[Mini 1987] Snowman's Bad Idea Mafia: Aliens [GG]

[TywinL]

LET'S DO THIS

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[TywinL]

Hmm...

Vax town/TIAM scum???

VOTE: TIAM

There is no reason to keep a lyncher around. If there is even one.

[TywinL]

I'm assuming the claim is a joke.

[TywinL]

^ good post

But how am I town with only 3 posts?

[TywinL]

(That goes for both Math and Gamma)

[TywinL]

I like Vax's push onto TIAM and partly gut because he was scum in the one other game I played with him.

[TywinL]

^ bad post.

[TywinL]

Ah well I don't usually go out of my way to do meta, I only do meta based off my own memory. But duly noted.

[TywinL]

Well so you are being serious. And as for the flavor goes, yes I imagine that scum is called Aliens and town is human.

[TywinL]

Again, I'm not sure why you needed to out so soon? Especially if the lyncher is town?

[TywinL]

Town lean on Gamma.

[TywinL]

And town lean on you too.

[TywinL]

So, ethos, I take it that scumhunting isn't your forte?

[TywinL]

Again, I'm not sure why you needed to out so soon? Especially if the lyncher is town?

So if anyone tries to fake a guilty or something idkkk

And because it goes with the mod saying there are other objectives once completed ends the game

So I imagine if the lyncher completes his objective in lynching me he wins and games done

Um....what? What does fake guilty have to do with this?

[TywinL]

So, ethos, I take it that scumhunting isn't your forte?

I love scumhunting.
I hate RVS.
And I wanted to see who here likes having fun,
and who is a stick in the mud.

I'm gonna put you in group B.

[TywinL]

Well I'm currently looking at wilky/TIAM.

TIAM's inaction recently bothers me (with regards to not voting/fence sitting)

[TywinL]

Wheme, can you answer this please? I am not convinced and I feel uneasy about you.

Again, I'm not sure why you needed to out so soon? Especially if the lyncher is town?

So if anyone tries to fake a guilty or something idkkk

And because it goes with the mod saying there are other objectives once completed ends the game

So I imagine if the lyncher completes his objective in lynching me he wins and games done

Um....what? What does fake guilty have to do with this?

[TywinL]

^ bad justification for fence sitting.

Also yeah I'm being dumb regarding the lyncher thing. Never mind about that.

[TywinL]

Also: Brandi, Viomi, Jurassic (some others I'm probably missing), can we hear from you guys more?

P-edit: Okay, share your evaluations with us then.

[TywinL]

Whemstar: Claims lyncher. A hard claim to fake. Guessing town.
Brandi: Lurking. Leaning scum.
Jurassic Monster: Also lurking, but at least is voting Brandi. Leaning town for now.
Tywin: Questions lynchee claim. Not sure I agree with that. Leaning scum.
Gamma Emerald: Fairly active, taking stances, asking questions. Strong town.

Sweet, this is why I wanted to get you into the game (and I still want others to do so as well) because now I can nitpick this.

So, just so we are completely clear: I am leaning scum for questioning a claim? Meanwhile, Gamma is town for being active, taking stances and asking questions in which I argue I am pretty much doing the exact same thing. Is my assessment correct?

[TywinL]

Why is TIAM town?

[TywinL]

Eh, maybe but again, it's more important to realize that TIAM straight up did not exhibit town behavior and that's more important than "well scum wouldn't do this!". Because you don't actually know that.

Also, your case on Vaxkiller is complete bs too.

Fos: Jurassic

[TywinL]

Gamma, that is so incorrect. If anything I'm the one sheeping Vax.

[TywinL]

And yes, Vax is correct. I didn't actually ask for a reads list, just a evaluation on things. I accepted the reads list because it gave me something to work with because I wanted to sort TIAM some more.

[TywinL]

Possibility of Viomi being scum?

[TywinL]

Yep pretty much ^^^

[TywinL]

Viomi is at L-1

[TywinL]

I like the Viomi wagon with the exception of WhemeStar.

[TywinL]

Quick post before I'm gone for the day.

LOL, a lurker accused me of lurking when I have been fairly active compared to other players in this game. This whole 1v1 has basically confirmed my scum read on Viomi. Just one quick question to Math: When have you played with me? I don't recall playing with you. Secondly, why the move off of Viomi and onto TIAM? (I don't disagree with it, just wondering why)

[TywinL]

I'm good for either Viomi or TIAM at this point. (blatant misrepping from Viomi is just ridiculous)

I don't like TIAM's recent comments about the 1v1, it just rubbed me the wrong way and his interaction with Evee was just bad. On top of the earlier stuff.

[TywinL]

Also wanted to add real quick: If Viomi was town, she would have realized that it is impossible to have 5 scumreads but apparently she didn't bat an eye when she wrote out those reads.

[TywinL]

I feel like town would be more aware? idk. It just reminds me of when I was scum on my first game on here and I was being wagoned and I was flailing hard and I was calling people scum left and right.

[TywinL]

Also how do you figure the TIAM town/Viomi scum etc etc?

[TywinL]

Ehh, I guess it could be NAI. Still bs though.

[TywinL]

Yeah, I also didn't like how it was basically a copy of Evee's post but in a more awkward way. Like come on now, "assume".

Sure. VOTE: TIAM

[TywinL]

*sigh*

Viomi:

Your blatant misrep is obvious. How am I active lurking? Because my posts that you quoted are not active lurkng. But good try though. As for TIAM and his use of "assume": You realize you are comparing apples and oranges right? When I said it, it's when Wheme claimed it on page 1 and at the time I didn't understand why he would do that and assumeed it was a joke because people sometimes lolfakeclaim for fun but I always like to move past it. In TIAM's case, it's was awkward. And again, you are misrepping me by saying that is the reason why I want him lynched. There have been several other reasons why I want him lynched. re: the bs reads list

And as for your five scumreads go:

And.. scum!me would apparently know less about how many scum there were, for some reason? You do realize me having 5 scumreads doesn't mean I think there are 5 scum in this game, right?

Um...except that when you have 5 scumreads you are implying that you think there are 5 scum. Like, you should know that at least 2 of your reads are incorrect and you should be trying to figure out which ones they are. Instead you are doubling down on it. And I don't like how you call out Vax for being potentially fake about his anger about the fake claims but then be mad about me calling you out for your potentially fake "look how unaware I am"

[TywinL]

2. You seem to think that I think the word "assuming" is a scumtell. If I need to canvas votes I'll explain more. Please don't assume my argument if you don't understand it. Lemme know if you actually want to hear it.

I wasn't even talking to you

Also why did you dismiss this? Math was also arguing the same thing as I was. Why only attack me for it?

[TywinL]

So it seems like most of the active playerbase is good with lynching TIAM while the inactive is ?????

[TywinL]

Dino, I don't think there is any other wagon where we can get 7 votes. Like I said, the problem is that a portion of the player list is rather inactive and holding us up.

[TywinL]

Also, my problem with Assemble is that I cannot read him for shit. Every time I am convinced that he is scum, he flips town. It's due to the fact that the guy never posts. So lynching him would be a PL for me and I rather not do that when there are better candidates.

[TywinL]

I see no reason to drag this out.

[TywinL]

Uhhhh I have no memory of this? I thought this was our first game together Gamma.

[TywinL]

No, I'm not an alt of Tywin Lannister. I was pretty annoyed to find out that there was someone before me.

[TywinL]

My condition is 50% successfull.

Kinda feels like a lame restriction for scum stumper to have, so I'm thinking you're town for now.
UNVOTE:

What makes you think he isn't lying?

[TywinL]

What do you guys mean by leashing TIAM?

Also, TIAM, you are really not helping your case. You are all like "you might wanna keep me alive" then "lol, you aren't leashing me"

[TywinL]

But you said this:

I have a fairly good record on my lynches, as far as catching scum on day 1. Sometimes there's not a whole lot of activity that I see as worth commenting on which is probably not a great attitude but it is what it is. I have a good scumhunting record as town and you probably want to keep me alive.

[TywinL]

Also, how would leashing TIAM work for us?

[TywinL]

Ugh, Vax, that was such a bad post.

Also, I think stumping Whemestar seems to be the right move.

[TywinL]

It's basically a vig shot but the dead can still talk, if I can understand correctly. And assuming TIAM is not lying. TIAM is claiming that there is a public dice roll.

[TywinL]

Eh, yeah neighbors make sense with the flavor.

Math, have you done a meta check on Viomi scumgame? Cuz I was gonna go check that out now.

[TywinL]

UNVOTE:

[TywinL]

Well that was a quick meta check.

Ok, it did not take long for me to realize that Viomi's attitude is the same as town or scum. So meta is NAI. I jumped off Viomi because I believe Math told me that Viomi is like this as town and you said you get to scum meta later. So if we have to do a PL, I would prefer Viomi over Assemble.

Need to think out loud for a sec:
TIAM (top scumread): Tree Stumper. Not lynching due to leashing him

Wheme/Vax neighbors. (Vax more likkely town imo) Move ahead with stumping Wheme to get that flip.

Wilky's slot was ehhh.

ethos is town apparently by meta, I have been told

Gamma/Math town

oh my god there are so many people in this game that are simply just not as active as us.
Jurassic/Eevee/Brandi null

That leaves Assemble/Viomi. Assemble might be scum by that naked unvote I guess.

So I am cool with lynching Assemble, Viomi or maybe even Wilky's slot but I kinda want to give the replacement a chance at least.

[TywinL]

I think the problem I'm having here is that we are all so active compared to some other people, I kinda forgot about them...

[TywinL]

That sounds good to me actually.

[TywinL]

Now, who are we lynching?

[TywinL]

I prefer Viomi.

VOTE: Viomi

[TywinL]

So to be clear: TIAM stumps the hydra and we lynch Viomi

[TywinL]

So, I have never seen this post deleting thing before..wow.

[TywinL]

Ok, so I'm good with TIAM still.

VOTE: TIAM

[TywinL]

Letting this drag out hurts town in the long run.

[TywinL]

My claim: I knew the aliens were coming so I am feeling proud of myself because I was smart to prepare for the invasion but I an kinda nervous though.

[TywinL]

I heavily paraphrased my flavor because otherwise it would be obvious as to what my role is. But oh look, Viomi has a problem with it. Nothing new.

[TywinL]

Remaining people to check in before we end the day:
The mod
Chickadee
Jurassic Monster
Brandi

So a lynch won't happen for a couple days then.

[TywinL]

When I first read it I thought Chick meant that he's not home and he would rather use a computer and tell us his flavor but yeah your interpretation makes a lot more sense.

[TywinL]

or if TIAM did any decent scumhunting, that would have saved him too.

Anyway, I am thinking either JM or Wheme.

VOTE: JM

[TywinL]

Also TIAM's flip somewhat contradicts Viomi's claim.

[TywinL]

Also TIAM's flip somewhat contradicts Viomi's claim.

You think multiple investigative roles can't exist?

Viomi claimed cop where TIAM flipped detective which is basically cop.

[TywinL]

Not as strong of a town read from yesterday but still town for me.

[TywinL]

Why?

[TywinL]

Also, to clarify, I believe Viomi's claim less because 1. scum has fakeclaims and 2. we got a cop flip

[TywinL]

VOTE: WhemeStar

[TywinL]

Wait Math, what happened to your town read on Gamma?

[TywinL]

In post 985, TywinL wrote:
VOTE: WhemeStar

This is a really bad opportunistic vote..

I have been calling out Wheme for awhile now. tf you mean?

[TywinL]

In post 985, TywinL wrote:
VOTE: WhemeStar

This is a really bad opportunistic vote..

I have been calling out Wheme for awhile now. tf you mean?

Answer this pls.

[TywinL]

Okay, sure, I can jump back over.

VOTE: JM

Also I want to propose that we consider lynching Eevee at some point because I just skimmed his day 1 ISO and here's what I saw: half of the posts were fluff and the other half was shading someone. Which is fine except Eevee didn't vote at all yesterday.

[TywinL]

Also I want to propose that we consider lynching Eevee at some point because I just skimmed his day 1 ISO and here's what I saw: half of the posts were fluff and the other half was shading someone. Which is fine except Eevee didn't vote at all yesterday.

i still think eevee townslipped

like, he legit thought humans were a third party

when, if scum, he had TWO ROLE PMs (one fakeclaim) to easily see that humans are the town

Eh, but you still have to agree that his other behavior still looks bad. Again, we can debate this later on, I just thought I would point it out before day 2 ends.

[TywinL]

(3) Jurassic Monster

- Mathdino, Gamma Emerald, Chickadee, TywinL, Assemblerowts

At first glance the last two votes look the most opportunistic.

Why?

Getting really sick of people saying that my votes are opportunistic when I have been voicing suspicion for a while and I decide to act on it. And even then, Chick still wants to lynch me lmao.

Thoughts on Eevee not voting at all?

We already talked about this. And now I'm starting to think that Eevee might be town because of this question.

[TywinL]

Lynch pool for me: JM, Wheme, Chick

[TywinL]

And Viomi, you are just better off to just cop me honestly.

[TywinL]

If you are even telling the truth about your role anyway

[TywinL]

If you say so.

[TywinL]

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̡̰͓̬̤̰̈ͤͮ̏Ȧ̼͙̤̰̘̬͎̼̫̅̓͆n̛̻̺̳̭̔̓̅͛ͨ̿̐͑͌ͅd̈́ͩ͗ͤ̌͏̷̤̭̜͎́ ̶̞̋ͪ͗ͨ̚͜͞y͑́ͥ̾ͬͫ̊̒̚҉̛̤̩̫͉̬̭͙͡o̸̘̻̔̑ͨ̓ū̟̱͎̪̾̅̍͂͢͝͠ͅ ̶͓̙͖̼͓̅͌͂̿̌̀̚d̵̥̙̦̪͖̻͓̣̀́͑̈͘o̸̰͇̾̍ͩ̎n̟ͦ̉ͩ͌̈ͭ̕'͕̞̟̗͉͎ͬͯ̈́̚̕t̝͙ͧ̄̇̎͜͞ ̎̎̄̑ͩͭ̊҉̲̳͖́s͈̙̭̓̇̊̊̾̋̂̐͡t̆ͪ̅ͤ̎͑͛ͦͥ͏̷̧̙͖̭̭o̴̳͎̪̣̹̿́ṕ̧̜͕̫̒̄̈́̋ͪͪ,̢̛͇̖̺ͦ̑͂̊ͨ̚ ̻̋̔́ͯ͐͆̊̏̍͘y̪͙̫͊ͅoͤ̈̾͂̚ͅú̬̪̖̱͍͌ͭ͛̃̿ ̛̭̂̃̊̕͝k̼̓̐̄ͥ̎̚͘ȩ̖̥͍̰̎̔́ë̡͎̱̂͒ͤp̵̖͚̰̠͇̬̣ͨ͘ ̛̩͕͈̰̖͔̹̾̈́͆͞͞o͉̱̞̺̩ͦͥͫ͛͆͒͐͠ņ̱̥̲̹̭̾͐̓̎̍͐̓ͪ͜ ̡̢̭̠̑͛̈̓̄̇̈̆͌e̝̟̗͚͑̓͒̌͑͢͝a̴͔͖ͮ̌͋͝t̡̟͔̫͇̪̠̥̳́̽͑̎i̡͓͕̼̞ͨ̾̀͒͆̑n̛͔̹̳̦̺̤͊͒ͧͧͣ͐ͮ͢'̵̳̲͚̫͎̪͌͐̐ͯ̏͢͡ ̩̱͎̼̲̝͊ͥ̾̾͢͟c̬̣͈ͫͫ̈́ͯ͝ạ̡̰̩̮̜͎̇͛r̛͍̲̽̓͑̅̑͊̃ͥ͘͘ͅͅs̸̨̼̟̙̞͗ͭͧͤ͑̚ͅ

Has anyone thought about this thing at all that's on the front page?

[TywinL]

Oh interesting. Wasn't sure if it was part of the game or not.

Also, I think Wheme's explanation is pretty valid regarding the claiming in the PT so I'm feeling better about him now.

p-edit: How was that wasting time? I wasn't sure if it was important to the game or not so I felt I wanted it to be addressed. And why doesn't Math get scum points?

[TywinL]

And what happened to the JM wagon? It literally evaporated after JM started posting, and now he has disappeared again.

P-edit: Ok, I missed that then. Also, dumb reason to town read someone, Eevee.

[TywinL]

Also, why do you never vote Eevee?

[TywinL]

Eevee, this was directed to you:

Also, why do you never vote Eevee?

[TywinL]

Okay, yeah Brandi is probably town.

Eevee, you really should be voting and your reasons for not voting is bad and I would town read you more due to your townslip so null for you I guess.

[TywinL]

And no body has told me why JM's wagon died like no reason. JM still hasn't posted since I last asked about the JM wagon.

[TywinL]

Math pointed it out, Eevee thought that humans were 3rd party.

p-edit: Ok but Gamma says that this is scum-Creature so which is it people? And I have never played with Creature before and I still don't like the behavior.

[TywinL]

Ok so I went back and looked at JM's recent posts. He points this out:

(3) Jurassic Monster

- Mathdino, Gamma Emerald, Chickadee, TywinL, Assemblerowts

At first glance the last two votes look the most opportunistic.

Throws shade on Assemble and I. Viomi decides to vote me and JM follows Viomi shortly after.

And yet Viomi scumreads me for doing the same damn thing that JM just did there. Such bullshit.

[TywinL]

And my vote on JM wasn't even opportunistic. Been fosing him for awhile now. Chick accused me of being opportunistic on Wheme too where I was also fosing.

p-edit: well tbh townpoints for admitting this. @Eevee

[TywinL]

Well the paranoid part of me thinks you could have easily tried to fake that but I don't really want to read too much into it. I'm just gonna call you null for now.

[TywinL]

And yeah I active lurk sometimes, regardless of alignment. It depends on how much I enjoy the game and my interest in it. It's NAI.

[TywinL]

And also, I like to active lurk if the game is active because I hate catching up because I usually have to digest a bunch of information at once.

[TywinL]

So that part of your case is complete bullshit.

[TywinL]

Viomi, are you even looking at my ISO?

[TywinL]

Dude, I active lurk in every game.

[TywinL]

And while you are on my case, why don't you go back into my ISO and point out instances where I "toe-dip" wagons?

[TywinL]

And while you are on my case, why don't you go back into my ISO and point out instances where I "toe-dip" wagons?

Why don't you go through my ISO and look at the post(s) where I already pointed out those instances? I put "read my posts" on literally everything, how difficult can this be

The only thing from your ISO that relates to "toe-dipping" is me asking the townblock what they thought of you.

[TywinL]

And Viomi, you gonna respond to this?

Dude, I active lurk in every game.

I understand that it destroys your case but you still can't ignore it.

[TywinL]

Eh, I'm just gonna leave Assemble for now and maybe he can explain the whole "we" thing when he comes back in like 2 days.

[TywinL]

And Viomi, you gonna respond to this?

Dude, I active lurk in every game.

I understand that it destroys your case but you still can't ignore it.

The fact you think your excuse warrants a response is kind of.. pitiful, maybe? Hmm..

You do realize that by your own logic, I must be scum in every game I'm in, right?

P-edit: No, JM, I am not the alt of Tywin Lannister.

[TywinL]

Chick would be my second choice probably.

[TywinL]

If you think having a couple of posts that count as contributing means he isn't active lurking, well uh...

you're wrong so

Provide examples of me active lurking throughout the game.

[TywinL]

Dude, I active lurk in every game.

If you think having a couple of posts that count as contributing means he isn't active lurking, well uh...

you're wrong so

Provide examples of me active lurking throughout the game.

Objection! If you say you active lurk every game why are you contesting it here?

My definition of active lurking was being active (reading the game) but not posting. Turns out, the wiki defines it differently.

[TywinL]

So now, I'm challenging Viomi's accusation on her definition of active lurking rather than mine.

[TywinL]

Can whoevers deleting posts just stop pls, its quite annoying. Idc if scums doing it it isn't benefiting yall anyway.

99% sure that it's scum. And yes, it benefits them because they can delete information.

[TywinL]

that can't be right

the first set of post deletions were the entire viomi wagon except whemestar

the second post deletion was a singular post i made casting shade on all the people without flavourclaims (like whemestar)

the third set of post deletions seems to be the jurassic monster wagon

Did the second post have a vote in it?

[TywinL]

Its probably active but has some sort of prerequisite to do it and limits on what can be deleted.

Oh yeah definitely or otherwise there would be mass deletions.

[TywinL]

I think the best way to combat this is to try to quote as much as possible when replying to people.

[TywinL]

Wait, there were definitely more posts on page 38 because I remember seeing Math's and Eevee's posts on page 39. So there's more than just post 949.

[TywinL]

In post 1279, TywinL wrote:
I think the best way to combat this is to try to quote as much as possible when replying to people.

Was this post necessary when Dino said pretty much the same thing a post or two before you?

Was this question necessary when we aren't even talking about this anymore? But no, you couldn't resist yourself to throw some unnecessary shade on me.

As far as Vax goes, I don't think he's the best lynch today. I played with scum Vax before and I'm not seeing it here.

[TywinL]

I told Viomi to just cop me a while ago, but she never responded to that.

[TywinL]

I think it means it splits the aliens into 3 different possible teams?

[TywinL]

I think it means it splits the aliens into 3 different possible teams?

oh god it could be unannounced multiball
aids alert

Well no because mod said that there is at most 3 different win cons but I still don't get the 3 possible factions thing. Anyway, I don't think this really changes my reads because Math's theory on ethos being scum and having 3 traitors make the most sense to me.

[TywinL]

I have very little motivation to do work for this game until the mod answers my questions tbh. Inactive mod pls

That said, remember how ethos was shouting throughout D1 for people to scumread him? That felt INSANELY like traitor-baiting. So my calculus has changed to "find people who were traitor signalling to ethos" until mod info indicates otherwise.

Sure, but how would finding that work? I'm not particularly familiar with traitors.

[TywinL]

But yeah your line of thinking makes sense.

[TywinL]

I mean i can see that, but it also mentions 3 alien spies.

Wait fuck does this mean 3 pre designated players just became aliens and were aliens all along

This is possible cuz op says mid-game alignment changes are possible

Let's lynch chick

I can get behind this.

[TywinL]

Also I have been re-entertaining the idea of Viomi-scum. So, I was thinking JM/Chick/prob Viomi?

[TywinL]

What's your lynchpool?

[TywinL]

And weren't you scumreading JM because this is scum Creature? What happened to that?

[TywinL]

Wheme handled the whole Vax thing pretty well, so I disagree. Math, I don't see how people are scumreading him tbh. You said he was sketchy regarding ethos? Can you elaborate on that. Lynching assemble won't yield any information. And sure, chick would be a good lynch.

And if JM were to drop momo, I would definitely be willing to revisit my read on that slot.

[TywinL]

Actually, tbh. I think this would be better for now.

VOTE: Chick

I think math already asked Creature if momo would quit

[TywinL]

Also I have been re-entertaining the idea of Viomi-scum. So, I was thinking JM/Chick/prob Viomi?

Are you gonna like, ever quote posts that are making you "re-entertain" ideas or do anything along the lines of helping us follow your reasoning or are you just going to keep throwing names out as possible lynches?

Oh good, I have your attention. Can you go back and answer my question about the active lurking?

[TywinL]

Yeah not sure why people are even scumreading Math tbh. As far as everything else goes, not much has happened. The game seemed to die a bit after the pause...

So, I am not a huge fan of lynching Assemble because I feel that he can still be an asset and I don't think we would get much information out of an Assemble flip and that has been my past experience with him anyway. Again, I think we need to focus on converging on a lynch and I have already stated on who I support for a lynch and I mostly disagree with Gamma's pool and I think that is the only clear lynch pool to me post-pause.

p-edit: Why?

[TywinL]

If alignment changes are confirmed to be how the scumteam was put together (and confirmed to have happened sometime today), Creature is confirmed town.

And how exactly does that work?

[TywinL]

Ohh I get it now.

1. Viomi accuses me of active lurking under her definition.
2. I ask for evidence in attempt to generate some content and get some discussion going.
3. Viomi ignores it.
4. I ask again.
5. Viomi ignores it and makes a post complaining about no vote count.

Yep, no way she can be town.

[TywinL]

Ohh I get it now.

1. Viomi accuses me of active lurking under her definition.
2. I ask for evidence in attempt to generate some content and get some discussion going.
3. Viomi ignores it.
4. I ask again.
5. Viomi ignores it and makes a post complaining about no vote count.

Yep, no way she can be town.

No. I hard townread Viomi.

Ok, good to know that you think that is town behavior.

[TywinL]

Ah, yeah that makes sense regarding Creature. This is something you and Assemble can find out, right? That way we would be able to determine who is scum based off of what ethos did or didn't do.

And that post from chick is part of the reading why I think she is scum. She comes in to half-ass shade people not really make strong controversial statements. Basically mudslinging quietly to see what sticks.

p-edit: fucking finally Viomi responded to me.

[TywinL]

Ohh I get it now.

1. Viomi accuses me of active lurking under her definition.
2. I ask for evidence in attempt to generate some content and get some discussion going.
3. Viomi ignores it.
4. I ask again.
5. Viomi ignores it and makes a post complaining about no vote count.

Yep, no way she can be town.

Your questions are shit and so are your attempts to look like you're scumhunting.

Catching up.

Me asking for evidence of active lurking under your definition is shit? lmao. Your case on me is complete bullshit. You can't be this bad at town.

[TywinL]

You guys are so bad ugh.

[TywinL]

Ohh I get it now.

1. Viomi accuses me of active lurking under her definition.
2. I ask for evidence in attempt to generate some content and get some discussion going.
3. Viomi ignores it.
4. I ask again.
5. Viomi ignores it and makes a post complaining about no vote count.

Yep, no way she can be town.

Your questions are shit and so are your attempts to look like you're scumhunting.

Catching up.

Done catching up?

[TywinL]

You guys are so bad ugh.

-self-described active lurker

-Still waiting on evidence.

[TywinL]

You guys are so bad ugh.

-self-described active lurker

-Still waiting on evidence.

You literally called yourself an active lurker hun

Under my definition, yes. Not yours and I'm challenging you under your definition. You would know this if you actually read my posts which is weird because you are very big on making sure that people read your posts.

[TywinL]

You guys are so bad ugh.

-self-described active lurker

-Still waiting on evidence.

You literally called yourself an active lurker hun

Under my definition, yes. Not yours and I'm challenging you under your definition. You would know this if you actually read my posts which is weird because you are very big on making sure that people read your posts.

My definition is shared by the wiki so like...

Yeah, I see that. Still waiting for you to provide evidence. Why is it so hard to get this from you?

[TywinL]

tywin help me understand how exactly you're seeing the gamestate

it's like your issues with viomi didn't change at all after the ethos flip

like literally just explain how you think the alien team works and we'll go from there

I was trying to pressure her prior to the flip.

As far as the team goes, I think there was mid-game alignment changes because 1.op says it's possible 2. The game was paused and I don't think a pause would be needed if scum already knew each other were already good to go.

[TywinL]

And yeah, I'm fine with a no-lynch but I'm not quite ready for that yet though.

[TywinL]

so you think viomi just became scum at around the point where ethos claimed scum? (cuz it seems likely he would start the invasion as of his scumclaim just in case he got speedlynched)

It's possible. Like, I'm not even asking a hard question and she keeps dodging it. Not town behavior.

[TywinL]

Also just ignore my 1450, I was just getting frustrated, Brandi