Mini 809 ~ Mafia ViPod (Game Over!)

[Sotty7]

Not sure if pesco is still the most scummy at the moment. Hascow and PP both need a re-investigation. Will post again when I've had some actual sleep.

"...But until then I'll just leave my vote on Pesco in case someone decides to hammer and I get to help a mislynch while distancing myself from the wagon a bit."

One, looking at Vi's vote count Pesco was at lynch -2 so that would have to be a couple of quick votes.

And two, how do you know it will be a mislynch?

[X]

--We are seven days into this Day. Activity on average

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Um, so should we expect 2-week Days?

Rule 27, go-- ~Vi

Not sure if pesco is still the most scummy at the moment. Hascow and PP both need a re-investigation. Will post again when I've had some actual sleep.

"...But until then I'll just leave my vote on Pesco in case someone decides to hammer and I get to help a mislynch while distancing myself from the wagon a bit."

QFT.

Empking, are you even in this game?

Have you said anything all day?

Yes & Yes.

You?

Did zwets still Empking's password? Are you post restricted?

Role fishing?

Bad call. Point of Order. It's only rolefishing if you're looking for Power Roles. Post Restrictions have no correlation with Power Roles. Talking about the rules (on X). End Point of Order.

One, looking at Vi's vote count Pesco was at lynch -2 so that would have to be a couple of quick votes.

And two, how do you know it will be a mislynch?

It was a hypothetical. Moriatory could be scummy for this, assuming that Pesco is Town (which was what Moriatory was guessing).

[elvis_knits]

Not sure if pesco is still the most scummy at the moment. Hascow and PP both need a re-investigation. Will post again when I've had some actual sleep.

"...But until then I'll just leave my vote on Pesco in case someone decides to hammer and I get to help a mislynch while distancing myself from the wagon a bit."

QFT.

QFT? Really?

I didn't think moriarty's post was that bad. Moriarty basically said he's sucpicious of some other people besides pesco, but not sure they're more scummy yet.

image is putting words in moriarty's mouth that are WIFOM at best.

Also, I think image (and X) are being super harsh to moriarty for keeping a vote on pesco just because moriarty is not SURE pesco is the MOST scummy anymore. OBV moriarty still thinks pesco is scummy.

A slight waver in confidence doesn't seem like such a big deal.

One, looking at Vi's vote count Pesco was at lynch -2 so that would have to be a couple of quick votes.

And two, how do you know it will be a mislynch?

It was a hypothetical. Moriatory could be scummy for this, assuming that Pesco is Town (which was what Moriatory was guessing).

Moriarty was guessing that Pesco is town? Where do you get that? Do you mean image?

If you meant moriarty, you're putting words in his mouth even more. Just because he said he wasn't SURE that pesco was still the most scummy, that IN NO WAY means that moriarty thought pesco is town.

[image]

Not sure if pesco is still the most scummy at the moment. Hascow and PP both need a re-investigation. Will post again when I've had some actual sleep.

"...But until then I'll just leave my vote on Pesco in case someone decides to hammer and I get to help a mislynch while distancing myself from the wagon a bit."

One, looking at Vi's vote count Pesco was at lynch -2 so that would have to be a couple of quick votes.

And two, how do you know it will be a mislynch?

It wouldn't need to be quick votes; just two before Moriarty gets around to posting again.

I don't know that Pesco would be a mislynch. I was implying that Moriarty did, and was attempting to distance himself from the wagon without actually moving it farther from a lynch.

[elvis_knits]

You're reading a lot into Moriarty's post.

[image]

Perhaps; I don't think it is a very strong point. Noteworthy, though, at least.

[hasdgfas]

Cow also needs to post moar, and especially not call out other lurkers (can you say hypocrite?)

Yeah, I know
I haven't had a consistent computer to post on since the game started, so I'm really disappointed with what I'm doing so far. Anyway, that's neither here nor there.

Not sure if pesco is still the most scummy at the moment. Hascow and PP both need a re-investigation. Will post again when I've had some actual sleep.

"...But until then I'll just leave my vote on Pesco in case someone decides to hammer and I get to help a mislynch while distancing myself from the wagon a bit."

One, looking at Vi's vote count Pesco was at lynch -2 so that would have to be a couple of quick votes.

And two, how do you know it will be a mislynch?

It wouldn't need to be quick votes; just two before Moriarty gets around to posting again.

I don't know that Pesco would be a mislynch. I was implying that Moriarty did, and was attempting to distance himself from the wagon without actually moving it farther from a lynch.

This post(and image in general) kind of rub me the wrong way.

I mean, that post doesn't at all imply knowledge of pesco being a mislynch. There are(almost definitely) more than one anti-town player to lynch, so not being the most scummy =/= mislynch.

In addition, the entire part with him suspecting Moriarty seems to me to be pushing the town to suspect someone without doing anything to link himself to that lynch. Then he backs off of it, saying it's not a very strong point. Really? You seemed to be making it strong to me, by putting it in its own post.

IGMEOY

Also, image, anything to say about pesco, f-light, or Sotty? I don't think I've seen you mention them at all.

[Sotty7]

Well Has, that was the first time you mentioned me wasn't it? So what's your point there?

Really didn't like how X jumped right in and answered the question for image

[hasdgfas]

Well Has, that was the first time you mentioned me wasn't it? So what's your point there?

You're very UTR. Plus, getting everyone to talk about everyone can only help in the long run. Actually, was that not in that post?

Weird, I thought my previous post said something about how I was going to look at you closer because you were so UTR. Apparently it got cut out :-/

But yeah, that's what I'm planning on doing later tonight.

[elvis_knits]

Sotty seems town to me, btw.

[VP Baltar]

You're very UTR.

I don't know if I agree with this. She seems to be posting nearly everyday and is adding content. Please explain how she is going under the radar.

[Vi]

Listen to the ground:
There is movement all around.
There is something goin' down
And I can feel it.

Vote Count X:

We know how to do it

Pesco47 (L-2) ~ Moriarty147, VP Baltar, elvis_knits, hasdgfas, Juls

PaperPenguin (L-4) ~ image, X, Sotty7
VP Baltar (L-5) ~ Empking, Pesco47
Empking (L-6) ~ forbiddanlight
image (L-6) ~ PaperPenguin

Minimum (L-7)

[size=0]image 0 | e_knits 0 | Empking 0 | f-light 0 | hascow 0 PROD1 2 | Juls 0 | Pesco 3-1 | Mo 1 PROD1 2 | P-Pengy 2 | Sotty7 0 | VP Baltar 0 | X 0[/size]

---I may not be here tomorrow night. I won't do anything mean with the battery power if I have to make up a night... unless you deserve it

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[Juls]

Role restriction doesn't indicate alignment but nice try.

I mentioned alignment when?
Do you think trying to fish people's alignment is scummy?
Are you trying to subtly imply that your role fishing was town-like?

It's very town-like. I am trying to determine if you are being a complete idiot, are active lurking, or post restricted. Right now I am leaning toward scum idiot.

[hasdgfas]

You're very UTR.

I don't know if I agree with this. She seems to be posting nearly everyday and is adding content. Please explain how she is going under the radar.

Not UTR as in never here. I've noticed she's been posting a lot, it's more that I haven't really seen a whole lot of comments on her by other players. I don't know what I think of that. That's why I'm currently reading her in iso.

[Sotty7]

You're very UTR.

I don't know if I agree with this. She seems to be posting nearly everyday and is adding content. Please explain how she is going under the radar.

Not UTR as in never here. I've noticed she's been posting a lot, it's more that I haven't really seen a whole lot of comments on her by other players. I don't know what I think of that. That's why I'm currently reading her in iso.

Everyone is ignoring me!! /tantrum

But no, I think I know what you are driving at. I found it hard to get into a good rhythm with the game with how it started with EK and VP going back and forth. I still don't think I am quite there, but things are getting better. Probably has something to do with it.

Well Has, that was the first time you mentioned me wasn't it? So what's your point there?

I basically asked this because it seemed to me that 99% of your post was putting suspicion on Image and then out of nowhere you try and hook myself and Forb in with him. I found it pretty strange. Especially considering you were equally as guilty as Image with the whole not mentioning me.

[Sotty7]

And looking back just now it doesn't seem like you have mentioned Forb either....

What do you think of her so far?

[hasdgfas]

Well Has, that was the first time you mentioned me wasn't it? So what's your point there?

I basically asked this because it seemed to me that 99% of your post was putting suspicion on Image and then out of nowhere you try and hook myself and Forb in with him. I found it pretty strange. Especially considering you were equally as guilty as Image with the whole not mentioning me.

I'm not sure how suspicious of image I am right now. Mostly I'm just getting a weird feeling. Where do you get that I'm trying to hook you and f-light in with him? I mean, I asked what he thought of you two, but that's because I'm seriously curious. Plus, it can't hurt to have the info in the thread, can it?

And looking back just now it doesn't seem like you have mentioned Forb either....

What do you think of her so far?

Is it all right if I save my thoughts until after image has commented? I do have thoughts regarding her, but I don't want them in the thread just yet. Does that make sense?

[Sotty7]

Well Has, that was the first time you mentioned me wasn't it? So what's your point there?

I basically asked this because it seemed to me that 99% of your post was putting suspicion on Image and then out of nowhere you try and hook myself and Forb in with him. I found it pretty strange. Especially considering you were equally as guilty as Image with the whole not mentioning me.

I'm not sure how suspicious of image I am right now. Mostly I'm just getting a weird feeling. Where do you get that I'm trying to hook you and f-light in with him? I mean, I asked what he thought of you two, but that's because I'm seriously curious. Plus, it can't hurt to have the info in the thread, can it?

No, I have no issue with Image commenting on anyone in the game, that's the whole point of this whole song and dance isn't it? Post 189 is you following up on a line of questioning that I myself started on Image. You wonder out loud about his motivations behind the post he made and end it with a IGMEOY. To me it was clear you found something suspicious or at least a bit strange about him. You even say he rubs you the wrong way.

Then you say he hasn't mentioned myself, Forb or Pesco and it felt like you were trying to forge a connection between us. Perhaps I am

too

paranoid, but that just rubbed me the wrong way considering you also haven't mentioned two of us. It read to me that you were adding to your suspicion of him because of this fact, or at least trying to shed a bad light on him.

It was just odd to me.

Is it all right if I save my thoughts until after image has commented? I do have thoughts regarding her, but I don't want them in the thread just yet. Does that make sense?

Yup, makes sense. I can wait.

[hasdgfas]

Then you say he hasn't mentioned myself, Forb or Pesco and it felt like you were trying to forge a connection between us. Perhaps I am too paranoid, but that just rubbed me the wrong way considering you also haven't mentioned two of us. It read to me that you were adding to your suspicion of him because of this fact, or at least trying to shed a bad light on him.

It was just odd to me.

That wasn't actually supposed to be adding to suspicion. I simply wanted more info in the thread. I thought that it had been obvious that the IGMEOY was the end of suspicions. Sorry

[Empking]

Role restriction doesn't indicate alignment but nice try.

I mentioned alignment when?
Do you think trying to fish people's alignment is scummy?
Are you trying to subtly imply that your role fishing was town-like?

It's very town-like. I am trying to determine if you are being a complete idiot, are active lurking, or post restricted. Right now I am leaning toward scum idiot.

Why didn't you answer the questions?
Why do you think rolefishing is a good thing?
Are you scum?
Do you think insults are good cases?

[Juls]

Do I think alignment fishing is scummy? Um no...that is called scum hunting. When I asked about role restriction you said I was role-fishing. I was not. I was simply looking to see if you had a reason for being so short and useless.

Why do I think rolefishing is a good thing?...that is a misrep. I do not think rolefishing is a good thing and you trying to cast that on me seems to be a pathetic attempt to throw attention toward me.

Am I scum? No.

Do I think insults are good cases? My case on you is not about insults. It is about you being useless and therefore antitown. Now that I know you are antitown I am trying to figure out if you are scum.

So, I think as weak as these questions are that you have to be deflecting scum.

Unvote, vote Empking

[elvis_knits]

Empking doesn't have a post restriction. He's always like this. Haven't you ever played with him before? I have seen him make similarly useless/nonsensical comments as both town and scum. I would prefer him as a fallback lynch. Our battery power is going down pretty fast, so if we absolutely can't agree on some of the scummier people, then I say we go for empking. Otherwise, I think we have bigger fish to fry.

I would prefer a lynch of
1)Pesco
2)image
3)X

Pesco's outs someone at L-1 on page 4, and the psycholinguistics stuff is nonsense, and he refused the address my questions once and then disappeared. The VLA may be totally innocent, but the refusal to answer my questions and continue the convo still stands. Plus tried to set up that one or both of me and VP Baltar must be scum. Which is getting close to setting up lynches.

image for putting words in moriarty's mouth.

X for QFTing image putting words in moriarty's mouth and also answering sotty's question directed to image.

I am somewhat suspicious of Juls and how she seems to prefer lynching empking over pesco. First by voting empking over pesco when they both voted VP Baltar, and I think pesco's vote was worse. And now by returning to empking when nothing is resolved with pesco. (Although, I understand the impulse to keep challenging other players when pesco is VLA... we don't want to just twiddle our thumbs. So maybe that's what juls is doing.).

Anyway, I see a possible connection between image and X, and also a connection between pesco and juls. Also FL possible connection to pesco/juls, for similar reasons as I see juls with pesco. This is sort of unimportant until one of these people pops up scum. I don't present it as evidence against any of them, but just for later use if it becomes pertinent.

[elvis_knits]

SHould be "Pesco puts someone at L-1 on page 4"

[image]

Not sure if pesco is still the most scummy at the moment. Hascow and PP both need a re-investigation. Will post again when I've had some actual sleep.

"...But until then I'll just leave my vote on Pesco in case someone decides to hammer and I get to help a mislynch while distancing myself from the wagon a bit."

image for putting words in moriarty's mouth.

Would you have found it better if I had written something more along these lines?

Not sure if pesco is still the most scummy at the moment. Hascow and PP both need a re-investigation. Will post again when I've had some actual sleep.

If you are questioning pesco's scumminess, why are you leaving your vote on him? Are you hoping he'll wind up getting lynched, but simultaneously trying to distance yourself from the wagon?

This is the message I was trying to convey, although in a more sardonic manner. You will also note that Moriarty has yet to post his promised analysis.

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Then he backs off of it, saying it's not a very strong point. Really? You seemed to be making it strong to me, by putting it in its own post.

IGMEOY

Also, image, anything to say about pesco, f-light, or Sotty? I don't think I've seen you mention them at all.

Merely because I did not have much else I felt worth saying at the time. You will note that it is unaccompanied by any of a Vote, a FoS, or even an IGMEOY.

I did not at first find Pesco suspicious for attacking both VP and Elvis. Of course, he subsequently fails at backing up his vote on elvis, eventually falling back on

gut

intuition. I would now place him somewhere between neutral and scum.
Fairly neutral read about FL. Mildly concerned that she refuses to take a side with respect to elvis/VP Baltar/pesco, and rather throws blanket suspicion on all of them, but this is (for the moment) an acceptable stance.
Mild pro-town read on Sotty.

[Empking]

Empking doesn't have a post restriction. He's always like this. Haven't you ever played with him before? I have seen him make similarly useless/nonsensical comments as both town and scum. .

Names please.