Newbie 796 - Game Over

startransmission · Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:45 am

This is how it's done folks, even when you're discovered and backed into a corner you keep fighting. I tip my hat to you Orange, I admire your spirit. It's too bad your partner had no spirit, or wit.

I'm not going to change my vote, but if we have time before you're hammered I'd like to address some your points.

orange wrote:Llama seemed to be onto Spongey.

No, not really. He did mention it seemed to him like one mafia admonishing the other, which imo it didn't. I assume this is why you killed llama, to set him up as the martyr who realized what was going on and was killed for it.

orange wrote:ah admits Spongey is his partner.

Oh, well if ah said it it must be true. Like I said earlier, your partner had no wits about him, and this frame job was ridiculous. This works against you instead of for you.

orange wrote:Spongey attempts to play it off as a joke.

No, he didn't. He just mentioned how absurd a frame up it was, and how he hoped others wouldn't be duped. It's difficult to make a joke out of something that was a joke to begin with.

orange wrote:Ah AND Spongey voted eachother early on Day 2. There strategy seemed to be to bus eachother, hoping the other would look good. I did buy it, because I thought junk was scum too, which is why I was voting them, since unlike ah, I was suspicious of him Day 1.

Well, Spongey voted ah right off the bat, and I don't buy that there was any strategy between them. ah reacted to the vote, and when I voted ah myself all of a sudden you jump off the junkaholik train and get on the ah train. When that happens ah hammers himself to end the day quickly, and makes some noise about spongey, probably to keep the heat off of you.

Good game all in all, you had me convinced you were innocent until late yesterday.

junkaholik · Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:45 am

actually, if cop didn't claim after star claimed, it can only mean that there is no other claim. besides, if star isn't dead and tomorrow there will still be no claim, what are the odds that he is lying??

spongey_spork · Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:48 am

[quote="OP]"But if star is lying, then why wouldn't anyone counterclaim. WHYYYYYY? If the real cop is out there hiding, then you're absolutely stupid for not coming forward.[/quote]
I'm supposed to counter claim!!!

I hadn't investigated Star or OP yet (star because he seemed the most pro-town to me and OP cause I was more suspicious of others then) I investigated Ah night 1. Out of the other's left, i believed OP to be scum because of the way he has acted. I thought Star was trying to be clever and get a win for the town. Jesus! I'm so effing stupid. I am so sorry, OP. That's why it took so long for me to hammer, I didnt know if I could trust Star's judgement, if this turns out badly, it's all my fault guys but we may still win if we get Star tomorrow.

orangepenguin · Post Post #353 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:48 am

"Hm...well, you say you're not going to an...ans......"

The town begins to wrap the rope around the poor orange artic bird's neck. Obviously, he wasn't mafia, just an exotic animal, somehow stuck in this town full of mafia, townies, cops, and doctors.

"Please...help....me..." the penguin squawked.

"PLEASE..SOMEBODY HELP ME!"

Then spongey, the lead suspect as scum, pulled the hammer, and the trap door opened up, instantly breaking the penguin's small, but delicate neck.

"AZGFJAFMALFLALABAH!" the penguin lurched, taking his last breath.

spongey_spork · Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:49 am

Oh sugar. Didn't notice your post til I posted, OP.

orangepenguin · Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:51 am

orangepenguin,

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 3.

(spongey, your claim is ridiculous. If you were cop, I doubt it would be coincidentally star and me - if it was, you would know star was scum, since she was lying about being cop. Spongey is scum, star is telling the truth)

I want star to answer my question - WHO he all investigated and which nights.

orangepenguin · Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:52 am

[quote="orangepenguin"]

orangepenguin,

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 3.

orangepenguin · Post Post #357 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:52 am

orangepenguin wrote:
orangepenguin,
Vanilla Townie
, Lynched Day 3.

startransmission · Post Post #358 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:52 am

orangepenguin wrote:Star - please explain WHO you investigated and WHEN. If she is alive tomorrow, and doesn't answer this, someone please pressure vote her. There was no Night 0, so for her to investigate 3 people, like she claims, would make her a liar. She argues that her pressuring ah early on makes her claim more believable, but it doesn't. If she is scum, then it would make just as much sense. Cop and doc fake claims are easy for mafia to do, as long as they aren't counter claimed.

There IS a cop though, so if star is lying, please come forward tomorrow. You have a lot of explaining to do, because WTF.

Ok, night one I investigated Kitoari, result was innocent. Night 2 I investigated junkaholik, result was innocent. I never said I investigated ah2190, I knew he was guilty from the start. That was just intuition.

Also, if I'm wrong about OP I can guarantee you I'll live through the night. If I live spongey has somebody to point to. Problem is, we know there is a cop, and I'm claiming it. Anybody care to call me a liar and say they are the cop?

junkaholik · Post Post #359 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:53 am

i just don't get how the whole voting on the second day started. it seemed pretty ridiculous to me. someone care to explain?? cause the evidence was highly unreliable and ah's self hammer was even more bizarre.

i also don't get why OP would say he'd be willing to lynch ah right off the bat.

then again, OP is the IC here, he was pretty inactive the first day and was quite active starting from the second one. and the killings seem to be in his advantage mostly.

spongey_spork · Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:53 am

It's not rediculous. I can provide evidence of why i investigated those people at that time. How was I supposed to know it isnt normal for somebody not a cop to claim cop, this is my first game!

orangepenguin · Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:56 am

startransmission wrote:
orangepenguin wrote:Star - please explain WHO you investigated and WHEN. If she is alive tomorrow, and doesn't answer this, someone please pressure vote her. There was no Night 0, so for her to investigate 3 people, like she claims, would make her a liar. She argues that her pressuring ah early on makes her claim more believable, but it doesn't. If she is scum, then it would make just as much sense. Cop and doc fake claims are easy for mafia to do, as long as they aren't counter claimed.

There IS a cop though, so if star is lying, please come forward tomorrow. You have a lot of explaining to do, because WTF.
Ok, night one I investigated Kitoari, result was innocent. Night 2 I investigated junkaholik, result was innocent. I never said I investigated ah2190, I knew he was guilty from the start. That was just intuition.

Also, if I'm wrong about OP I can guarantee you I'll live through the night. If I live spongey has somebody to point to. Problem is, we know there is a cop, and I'm claiming it. Anybody care to call me a liar and say they are the cop?

I believe you now, again. The three investigations just didn't add up, but it makes since. I would've investigated junk night 2 too, since I thought he was scum.

Kill SPONGEY

. Star is telling the truth.

junkaholik · Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:56 am

also, OP, you got hammered. why do you now try to make people change their vote even though you yourself said once a hammer is done nobody can do anything about it??

orangepenguin · Post Post #363 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:57 am

spongey_spork wrote:[quote="OP]"But if star is lying, then why wouldn't anyone counterclaim. WHYYYYYY? If the real cop is out there hiding, then you're absolutely stupid for not coming forward.

I'm supposed to counter claim!!!

I hadn't investigated Star or OP yet (star because he seemed the most pro-town to me and OP cause I was more suspicious of others then) I investigated Ah night 1. Out of the other's left, i believed OP to be scum because of the way he has acted. I thought Star was trying to be clever and get a win for the town. Jesus! I'm so effing stupid. I am so sorry, OP. That's why it took so long for me to hammer, I didnt know if I could trust Star's judgement, if this turns out badly, it's all my fault guys but we may still win if we get Star tomorrow.[/quote][/quote]

You investigated ah, junk, and Kito in the first two nights? LOL. Sorry, but you can only lynch 1 per night.

Kitoari · Post Post #364 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:58 am

He said it himself - he wants to talk before he's hung, even though it's inevitable.

startransmission · Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:58 am

spongey_spork wrote:It's not rediculous. I can provide evidence of why i investigated those people at that time. How was I supposed to know it isnt normal for somebody not a cop to claim cop, this is my first game!

Oh shit, sorry Orange. And sorry Exalt, guess I don't owe you a beer.

Ok spongey, well done. I really didn't even consider you potential scum until only a few posts ago. I guess we'll have to go through another day.

orangepenguin · Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:58 am

junkaholik wrote:also, OP, you got hammered. why do you now try to make people change their vote even though you yourself said once a hammer is done nobody can do anything about it??

I am talking about tomorrow. I am not trying to get people to change there minds, but since tomorrow is lylo, and the choice for the lynch is obvious (spongey).

Kitoari · Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:00 am

It annoys me that we'll have to wait 72 more agonizing hours *sigh*.
Mafia, Cop, make your moves quickly so the night won't last long.

orangepenguin · Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:00 am

spongey_spork wrote:It's not rediculous. I can provide evidence of why i investigated those people at that time. How was I supposed to know it isnt normal for somebody not a cop to claim cop, this is my first game!

The first/second post in the game shows all the available set ups - including 1 cop. None of the scenarios have two. If you were cop, you would've counterclaimed. But you are not the cop, you are the mafia goon.

spongey_spork · Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:00 am

startransmission wrote:
orangepenguin wrote:Star - please explain WHO you investigated and WHEN. If she is alive tomorrow, and doesn't answer this, someone please pressure vote her. There was no Night 0, so for her to investigate 3 people, like she claims, would make her a liar. She argues that her pressuring ah early on makes her claim more believable, but it doesn't. If she is scum, then it would make just as much sense. Cop and doc fake claims are easy for mafia to do, as long as they aren't counter claimed.

There IS a cop though, so if star is lying, please come forward tomorrow. You have a lot of explaining to do, because WTF.
Ok, night one I investigated Kitoari, result was innocent. Night 2 I investigated junkaholik, result was innocent. I never said I investigated ah2190, I knew he was guilty from the start. That was just intuition.

Also, if I'm wrong about OP I can guarantee you I'll live through the night. If I live spongey has somebody to point to. Problem is, we know there is a cop, and I'm claiming it. Anybody care to call me a liar and say they are the cop?

Yes. Me.
I investigated Ah on night 1 and the result said "Guilty". This was why I voted for him during the second day and kept my vote there. I was hardly going to say "I know he's scum" was I? That would out me and I'd be killed night 2. I investigated Kitori Night 2 based on a feeling that he may be scum, the result came back "Innocent" hence why I haven't attacked him at all today.
I honestly believed you were scum OP which was why I let Star claim, as the most pro-town player I had no reason to suspect him. I thought it was something that he may have done in another game or something that worked, which i admit i should have checked out. I will be investigating Starry tonight. If I die tonight, please lynch Star tomorrow.

orangepenguin · Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:01 am

Mafia - They will kill star, unless Spongey seriously wants to try to pull off his fake cop claim. If he kills star, that would just confirm he is scum though, proving that star is the cop.
Cop - Star will investigate the only person he hasn't - spongey.

Kitoari · Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:02 am

Tomorrow is going to play out as such:(Both star and spongey are suspect here)
Mafia kills me or junkaholic, giving mafia someone to point fingers at (star/spongey).
Junkaholic/Me decides who's telling the truth.
50/50 chance of town winning.

orangepenguin · Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:02 am

spongey_spork wrote:
startransmission wrote:
orangepenguin wrote:Star - please explain WHO you investigated and WHEN. If she is alive tomorrow, and doesn't answer this, someone please pressure vote her. There was no Night 0, so for her to investigate 3 people, like she claims, would make her a liar. She argues that her pressuring ah early on makes her claim more believable, but it doesn't. If she is scum, then it would make just as much sense. Cop and doc fake claims are easy for mafia to do, as long as they aren't counter claimed.

There IS a cop though, so if star is lying, please come forward tomorrow. You have a lot of explaining to do, because WTF.
Ok, night one I investigated Kitoari, result was innocent. Night 2 I investigated junkaholik, result was innocent. I never said I investigated ah2190, I knew he was guilty from the start. That was just intuition.

Also, if I'm wrong about OP I can guarantee you I'll live through the night. If I live spongey has somebody to point to. Problem is, we know there is a cop, and I'm claiming it. Anybody care to call me a liar and say they are the cop?
Yes. Me.
I investigated Ah on night 1 and the result said "Guilty". This was why I voted for him during the second day and kept my vote there. I was hardly going to say "I know he's scum" was I? That would out me and I'd be killed night 2. I investigated Kitori Night 2 based on a feeling that he may be scum, the result came back "Innocent" hence why I haven't attacked him at all today.
I honestly believed you were scum OP which was why I let Star claim, as the most pro-town player I had no reason to suspect him. I thought it was something that he may have done in another game or something that worked, which i admit i should have checked out. I will be investigating Starry tonight. If I die tonight, please lynch Star tomorrow.

But you said you investigated everyone except me and star. What happened to junk?

Okay, I am done. I don't have much to say, except - lynch spongey.

Kitoari · Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:03 am

And with that, I make my leave. Back in an hour or so to see if this circus is still going on.

orangepenguin · Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:04 am

Kitoari wrote:Tomorrow is going to play out as such:(Both star and spongey are suspect here)
Mafia kills me or junkaholic, giving mafia someone to point fingers at (star/spongey).
Junkaholic/Me decides who's telling the truth.
50/50 chance of town winning.

Kito - spongey's claim is so fake. There is no reason to believe it. He didn't counter-claim, he lied about investigated everyone except me and star (Which doesn't add up), and then he voted me in favor of someone who claimed cop - if he was truly the cop, he would've counterclaimed and voted star.

Town has a 100% chance of winning. Just lynch spongey.