Pikmin Mafia - Game over

[GhostWriter]

Hmm...

Unvotes Shin Hatsubai

Votes JDodge

Very scummy, indeed.

What a wagon. With a bad excuse to boot. One person's argument is enough proof for you to switch your vote?

Vote: Zombie

Yes it is, actually. If it is logical enough.

Even if that person placed an OMGUS vote and just listed a few reasons to try to get away with it?

[mikeburnfire]

Day 1 Vote Count
With 20 alive, it will take *8* votes to lynch

7 ZombieSlayer54 (Flameaxe, farside22, Gorrad, armlx, GhostWriter, JamesThePhox, UROE)
3 JDodge (windkirby, Kison, ZombieSlayer54)
2 Shin Hatsubai (Blazerunner, PyroDwarf)
1 UltimaAvalon (UltimaAvalon)
1 armlx (Greasy Spot)
1 Kison (JDodge)
1 Blazerunner (Xdaamno)

4 Not Voting (Miztef, skitzer, Shin Hatsubai, sonickid01)

[ZombieSlayer54]

Hmm...

Unvotes Shin Hatsubai

Votes JDodge

Very scummy, indeed.

What a wagon. With a bad excuse to boot. One person's argument is enough proof for you to switch your vote?

Vote: Zombie

Yes it is, actually. If it is logical enough.

Even if that person placed an OMGUS vote and just listed a few reasons to try to get away with it?

I care not what a person did before or event after they have presented their logic. If the logic is sound, I will listen to it. That is what I am doing.

For example, I recently have been debating welfare. A national socialist says that he believes that welfare should not be given to those who do not want to work, or those who can not work.

I agree with him that those who do not want to work should not get welfare, but those that can not work should get it.

See where I am going with this?

[GhostWriter]

No, I cannot put welfare and the game of Mafia together.

[ZombieSlayer54]

No, I cannot put welfare and the game of Mafia together.

That was not what I was trying to do.

What I was trying to do was explain how even if I disagree with someone on some points, it is definitely possible for me to agree with them on other points.

[Kison]

Even if that person placed an OMGUS vote and just listed a few reasons to try to get away with it?

If I am using those reasons to "get away with it" then why are you attacking the guy who's agreeing with them and entirely ignoring the guy who came up with them in the first place(AKA me)?

Zombie, even if you have

absolutely nothing

new to add(which is complete BS - you could find something if you tried), stating

why

you agree with what someone else says/does is helpful because it binds you to that statement. You can't then later on say, "oh, well, it sounded convincing at the time" or present some other lame cop-out because you clearly stated your reason for your vote switch. I think what you did warranted some votes.

[ZombieSlayer54]

Even if that person placed an OMGUS vote and just listed a few reasons to try to get away with it?

If I am using those reasons to "get away with it" then why are you attacking the guy who's agreeing with them and entirely ignoring the guy who came up with them in the first place(AKA me)?

Zombie, even if you have

absolutely nothing

new to add(which is complete BS - you could find something if you tried), stating

why

you agree with what someone else says/does is helpful because it binds you to that statement. You can't then later on say, "oh, well, it sounded convincing at the time" or present some other lame cop-out because you clearly stated your reason for your vote switch. I think what you did warranted some votes.

I imagine it has something to do with the fact that I look as though I am attempting to get anyone lynched that I possibly can.

I have enough information that I feel is necessary to make a logical argument against the person I am voting for. Getting more information would only be over kill.

I could do something like that.

But, generally, I will admit a mistake like that. Unless it is in my best interests to not do so. I.E. If I was scum.

[Gorrad]

Hey Zombie, now would be a good time to claim, given how many votes are on you. If you REALLY think you can get off at this point, provide a good scumlist with points no one else has said. So play REALLY well or be lucky enough to have a good claim.

[ZombieSlayer54]

I could role claim.

But that presents two problems.

1. Townies could think that I am simply role claiming for the sake of not being lynched, as I have seen, and I am sure you people have seen as well, many times before, and therefore finish up the voting on me.

2. If the townies believe me, that would make me a target for the Mafia, who have nothing to lose by night killing me. At least, I do not think they would.

[Flameaxe]

I could role claim.

But that presents two problems.

1. Townies could think that I am simply role claiming for the sake of not being lynched, as I have seen, and I am sure you people have seen as well, many times before, and therefore finish up the voting on me.

2. If the townies believe me, that would make me a target for the Mafia, who have nothing to lose by night killing me. At least, I do not think they would.

Stall with general info less please. Most of us have played before, we know all this already.

[ZombieSlayer54]

I could role claim.

But that presents two problems.

1. Townies could think that I am simply role claiming for the sake of not being lynched, as I have seen, and I am sure you people have seen as well, many times before, and therefore finish up the voting on me.

2. If the townies believe me, that would make me a target for the Mafia, who have nothing to lose by night killing me. At least, I do not think they would.

Stall with general info less please. Most of us have played before, we know all this already.

I was just pointing out as to why I would not role claim as Gorrad was suggesting.

You seem too eager to find any and every flaw in all of my reasoning, Flameaxe.

HoS FlameAxe

[Greasy Spot]

What the Hell...It's Hammah Time!

VOTE: ZombieSlayer54

[ZombieSlayer54]

Bah. Humbug.

[mikeburnfire]

And so all the other creatures surrounded ZombieSlayer54, beating him to death and watching his tiny soul fly into the sky.

ZombieSlayer54, Purple Pikmin

, killed Day 1

It is now Night 1. Have your night choices sent to me by April 2, 11:59 PM EST.

[mikeburnfire]

Two more deaths have occurred during the night. Farside's electrically zapped body is seen before it quickly disappears, while FlameAxe seems to have been wiped off the map entirely.

Flameaxe, Red Pikmin

, blown off the map Night 1

farside22, Blue Pikmin

, electricuted Night 1

Edit: more information a few posts down

[Flameaxe]

fuck you.

I mean...bah.

[UltimaAvalon]

Why do you keep leaving me, Bam?

[skitzer]

See, I told you the low majority lynch wasn't a joke...

[Blazerunner]

well I wish Zombie

had

claimed, he had nothing to lose then, and as he was town, he should have thought, even if the claim wouldnt save him, it was worth giving town info. Too bad I was away from the topic and didnt post between the wagon getting big and the hammer

For instance, it could be helpful if we knew what the purple pikmin does. Just that info could help us guess the setup better. Say, his role description could be "You are heavy, so you are immune to enemies that throw you high up into the sky", and if he had claimed that, we would know there is a scum role that throws people and kills them by doing it

It was a dumb example, I dont think his power was anything like that, but if we knew what it was, it could be usefull...

I personally think that, perhaps with the exception of weird set-ups, pro town players should

always

claim when they see the hammer is comming. Best case scenario, town believes and wont mislynch one person. Worst case scenario, the town doesnt believe, but after the body, can read back his claim and try to draw conclusions from the role description, night choices, etc.

[mikeburnfire]

Oh, by the way.... Day 2 starts now. With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. That's the right number, yes? I guess Pikmin aren't so stupid afterall.

No wait, you're all still stupid. That is why

today you can vote new targets without unvoting your previous targets!

That means that you can vote everybody at once if you wanted to! This is a terrible idea! Why, oh God why, are you all so stupid?!?

Vote Count!
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

Not voting: UROE, Gorrad, Xdaamno, JDodge, Miztef, JamesThePhox, GhostWriter, skitzer, Shin Hatsubai, UltimaAvalon, PyroDwarf, Kison, armlx, windkirby, Blazerunner, Greasy Spot, sonickid01

[UltimaAvalon]

I love this game

[sonickid01]

Alrighty then.

So that's 17 left. Of those, we don't know how many are scum.

I believe that there is definitely, at this point, one mafia group with specifically alligned scums, who all know each other. Otherwise, there would've been more kills, correct? However, I read through and noticed that there were two different deaths. There are two possibilities I see; 1) Mikeburnfire is just messing with us a little or 2) there is some other person, more than likely a vig or a SK. :^P Just stating the obvious here.

Any ideas as to why those two got nightkilled? I'll have to go back through to make a good guess but meh.

[Miztef]

wow, what an interesting way to have the votes go today.

[sonickid01]

EBWOP:
OK, I just read Mikeburnfire's second post of the day. My guess is that this is more than just some random mod's gimmick, it may be someone's role.

[JDodge]

Assuming we have multiple votes now...

Vote: Gorrad

Has given off his personal scumtell

Vote: Skitzer

"See, I told you so"

Vote: Kison

For yesterday.

Vote: Sonickid

For that post.