Mini 1991: Taking Justice Into Our Own Hands (Town Win)

[Mumble]

Hey cool...it's Friday night and I don't feel like reading.

Who do I need to vote? I'm leaning towards purplename guy.

Also...

Hi.

[Mumble]

Oh, I read anyway...that was...nice.

VOTE: Lexa

[Mumble]

Pretty sure we got ourselves a textbook case of OMGUS right there. Can't handle the pressure very well, can you?

[Mumble]

Of being made the leading wagon?

See, this is basic psychology, something that I said or did struck a nerve. I'm inclined to think it was me voting you and making you the leading wagon. It's why you didn't really react strongly to NSG or rb, but you did to me.

I've got to do the dishes. Be back soon. Much love, Lexa.

[Mumble]

ok why is the lexa wagon getting so much momentum but my Q vote & minicase went nowhere

did I hit scum or something?

Better question. Are you concerned that the Lexa wagon is getting momentum?

[Mumble]

I thought I was already the leading wagon so no, it wasn't that

No you didn't. Your post was immediately after the votecount.

Try again.

Alexcellent is now guilty of the same thing

And, so...

[Mumble]

This occurred concurrently to the vote count being posted and it wasn't something that affected my response when the pedit thing came up. That's a fact and don't you dare try and tell me otherwise.

Vote count came an hour before my post/vote.

Try again.

And so you're my current priority and he's joined the line.

Why me over him? Am I pushing to hard, and he's just kinda "meh"?

[Mumble]

EBWOP: disregard my last re: post timing, thought you were referring to a different post

As for voting reasons, they are what I said. You entered the game by jumping on a wagon without any game advancing content. That gets a vote everytime.

My defense is faltering! Grasps for straws, ensign!

So me and Alex did the same thing. Why not vote him. It gets a vote everytime.

[Mumble]

So, in your thought process, me and Alex are both scum? Why not NSG or havingfitz (or rb for that matter)?

[Mumble]

My vote is on you!

Which is pure OMGUS at this point...just going to point that out.

[Mumble]

It was a post that happened an hour or so ago, and pointed out that you naked voted me after I voted you, thus pointing out the OMGUS-factor.

[Mumble]

Btw, you followed up with a post asking "What pressure" which I answered.

[Mumble]

Should I recap that game for you?

[Mumble]

So, in your thought process, me and Alex are both scum? Why not NSG or havingfitz (or rb for that matter)?

You know what, why don't you take a moment and iso me because that's not my thought process and there's really no rational way you could conclude that it is

I did. Didn't see a thought process.

Care to explain?

[Mumble]

Is it not a requirement for you that OMGUS have some sort of emotional investment?

Which was because of the pressure when you became the leading wagon....which I pointed out.

Lieutenant J.G. "Grasping Straws"

Hey! You got promoted.

[Mumble]

Is it not a requirement for you that OMGUS have some sort of emotional investment?

Which was because of the pressure when you became the leading wagon....which I pointed out.

Lieutenant J.G. "Grasping Straws"

Hey! You got promoted.

[Mumble]

Mumble is OMGUS scummy? I mean you keep saying OMGUS but is it a general scumtell? better question how is it scummy in this case? A lot of the time I see OMGUS i never see it pushed with this angle, its always ironic or overlooked kind of like how no one does NKA

Yes? It's an emotional reaction to pressure. When there is an immediate reactionary vote without reason, it lends credence towards some reason for it happening.

Why vote me immediately after I start pressuring? Sure, an hour later the slot came up with somewhat of a reason, but there was an immediate reaction.

Granted, it could be newbtown who doesn't want to get lynched, but I don't see that in Lexa.

[Mumble]

Here's a thought, how about you stop projecting your own thoughts and ascribing behaviours to me that aren't true?

Well, it's a mafia game. I can only go by what I am sensing/reading.

I'll go ahead and project those thoughts and ascribed behaviors as I think they are appropriate.

[Mumble]

You voted me on zero reasoning after directly claiming not to have invested in the game state.

If you read...I stated I had read. Shocker! You didn't. I voted you on wagon pressure since Havo had already been L-1'd. You reacted badly. Your recovery is also bad. Also, your ISO is fairly defensive.

p-edit

I'll back off for now to see others thoughts on this exchange. Fairly ok with putting you in my scumpool for D1.

[Mumble]

Oh, I read anyway...that was...nice.

VOTE: Lexa

To be more clear, your ISO was defensive before I entered the game.

Can we both now shut up for now? I'm willing to...are you?

(super shocked if this is not scum btw)

[Mumble]

Sarcastic bitch/weekend prodge.

[Mumble]

Mumble is a town lean for me at this point.

I thought you said Lexa's read list was in line with yours except for your positioning? Pretty sure she has me as her top scum read.

[Mumble]

That was before I ISOd you. Hence change in that read.

So what was it that made you strongly scumread me prior to ISOing me?

[Mumble]

Poe...you weren't among the people I was considering town. I still needed to give you a closer look. So Lexa having you as a scum read was not something I was opposed to at that time pending said closer look.

Cool. Look forward to your thoughts on Lexa.

[Mumble]

Can I double vote Lexa?

[Mumble]

Awoo...stop posting.

[Mumble]

I'm Town Doctor, so you all can fuck the fuck off and vote Lexa.

Eddie is town.

[Mumble]

rb is prob scum because if he was town he would do a better job sorting.

[Mumble]

Are you completely dense to think that that role is a counterclaim to doctor?

[Mumble]

Oh god...you're just dumb scum.

[Mumble]

Or entirely dumb...because if I get lynched, you're shot.

[Mumble]

Like you claiming that did nothing to impact my lynch, and if it's true, you were shitheaded dumb.

[Mumble]

^
Lynch this either way so the slot will learn.

p-edit

@lexa

[Mumble]

I missed that I suppose. Even so without the vote cast and without someone declaring intent it's premature.

Luca said he was going to put me at L-1 -> I was headed to bed -> seeing games/players on this site (see: Not_Mafia), I had absolutely not trust that someone would give intent and everyone would wait. You can think it's premature. I didn't.

Someone who I

know

has directly lied about things I've done or said to push pressure on me comes out at the most convenient moment for him to claim what is in theory the safest role claim in this game* to attack me again is the reddest of red flags. Especially when my own role implies that his claim should at least have a modifier attached.

*idk how 'role power' is seen but i would assume that in a game with no cops doc is pretty up there

I haven't lied about shit you twit.

[Mumble]

Rb...what do you think about Riggs?

Don’t ask me to read through...I’m on mobile and I cbf’d.

[Mumble]

Eh...ok then.

[Mumble]

Should I vote Riggs, Eddie? Cuz you and Lexa are both on the wagon...

[Mumble]

Should I vote Riggs, Eddie? Cuz you and Lexa are both on the wagon...

i've thought about flipping to cedrick, because GNR is more blanket useless than scummy useless. the reads list thing makes it the scummy side though, especially since he was asked a question and /still/ isn't back. your call, i think it could go either way but red is more likely.

I’m still here. I’m hesitant because Lexa is on it.

I’ll wait for a bit and may sleep on it to see what happens.

[Mumble]

I’m a bit pissed atm. Let ou know in the morning.

But, yea, Lexa is scum. Don’t see me deviating from that. Like that is something I have a strong gut feel for.

Rb is prob scum too, although it’s alleviating a bit with his recent posting. Zito, Havo, you town. Msg null. I want fitz to be town, but I’m a bit paranoid. Alex/Riggs dunno. Cedric scum, but that almost seems to convenient with the hard defending Lexa and push on me.

Edit

Oh hey Awoo is a thing too. Dunno on him.

Edit2

Cedric is annoying.

[Mumble]

soo lexa

give me a rundown of each player rn, your thoughts and shtuff. 2-5 lines each.

Papa Zito: They've gone way up in my esteem once they started posting. Clear, consistent, logical thoughts, nothing hasty or rash, I pretty much find myself nodding along with them every time they post. I don't agree with their stance on cedrick but everything they were saying when they were part of the earlier push on him was meritous and reasonable. Are now actively pushing to sort people, seemingly successfully. In a roundabout answer to rb I'm not worried about him being on cedrick because I'm confident he's either going to move away or prove me wrong.

Alex: Wish they would post more. They're pretty similar to zito in how they post and I've really liked their thought process. The things they laid out way back at the beginning of the game were thought processes and explanations that you don't see scum have or certainly don't see them lay out. They haven't posted enough to really gauge how they'll perform for the rest of the game but in a vacuum a happy town read.

Eddie: To be perfectly honest I'm completely meta reading you knowing how you post and I'm pretty sure you're town, willing to bet it's more likely that numberq was a LiquetyQuickety type situation where everything they say just comes off scummy. Confident I can tell if you're actually scum by day 3 at worst.

Cedrick: Not really impressive as far as gamesolving goes but the strongest tone read I have, helps that I know that they're defense of me has been accurate and to keep up that degree of conviction for so long is almost impossible as scum.

Luca: Getting kind of null her but he's produced strong content overall, he's been level headed, pushed in appropriate places and at appropriate times and has generally been a voice of reason. Could definitely see this slot flipping red down the line but it would take night results to lynch him in the next couple days.

Awoo: I want to think this slot is town but I don't really know anymore tbqh, I've liked what I've seen from them in general but their content has fallen off a lot and they haven't really pushed to advance the game state since early in the day. They have some good faith from me but I'm watching.

RB: As enigmatic as they were the first time we played. Pretty sure I'm going to have to leave the reads on this slot to others but I'm trying to get what I can from him. Haven't seen anything noticeably scummy from him, a couple town tells here and there, him and Havo are pretty much as hard null as it gets.

Havo: Needs to post more. Presumably we'll get something from them on d2 given their dislike of d1. I've got my walls to reference in any case so I expect to have them somewhat sorted soon.tm

NSG: Falling in esteem as I think she is with everyone but there's still decent reason to think she might be town, as I said to rb I found her pushes on me early in the day to be fairly genuine so she gets credit for that. Should be something more concrete once she catches up.

Fitz: Can see this slot going either way and it's the most interesting for that reason. Their interactions with cedrick feel a lot like the way I was being seen after mumble fight #1, they're being obnoxious for no particular reason and it could easily stem from some bullheaded conviction that they're right. On the other hand there's some fairly compelling evidence to their buddying Mumble which makes that a viable scum team and he's essentially been doing the exact thing to mumble that he's crucifying Cedrick for. Beyond that his posts aren't really impressive either way as far as game sorting goes, it's been one tunnel to another for a while now.

Riggs: Can't rightly scum read what doesn't post but the whole will catchup in a few mins and then disappear is a baaaad look. Lurk scum, lurk town, who knows.

Mumble: See wall #235239

tl:dr - no real stance. Anyone could be anything except for Mumble.

[Mumble]

VOTE: Cedrick

[Mumble]

VOTE: Lexa

Preferred lynch obvs.

[Mumble]

Spoiler: Dumbweed

Like, I get if you're a town PR, especially a Doc, you want to lie low and hit the middle of the pack on everyone's readlists. Totally fair and tbh I thought, looking back at Mumble's play after he claimed, that was maybe what was going on. But once someone's outed they may as well play hard for the extremely short time they've got left in the game and yet here we are. Mumble isn't doing anything in this game at all but working towards self-preservation. It doesn't compute. But a lot doesn't compute in this game so zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I have no sense of self-preservation Dumbweed, above not being lynched today. I full expect to die, so all I want is to get one scum out of it. Lexa is scum. Hell, if I'm wrong and I'm not killed tonight, powerlynch me tomorrow. idgaf. I'm that sure.

Spoiler: Dillweed

I've become very confident Zito is Town based on his recent posts - his thought process is pretty much the same as mine.

The only thing that's kept me from voting Mumble has been the fact he seemed fairly assured with his claim (he could always be Mafia Doctor though, which would explain this) and the fact Cane, who I'm town leaning, meta defends him while meta attacking Lexa. However, Cane says Mumble essentially prodges as scum, and apart from his argument with Lexa that is what he's essentially done this game.

I don't trust Fissure's urgency to have Lexa lynched at all - I hoped cutting him some lack would give him a chance to calm down and lay out his thoughts properly, but I was wrong so I'm back here again.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Fissure

Hey, Dillweed...I've claimed and am likely dead tonight...my investment has kinda been shot. Not too mention, I haven't prodged...I'm almost always inactive on weekends.

Dillweed possibly scum who thought Lexa was going through and wanted to get on that sweet wagon.

I'm gonna stick with my Lexa/Luca/Havo scumteam

Agree, except for Havo right now.

Win, I was lynched he was not, but only cause of massive town fuck-up

Eh...ok. But, yeah, I'm not scumble.

[Mumble]

Every time I read something I get more unhappy. Today's edition is Mumbles' blatant wagon-hopping.

Hey, Dumbweed...missed this part.

How many wagons have I been on today to qualify for blatant wagon-hopping, especially when you ignore the context of the Cedric swap?

Am I tunneling or blatant wagon-hopping?

Or some other awesome buzzword the Purple Named guys created?

[Mumble]

Lexa/Luca/PZ?

Luca/PZ/rb have all done the same lame thing around the Lexa wagon...not sure. rb hasn't unvoted yet so....i guess not the same thing. He just expressed hesitancy on the front end.

[Mumble]

Hi. I wasn't scum.