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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:51 am

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In post 423, Venmar wrote:also like can't we just force mathdino to use his negative and then no-lynch the next day to waste the clean? like the fact we can circumvent it doesn't make it add-up as a negative that reck would design to be negative, i think math might've just found a super scummy ability and claimed it as his negative

PEdit: i have been looking at his play lol. we're in claim territory now too and i felt like saying something about it
Oh my god this is actual genius thnx Venmar for bringing that up
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:55 am

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are fucking kidding me. math can litteraly be lying, do nothing, we no-lynch, and it proves nothing. it's not verifiable unless his clean is mod-announced. it's an extremely flawed "negative" role from a design perspective
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:57 am

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Why would town dino even be worried about using janitor N1 for the Day 2 flip? The only thing that pops into my head is it would help an SK, but he doesn't even mention an SK.

No he just immediately rolls over for town ans says "I wont use any of my abilities". If I had those abilities I would still want to try my hand at the Jailkeep on a scumspect.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:00 am

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In post 348, Mathdino wrote:Negative ability is a 1 shot next day janitor. Potentially the worst possible negative. I realised claiming was probably a bad idea on the logic of "LYNCH MATH BEFORE HE CAN USE IT" but w/e. It's confirmable by me not using it, like I said repeatedly and before I ever thought I'd get run up today.
Oh. never mind. It's a day lynch thing.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:49 am

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@Mathdino: is there any way to prove you've used your negative ability?
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:01 am

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@Vax : I swear dude you're the only person here scumreading me solely on my claim, which again, is hilarious, given that you were the one who asked for it.
What would you do if you were told that you had to use a next-day janitor in order to get supposedly good abilities, and you found your passive was a 1-shot ascetic? Do you assume that your entire role is shit, or that the ascetic can actually be used for something?
I went through mental gymnastics when I got the role to get to the point of thinking that the ascetic could possibly be useful. It's not.
How does doing all this benefit me as scum?

And to answer your question, I have literally assumed things about my roles in past role madness games that were not true because of wishful thinking.

@Venmar: Then wtf do you think my actual negative is? Do you want me to flavourclaim in full to prove I'm not making this shit up? Furthermore, why would I softclaim a negative this bad all game and broadcast that I wasn't gonna use it, if that was my targeted ability (thus balancing the game around me being able to use it)?
There seem to be 5 different interpretations of wtf is actually going on. The problem is 4 of them make me scum and 1 of them makes me town. So fuck it, go with the majority?
Occam's Razor is that I'm not lying (I don't fakeclaim, never have) and I was legitimately given a shit role.

@Gamma: Yeah, by using it and then lynching someone, which is obviously not what I'm doing.

Also why the fuck would I force the town to waste tomorrow's lynch so I can pick up a 1-shot Jailkeep and be un-investigatable/un-saveable?

There is 0 reason for me to ever use this negative. I'm not going to clean a flip just so people who think I'm scum lying about having a janitor know I actually had a janitor all along.

Also, it would be idiotic for me to fakeclaim janitor as scum when I could easily just be counterclaimed by some random townie. That's ridiculous. Either you think I'm telling the truth, or I have the janitor and I'm scum. Janitor fakeclaim is horrific.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:09 am

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There's literally no reason for scum dino to lie anyway given that every role was made before alignments were decided.
If anything, him being truthful about his claim, as scum, earns him more capacity to be townread because 'scum would never claim that'.

Regardless, I've thrown in the towel on this one and totally have just rolled over and accepted math = town.
If I'm wrong, fuck me, I guess.

Man, if I designed this setup, I'd give scum the factional ability to automatically make people's negative abilities resolve. That'd be a cool way to counter people claiming 'em but not using 'em. :P
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:59 am

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I see that dino is still alive
Must be time to lynch Napoleon
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:00 am

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w/e I was thinking about something but since Math's role is useless overall I don't think I care to
I still wanna lynch Napoleon but I kinda feel like his posting so far is okay...?
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:48 am

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In post 433, Gamma Emerald wrote:I still wanna lynch Napoleon but I kinda feel like his posting so far is okay...?
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:12 pm

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I like Vax's Espe case, gonna have to Iso there.

Not seeing Mathdino scum, but I'll see if that changes.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:39 pm

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In post 433, Gamma Emerald wrote:w/e I was thinking about something but since Math's role is useless overall I don't think I care to
I still wanna lynch Napoleon but I kinda feel like his posting so far is okay...?
Why would you still want to lynch him? Feels like scum trying to case not voting on a buddy.

Still thinking gamma is scum, just not seeing it getting traction today and I also feel pretty decent about napoleon scum.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:43 pm

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In post 436, hebichan wrote:
In post 433, Gamma Emerald wrote:w/e I was thinking about something but since Math's role is useless overall I don't think I care to
I still wanna lynch Napoleon but I kinda feel like his posting so far is okay...?
Why would you still want to lynch him? Feels like scum trying to case not voting on a buddy.

Still thinking gamma is scum, just not seeing it getting traction today and I also feel pretty decent about napoleon scum.
Why wouldn't I unvote?
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:48 pm

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"I want to lynch him but his posts today have been good" might as well be the battlecry of noncommital scum.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:08 pm

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In post 431, Varsoon wrote:There's literally no reason for scum dino to lie anyway given that every role was made before alignments were decided.
If this is his is true his claim basically becomes null. This setup is probably swingy as fuck...

Hmmm... to lynch math or not. My gut check says that he is scum because I've been reading that on him for the entire game. On the other hand it is true that his reason posts are better, and given what varsoon sas the recent claim isn't as bad.

I just don't buy the lurker with little content alt-wagon. hmm... I have time to sleep on it. I'll try and be around for deadline.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:10 pm

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Dude I've told you my scumspects

The problem is most of the people null and below are willing to counterwagon me

We don't have the time for me to conjure up a counterwagon on hebichan and I hate the Espeonage wagon
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:52 pm

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In post 439, CooLDoG wrote:
In post 431, Varsoon wrote:There's literally no reason for scum dino to lie anyway given that every role was made before alignments were decided.
If this is his is true his claim basically becomes null.
In post 405, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 395, Mathdino wrote:
@Mod: Can you confirm that abilities were assigned to players after their alignments were created?
What I want to say is: read the post you quoted.
What I will say is: yes!
literally on the previous page the mod reiterated that alignments were determined before abilities were doled out
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:56 pm

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will die by the dino wagon atm. everyone else needs to make up their life choices now.

Pedit: i think everyone's negative is scum-utility at best so meh. my negative literally only aids scum. a janitor claim should NOT be be clearing someone here

and no i'm not doubling-down on the just JUST because of the claim. i still think dino is scum by play, and it's too late in the dayphase for me to consider changing course. napoleon is a decent alternative though one im not willing to join this day
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:27 pm

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Oh, then I guess I can't read.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:14 am

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HI FRIENDS I'M AT L-2 WITH <2 DAYS ON DEADLINE



if you ever think i'll be of any value to this game, we need to counterwagon asap

continued reminder that napoleon has done nothing

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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:17 am

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idk about this Mathdino!scum idea
Do you not think more would be stepping up to defend him if he were scum?
I think regardless of his claim I want to leave him alive for now
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:54 am

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I admit I'm unsure if Mathdino is scum. But he is easily the most anti-town person in the game (both in role and posting).
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:00 am

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mathdino is the most anti-town person posting wise????

hey gamma don't think I don't see you ignoring me/hebi
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:08 am

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I post my full reads and a fullclaim with a goddamn lynchpool what the hell do you want from me

Call me scum, fine

But I am NOT a fucking anti town player

You're literally putting me beneath Assembler, UT, cooldog, hebi, napoleon

Dunno wtf is wrong with you man i haven't had anyone engage me on that level of analysis

At how many years of mafia experience are you allowed to just not discuss reads with anyone
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 am

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In post 446, Kublai Khan wrote:I admit I'm unsure if Mathdino is scum. But he is easily the most anti-town person in the game (both in role and posting).
What the fuck
Tell me how his posting is anti-town
In post 447, SleepyKrew wrote:mathdino is the most anti-town person posting wise????

hey gamma don't think I don't see you ignoring me/hebi
What do you want? Hebi I think all I'd be doing is going around in circle if I argued with her so I'm not cos geriatric guidelines say not to do that
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