Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Cheetory6]

be nice.

Well he's basically telling me that I'm being pointless in wanting to actually try in team mafia?

[Cheetory6]

Let me guess. After Aris flips town, Ginngie gets lynched by cheet, chara, and firebringer because of the fakeclaim and we don't want to lose to that.

If Ari flips scum you have to eat an entire bale of hay.

[Cheetory6]

no assemble was obvscum because he had to ask his team whether he had their permission to town read firebringer or not lol.

Has literally nothing to do with Ari's bad Mulch interactions.

[Cheetory6]

(expired on 2018-02-19 18:00:00)

P-Edit: We're going to lynch Ginngie and then you and then Patrick.

[Cheetory6]

We're going to lynch Ginngie and then you and then

Patrick

Firebringer.

Wait nvm scratch Patrick, Firebringer is higher on your townreads.

[Cheetory6]

You really don't do well with sarcasm do ya man?

[Cheetory6]

Iuno maybe because D3 didn't happen and we lynched scum the previous two days.

[Cheetory6]

Ari if I see you make one more post somewhere that isn't here I'm giving Ginngie the hammer.

[Cheetory6]

Like fuck man if this is your towngame then you really should have replaced out if you're that unable to focus on the game for literally a single hour.

[Cheetory6]

Shea says he thinks KMD is scum just in case our slot's gone btw.
I don't really agree but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Cheetory6]

Shea says he thinks KMD is scum just in case our slot's gone btw.
I don't really agree but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Shea says he wants you to know that he has looked into the depths of KMD's soul and he's utterly convinced that there's literally 0% chance that KMD ever flips town.

Spoiler: omg secrets within

He said I didn't make it clear how confident he felt.

[Cheetory6]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY GINNGIE ANOTHER ARI POST IN GD
VOTE: ari

[Cheetory6]

Wait why would I even mention the possibility of you being scum if I was scum planning on NKing you? Wouldn't it be better to shut up and let Aris die and keep you doing what you're doing first?

Can relay to him if you want, but it's kind of a ridiculous question though?

[Cheetory6]

Except this game scum needs to play with longevity in mind so you being quiet when you've been hard defending Ari all game would look terrible?

[Cheetory6]

Tell Gamma thanks for not helping you get into the game and only make a single comment that made your slot even worse looking.

[Cheetory6]

I remember when this game actually felt fun.

p-edit: yup.

[Cheetory6]

Take that chara.

[Cheetory6]

Lmfao.

[Cheetory6]

Spiff, how do you of all people, have any doubt at all that this is my towngame?
You really think I could have played like this as scum?
I find that really really hard to believe.

[Cheetory6]

Yeah lets rush another lynch like we did with Aristophanes.
Why even try at this point.

[Cheetory6]

Why?
My scumgame isn't good.
And I would never take one over a towngame.
Ever.

My play has been consistent from the start of the game and I would never be able to fake so many of the things I've done.
Can you not hipshoot bullshit at me that you should clearly know is wrong?

[Cheetory6]

Can we get a reiteration on the table for everyone in terms of why people are town or less likely to be town?
Is it really too much to ask for some effort on that front to just try to compile that for a bit before jumping right into wagons?

I really don't want this game on autopilot without at least thinking about it first.

[Cheetory6]

Honestly Ginngie, after yesterday and D3 you can stop with the quicklynch hysteria okay?
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I'm hoping we can collectively sort eight slots.
That's really not that much at the end of the day with two flipped scum.

People should try to put together cases for why people are town or scum and I'm going to compile reasoning into some kind of a nice Town vs Scum format for each player which encapsulates the collective reasoning people have in a way that's nice to digest.

I'm probably going to contribute to this a lot and I'm probably going to contribute a lot more if other people are also trying in this game.

I think with that information compiled and with people committing to informed stances we should have a much better shot at this.
Yes, I realize 7:1 is a great ratio.
I've seen dumber scumwins.

[Cheetory6]

can’t stop won’t stop?

I stopped calling you awful.
Please do me this courtesy.

Cheet did you ever comment on my KMD town case? If not what do you think?

I remember reading it, but I'm pretty sure I had already been townreading KMD at the time so it basically rolled off me at the time because I didn't care?

[Cheetory6]

And then Mathdino clarified on the next page, I don't understand what that has to do with my initial take on reading it?
If you want me to go back and read it, probably not happening tonight, dinner and then either dateThings/workThings.

[Cheetory6]

Nvm apparently I want to not accomplish anything IRL tonight.

Not only does KMD seem to not even be aware that Cabd was claiming friendly neighbor, he scolds Kagami on believing it in the first place.
If KMD were scum with Cabd, I would expect
1. Cabd to brief his scum buddies on his planned fake claim so KMD should probably know about it
2. KMD to not shit all over a friendly neighbor claim if he knows his scum buddy is trying to save himself with one

I frankly have no idea what the dynamic would be in the scumPT given Mulch/Cabd being a thing. Given Cabd's engagement with this game and his relationship with Mulch I don't really know if I believe that he necessarily plans anything at all and even so, that he shares it with anyone?

I think townKMD pushing Kagami for meta is a clear more likely reality over scumKMD jumping on someone while pretending that the friendly neighbor fakeclaim isn't there.

I think there's a more feasible outcome for scumKMD to have just not known either by not checking PT or the PT not being used in general.

Also this gives me pause

I only have one reason for reading him because the way he plays makes it hard to take him seriously. He has like 300 posts. Probably two are readable. So good luck finding them. As I've said before, if you want to policy Lynch him I'm not against it especially because it's what my team wants anyway. It just feels weird to do it when I think he's town. I will say I'd rather Lynch mulch than cabd.

because Mulch clearly had the better role and if given the choice scum!KMD would probably prefer to keep the roleblock over what was basically a goon. Especially since KMD had done so much work defending Mulch throughout the game, he wouldn't have had to make up a reason to justify wanting Cabd lynched over Mulch.

I don't understand why you're valuing his words over his actions in this regard? Because it doesn't really stack up with how he eventually does vote.

I remember there being better reasoning for him being town.

[Cheetory6]

Because Una can't protect all five slots?
If you're saying lynch Una if there's a death with a no lynch that's literally scum's prerogative to just try to outguess Una.

As much fun as throwing the game sounds, how about we listen to Patrick here instead of being arrogant after having just been wrong about Ari.

[Cheetory6]

VT btw.

[Cheetory6]

I think my plan is reasonable even if it isn’t completely soundproof

Una town, scum shoots in your pile, we lynch Una and we're fucked.
Found the place where sound gets through.

It's arrogant that you're trying to drive votes right now while Patrick is doing something after you just got something wrong. If someone pointed out the same thing to me about what I was doing, I would hesitate.

I get that I'm a giant fucking asshat when I play mafia, but I don't overestimate how good I am.
It's really too much for you to take a step back and let him do something instead of putting the no-lynch to L-2 before everyone has even checked in?

[Cheetory6]

My track record since has not been good and I can't replicate most aspects of my current iteration of my towngame. Me three years ago played almost exclusively on a logical basis with a more steady pace. Nowadays I'm emotional/post much more reactively. The latter is miles more difficult to replicate. The scumgame we won was with people I didn't know too. It would be a nightmare to try to recreate that in a playerlist that essentially entirely knows how I play.

[Cheetory6]

Are you a day-popcorn vender?

[Cheetory6]

And what if implosion/Spiff or KMD are a Mafia Goon?

[Cheetory6]

Oh wow we actually win lmfao.

[Cheetory6]

0% chance. It would be limited and scum would have used it by now, but probably just doesn't exist in terms of how Ether balances. I can believe this setup now.

[Cheetory6]

I guess we have to lynch me because I'm first in line from MathDino.
(:

[Cheetory6]

So what do we do now

I mean

Lynch Fire

Patrick or Una has to die
Patrick gets a result on Cheet or myself
Literally game

VOTE: Firebringer

[Cheetory6]

I won't be joining a Spiffeh or implosion wagon, I believe the 2018 lingo for that is tvt.

I hope Cheet enjoyed this.

I probably should have picked this up tbh. I wasn't really expecting you to be a PR.

P-Edit: I want Eddie Cane, Chara and Kagami back for the party.

[Cheetory6]

Only way we lose is if Patrick dies and we lynch Una and Una is town then lylo with Ginngie and I as the last choice.

[Cheetory6]

I really can't imagine Ether giving scum two ways to deal with the already limited power set though.

[Cheetory6]

Sorry for that scumteam roll Fire, that's fucking brutal.

[Cheetory6]

You had a roleblocker.
What was the informed goon? Did it not warn you about it?

[Cheetory6]

Two scum 1-shot roleblockers and an informed goon vs Doc/Back-up Doc and Neapolitan wouldn't pass balancing in a 13 player game so.

[Cheetory6]

Ether's gonna fight you on that. Lol. Three scumPRs is a lot.

[Cheetory6]

Never sheeping Transcend on anything again. Damn you doggo. You clearly can't be trusted around other dogs.

[Cheetory6]

Yeah this game's officially killed my will to play anything other than newbie queue.

[Cheetory6]

I don't really like who I am when I play mafia regardless. It takes a lot out of me and there's a considerable portion of my play in this game that's dedicated pretty much entirely to trying to rip on people. Even with the fake-guilty I just feel like I can't deal with this kind of stuff anymore without becoming a nasty ass on first instinct.

[Cheetory6]

also yeah shout out to keely for keeping me occasionally sane in this game

Also lol I'm not sure how I did it, but you're welcome.
Sorry for apparently sucking at reading you