Just Play the Hits uPick - Video Killed the Radio Star

[Mathdino]

I feel like I should weigh in on this because you're all technically chainsaw defending me, but I don't have a read on Espeonage yet, and want more interaction with him before I lock that in.

Interested to hear more thoughts on that front from Gamma/SKrew.

Gamma in particular, because you mentioned said earlier you were ready to go after me once you were done with the Godelwagon. Has anything changed?

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like I should weigh in on this because you're all technically chainsaw defending me, but I don't have a read on Espeonage yet, and want more interaction with him before I lock that in.

Interested to hear more thoughts on that front from Gamma/SKrew.

Gamma in particular, because you mentioned said earlier you were ready to go after me once you were done with the Godelwagon. Has anything changed?

Me being less interested in you after time had passed. I also kinda get the feelin you might be town a bit more now? dunno why tho, will check myuself on that

[SleepyKrew]

shut up and jam, mathdino
come on and slam, mathdino

[Mathdino]

i'm not voting espeonage if that's what you're asking

pls explain your vote thanks

[Venmar]

@pirate mollie

- do you read my #170 as sucking up to vaxx?

no because it reads tonally different from deathnote's posts.

comprende?

nope. i think dn's posts just read as him agreeing with people and i think you're nitpicking it, but i don't know why

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going off of Vaxx, Espeonage's posts on page 9 are upon scrutiny

bad

. i think what vaxx didn't mention but rubs me the wrong way the most is espeo's vote and jump onto mathdino, which reads like oppourtunistic and sheeping the gamestate. just bad feels all-around around the timing and tone of that vote in general.

@vaxx

- that said, i'd like to hear your thoughts on why you think math is town? anything to comment on the posts and points i and cooldog have made on him?

besides, it was him saying "but you guys I have to figure out how to use all these tasty tasty powers first" not him lurking that I took issue with

sorry if i don't immediately believe you there since #198 is vague and reads more like you getting caught up in the anti-lurker sentiment.

[DeathNote]

It's Monday. That means I can start playing more from this point on. I'm reading up and see that Esp has posted and now there is a slight push against him. No comments on anything specific yet but will try to get up to date today.

[Vaxkiller]

@vaxx - that said, i'd like to hear your thoughts on why you think math is town? anything to comment on the posts and points i and cooldog have made on him?

They have explained reads and detailed thoughts on multiple people and I agree with alot of what they are saying. I get scum can do this too, but I just don't see it.

Dino dismissing you talking with cooldog (while rude) and disliking wall posts seems pretty NAI to me. I really don't see any rolefishing. It took me forever to find the accused post. Cooldogs reasoning for voting isnt great (rolefish+saying wall posting sucks), and I think yours might be fueled by some emotion caused by mathdino? I dunno you tell me.

The hard town read on mollie after 1 wall post (which he admittedly hates)? Yeah I don't get that. Mollies stuff is ok, but I don't see any need for a hard town read there.

[xRECKONERx]

Votecount 1.9

Mathdino(4)

~ CooLDoG(10), Venmar(24), Varsoon(20), Espeonage(15)

Gödel(3)

~ Mathdino(26), hebichan(4), Sir Elton Hercules John(7)

Espeonage(3)

~ Vaxkiller(18), Gamma Emerald(22), SleepyKrew(20)

Vaxkiller(1)

~ Gödel(4)

hebichan(1)

~ DeathNote(20)

CooLDoG(1)

~ Napoleon III(7)

Assemblerotws(1)

~ pirate mollie(13)


Not Voting (1): Assemblerotws(3)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-03-05 07:15:00)

Godel is being force replaced for not responding to a prod.
Napoleon III is being prodded.

[hebichan]

I feel like I should weigh in on this because you're all technically chainsaw defending me, but I don't have a read on Espeonage yet, and want more interaction with him before I lock that in.

Interested to hear more thoughts on that front from Gamma/SKrew.

Gamma in particular, because you mentioned said earlier you were ready to go after me once you were done with the Godelwagon. Has anything changed?

Me being less interested in you after time had passed. I also kinda get the feelin you might be town a bit more now? dunno why tho, will check myuself on that

You've been feeling kinda undercommited and unsure this entire time and honestly Gamma has been bothering me since the initial math wagon, in light of godel not being around, gonna do this.

VOTE: gamma

Godel is probably replacing, and I would rather start fredh on that slot if that is the case.

[Vaxkiller]

but I don't have a read on Espeonage yet, and want more interaction with him before I lock that in.

Mathdino can you explain why you have to interact with someone to vote them?

I'm also bothered by the vernacular "lock that in" as if its a given you will vote but you are waiting, maybe I'm over thinking that tho.

[Varsoon]

@Mod: What do the numbers next to our names represent in the VC?

[Varsoon]

@Mod: What do the numbers next to our names represent in the VC?

Nevermind, figured it out, it's post count.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like I should weigh in on this because you're all technically chainsaw defending me, but I don't have a read on Espeonage yet, and want more interaction with him before I lock that in.

Interested to hear more thoughts on that front from Gamma/SKrew.

Gamma in particular, because you mentioned said earlier you were ready to go after me once you were done with the Godelwagon. Has anything changed?

Me being less interested in you after time had passed. I also kinda get the feelin you might be town a bit more now? dunno why tho, will check myuself on that

You've been feeling kinda undercommited and unsure this entire time and honestly Gamma has been bothering me since the initial math wagon, in light of godel not being around, gonna do this.

VOTE: gamma

Godel is probably replacing, and I would rather start fredh on that slot if that is the case.

Um what are you metaing me off of? I don't think I've played with you before.

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually how am I "undercommited"? I have the third most posts currently (with this should be tied for second). What are you defining as undercommited?

[Venmar]

@vaxx - that said, i'd like to hear your thoughts on why you think math is town? anything to comment on the posts and points i and cooldog have made on him?

Dino dismissing you talking with cooldog (while rude) and disliking wall posts seems pretty NAI to me. I really don't see any rolefishing. It took me forever to find the accused post. Cooldogs reasoning for voting isnt great (rolefish+saying wall posting sucks), and I think yours might be fueled by some emotion caused by mathdino? I dunno you tell me.

no emotion. i think his dismissal of my posts with varsoon is similar to the dismissing that you're criticizing espeonage for, but worse. math actively discredited a lengthy interaction between two players as garbage. i think it's a very alignment indicative mentality; i think the town pov would've been to either get a read out of the interaction or acknowledge the posting between varsoon and i and get different content out of us, whereas i genuinely think the scum pov is to just actively gloss over it all and tell everyone it's garbage.

i will also point out that i built on the case when i refuted math's points in #169, which math has still yet to respond to, btw.

but I don't have a read on Espeonage yet, and want more interaction with him before I lock that in.

Mathdino can you explain why you have to interact with someone to vote them?

I'm also bothered by the vernacular "lock that in" as if its a given you will vote but you are waiting, maybe I'm over thinking that tho.

will also point out that despite mathdino needing more interaction to get a read on espeonage, he was happy to slap a townread on sleepykrew, who he never interacted with.

[hebichan]

Where did I say "based off past games".

I'm not metaing you, I'm saying your position on mathdino and godel is shit because you are shading dino with no vote.

Plus MD is town.

[Varsoon]

Why do you say MD is town, Hebichan?


Not a huge fan of either the Godel wagon or the Espeonage one that's popped up.

[Gamma Emerald]

I thought you were using meta cos phrasing
And yeah I guess it's fair to call that push undercommited, but I was hoping to squeeze content out of Godel. Though I guess saying that my heart wasn't in it wouldn't really put the full pressure on either. I'm feeling my current vote though.

[xRECKONERx]

Kublai Khan replaces Godel.

[DeathNote]

I have no qualms voting Dino at this point but I'm going to stay on Hebi for now. After going back through the game a bit, I'm pretty torn on how oblivious Hebi tends to be vs Dino actively focusing on smaller cases in comparison to bigger ones. I see it as potential scum faking a case on anything he can find.

[Varsoon]

Feels like some real awkward positioning there, Deathnote. Why stick with Hebi over Dino?

[Kublai Khan]

Kublai Khan confirming. I will try to read the game by the end of tonight, but I'm finishing up some work stuff as I go so no promises.

@Mod - I'm sure it probably won't matter, but is my post count reset?

[xRECKONERx]

Kublai Khan confirming. I will try to read the game by the end of tonight, but I'm finishing up some work stuff as I go so no promises.

@Mod - I'm sure it probably won't matter, but is my post count reset?

Your post count starts over every 24 hours, and your predecessor hasn't posted in 24 hours, so...

[Gamma Emerald]

I have no qualms voting Dino at this point but I'm going to stay on Hebi for now. After going back through the game a bit, I'm pretty torn on how oblivious Hebi tends to be vs Dino actively focusing on smaller cases in comparison to bigger ones. I see it as potential scum faking a case on anything he can find.

Why are you staying on Hebi if you think Mathdino's behavior has a more clear scum motive?

[Espeonage]

Math why are you playing like shit?

Idk if I should scumread you for being scummy or townread you because you recently played heaps better than this as scum. Head, out of arse, in to a higher gear, and lets not be stupid and derail-y.

Disclaimer: While the godel wagon is/was shit, I see the frustrated townies being cool to jump on it so I will not attempt to read in to alignments based on that wagon's formation like deathnote.

What would you rather I do?

I wanted an early wagon to
A. Put pressure on the player being wagoned to explain their vote
B. Put pressure on the player being wagoned to actually do something so I can sort them
C. See who jumps on the wagon and get reads on these jumps
D. See how people react to the existence of the wagon

So far, I've gotten interesting material from who else jumped on it, and a whole lot of people calling the wagon shit without explaining why (this, for the record, is NAI but annoying).

But as a rule I will NEVER go ahead and unvote someone that I'm specifically trying to pressure, unless there's someone else I'm scumreading way harder.

Like I can see how it looks like I'm playing like shit because I haven't actually done much of anything outside of throwing reads and pushing this wagon, but this game being held up by lurkers is not going to help me get into the groove.

And I'll go ahead and tell you I'm better as town than as scum; don't go down that route of "Math is too stupid right now to be scum". But my early reads are generally no better than random; the strategy early game is to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.

You have to have known your Godel wagon was effectively an RVS wagon. There was no substance to it, and yet you treated it as something profound which is wasn't.

I'm definitely open to a discussion to get our minds in sync though, because you asre completely correct in there being almost no substance in this game thus far.

I'm not going to get in to a meta thing here either. We're barely out of rvs because nothing of note has actually happened here.