval cities as such. Denmark becomes practically useless and many unique units too. The best you can use a naval unit against other human players is to escort your military across an ocean to another continent.

Then we have the great people system. The fact each great person has different bonuses and can only be gained once per game by any single player adds some depth to them too. However the coat of any great person type raises the second any other civ gets one of that type, and this snowballs heavily early game. By the medical era I had one or two great people at best, one being a great prophet I had to focus everything on for a while as to get a religion (capable of now winning you the game literally). They need to tweak this somewhat, yet a foundation is there.

Then we have civics. Policies have basically been replaced with governments and a culture tech tree. Each government gives you a certain ammount of slots of certain types, and you earn policies through the civic tree (each policy having a certain type). You mix and match these policies throughout the game depending on your needs, and I love it. Having barbarian trouble? Choose to pick anti-barbarian civics. Killed all barbarians and need to build an economy? Focus on gold and production boosting civics and put aside your barbarian ones. Policies have become something dynamic and involving.

Speaking of barbarians, I swear they've become smarter and more buff. They seem to plunder less thank God (which by the way doesn't heal your health anymore, finally nerfing a broken action) but they are organised. I've seen groups of barbarian cavalry come along supported by horse archers at the back end of their front. They swooped through and in a suicidal manner that puts Bushido to shame simply destroyed my entire army (albeit a small army) and ran off plundering all my key districts. As soon as they came they left. And I was left wondering what the hell just happened.

This game is definitely worth getting, though if you're short on money I'd recommend waiting for a sale.
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In post 408, Nexus wrote:i'm always up for a civ v game if we can properly arrange a time and stuff.
This. I'd be in.
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In post 418, Nexus wrote:Who's free tomorrow evening (UK time) after like 7?
Me, though may be a bit later depending on how fast I can stock shelves.
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My username is wgeurts I'm pretty sure, let me go confirm that though. Nero has me added I know.

Also, DLC or no?
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Post Post #436 (isolation #28) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:16 pm

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In post 434, Nexus wrote:I'd prefer all doc since that's how I've played most of the time,plus the non doc culture victory is shit.
This is why I was asking, it would be weird to play without the ability to become a fully fledge communist.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #29) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:42 am

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So it'll be the five of us?
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Hope you recover swiftly Nexus!
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Sent Maestro and Sesq a friend request, will be around in 30 minutes tops. Just finished stocking shelves and need to eat.
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Post Post #445 (isolation #32) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:09 am

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Me Menno and Nero are on, dunno about Maestro and Sesq. Dont have them on steam
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Post Post #452 (isolation #33) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:46 am

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In post 451, Nexus wrote:who won last night?
Not finished yet as some people take longer to finish turns than others. To be continued...
(Im having turn timer next time though)
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Post Post #544 (isolation #34) » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:50 am

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When do you lot all play, I keep missing you all.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #35) » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:25 am

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In post 563, Alisae wrote:Yeah thats what they do.
It's not too much worth it tbh the money or planting it is better.
Disagree, a puppet city state generates a lot more wealth in the long run if you have the resources to maintain it.
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Post Post #574 (isolation #36) » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:25 pm

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I tend to play wide, don't understand how everyone says the game is limited to tall.play.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #37) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:48 pm

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In post 583, Alisae wrote:Well I mean
I'm like the scum of the earth when it comes to this game
I get alhambra and push out Blitz Xcoms because that's fun.
Lol, I do this more than I should to my friends.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #38) » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:12 am

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In post 589, Elbirn wrote:When me and my friends play civ we just ally each other and then kill any AI's that are around and then build happy little countries like a bunch of Bob Ross's painting happy little trees

We are all very good friends
Don't you ever have uranium make one a monster?
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Post Post #610 (isolation #39) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:52 am

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In post 603, Alisae wrote:Guys we should do civ night again!
I'll organize it (actually) this time and it'll be a blast :)
If it's on Saturdays/Friday evenings I'm up for it
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Post Post #611 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:55 am

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Also I have a modpack that works on multiplayer, which patches things such as:

The AI (They are significantly smarter thanks to the guys from CivFanatics)
The AI now actually sends you deals in multiplayer, and due to enhanced AI they can literally end up bribing you to war on opponents. They do this via pop-up boxes like the "You have a trade deal" notifcation balls to prevent diplomacy holding the game up.
You can capture great people.
You can capture other people's tiles in war (can be disabled, lots of fun with fluid borders though).
Afghanistan, Iceland and Mexico added.
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I think that's about everything. Aircraft animations are also 2x faster.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #41) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:57 am

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Oh and an entire new era, the enlightenment era. A bunch of friends and I have been play-testing the heck out of this, and we've reached the point it's really stable. Odd crash every now and then but that happens in regular civ too. If we want to do this but also want to feel like civ V has a new free major DLC, I can provide everyone a dropbox link.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #42) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:38 am

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If anyone organises anything that runs on Saturdays or Fridays let me know.
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Post Post #678 (isolation #43) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:08 am

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Im here, but cant be around for long
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Post Post #689 (isolation #44) » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:33 am

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In post 687, Espeonage wrote:6 is better.
It really isn't. Mechanically it holds a tonne of potential, but as off now unless you're playing without AI and only human players the diplomacy is actually horrendous. The AI is awful at war, tends to be somewhat irrational about everything and doesn't play the game well in any sense. Firaxis has been really lazy with it, and as off now modders haven't been given access to the required code to do something about like they did in civ V, which with mods is many times a better game than civ 6. It's even possible to play modded civ v in mutliplayer, and as a result of that I\ve not been able to get into civ VI as in comparison it is really lacking.

The districts system is beautiful, and the game has a lot of great ideas that as off now just aren't fleshed out well enough. My main gripe remains the AI however.
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