OP, I don't think you should claim and I find those requesting you to a bit suspicious. In general, especially early, claims give scum ammunition.
orangepenguin wrote:I obviously look scummy, since Crazy died. I think the flavor pretty much rules me out though, but that's from my perspective.
It is from my perspective. too, because of the following...
orangepenguin wrote:
An unidentified suspect broke through various levels of security. Now, had I been the stranger, I wouldn't have needed to break in, I was already there. So was Crazy. Since it was through various levels and stuff, that indicates an outside source.
This makes more than a little sense to me. An inside "break in" just doesn't add up. But this doesn't clear you. There is a possibility that you are merely the benefactor of a misguided vig. I do think others are scummier than you at this point and with your willingness to go back to jail, I think there are better candidates to send from today.
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For instance...
DragonsofSummer's (entire contribution so far)
DragonsofSummer wrote:/confirm
DragonsofSummer wrote:send Crazy
send OrangePenguin
I have no problems with the plan at all, but it does get complicated there are night kills.
DragonsofSummer wrote:That kill worries me, and I agree that we have now found the hole in the plan. The biggest problem is we gain no information from that night because of it. Basically an entire day was wasted imo.
DragonsofSummer wrote:send SlySly
send Orangepenguin
Do I even need to point out the contradictory scuminess here? Usually I stay away from lurkers, but this one has boldy complained about the lack of effort from everyone.
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CarnCarn, in 199, wrote:
I will elaborate on my position about why sending 2 scum into prison is a good idea for town, and bad for scum...
...I actually asked the mod about this in the pregame phase. I wondered why scum wouldn't want to be in prison, since (and he has confirmed this to me), scum do indeed know each other's identities and could seemingly manipulate the system to get put in jail and gain abilities. When I pointed this out, the mod replied, essentially, that it is not that simple (ask him about this, I dare ya).
Oh, really? Here you say it is a good idea to send 2 scum.
Then what did you mean by these 2 previous statementis?
CarnCarn, in 33, wrote:
Also, assuming only one scum team, it's not a good idea to send two scum into Prison on any night.
CarnCarn, in 58, wrote:
Also, if you think both spring and I are scum, why are you sending both of us into prison? You do realize that two scum in prison can both just choose the daykill option and randomly kill townies the next day?
Twice before you have stated that sending 2 scum is NOT good and now you are claiming you have mod confirmed info stating that sending 2 scum IS a good thing? Why would you try to mislead the town from sending 2 scum TWICE knowing,
from the mod no less
, that sending 2 scum would be detrimental to the scum? I can't see any protown reason to EVER lead the town astray from mod confirmed protwn information.
You did point 1 thing out to me though...
CarnCarn wrote:
CarnCarn, with all your GF talk, it sure seems you are convinced there is a GF in the game. Perhaps you have some inside information that needs to be shared with the town?
lol, I'm not even the one who brought it up.
That made me want to look back and find out who did, and keep and eye on them.
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Here are my observations from that...
icemanE, 49 wrote, wrote:Maybe you can point it out for me, godfather?
So it was Ice that brought it up. Is he rolefishing, scum or both? Could he be covering for someone else? Let's see what transpires here.
icemanE, 51, wrote:I meant you going to jail and getting investigated would turn up an innocent on you if you're godfather.
This quote successfully distracted me and lead me to believe for the better part of the game that prisoners investigated each other while in prison, which is not the case at all.
icemanE, in 88, wrote:I agree with sending anyone but Spring, though.
icemanE, 151 wrote, wrote:Spring shouldn't be sent
specifically because
it was his idea.
I do think Spring's plan is/was scummy. Are you covering for your scum buddy Spring? That would explain your trying to keep her out of jail for so much of the game.
icemanE, in 175, wrote:I think we should send Spring now
icemanE, 51, wrote:I meant you going to jail and getting investigated would turn up an innocent on you if you're godfather.
Your sudden change of heart seems a little suspicious. Distancing now, or just confident of Spring's ability to deflect investigations as you inferred in 51?
icemanE, during day 2 in 164, wrote:@ OP - forgot to ask, did you still get daycop power or not?
Worried? It seems you have good reason to be.
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send: CarnCarn (scummy, holding out mod confirmed protown info and purposely leading the town in a direction opposite of that information)
send: SpringLullaby (serve some time for your distraction crime)
I wish I had another vote, as Ice seems to be a little too closely related to Spring. In fact, I would have sent Ice if I didn't feel that Carn's withholding protown mod confirmed information is such a serious offense.
