Mini 461 "24" Game Over. Roll Credits

[Guardian]

CTD's list makes a lot of sense for Yos (or me, theoretically) to use if elected.

I'll provide a "LoT" (list of trust), purely based on gut feeling:

knows what he's doing, and is probably town

:
UltimaAvalon
CrashTextDummie
Guardian

doesn't know what he's doing, but is probably town

:
Albert B. Rampage
Korran
YogurtBandit

in the middle/undecided

:
Spambot
Eyceking
Yosarian2 (but doesn't matter for this, really)
Xdaamno
ChannelDelibird

don't trust

:
Off the Mark

Explanations later/if requested.

First group = deputy, FBI, CounterIntel Agent
Second group = crypto, cryto, and more crypto SIA possibly, too SIA seems like it very well could be a waste of a role, as a lot of useless transmissions will be sent to the mod...
Third group = White house, NSA, Bodyguard?
Fourth group = Bodyguards.

OTM I don't trust because I think he was pushing for me for director so he could be crypto. I did not plan on revealing this until I/Yos was elected, but now it's pretty much there, and that is how I feel. Re-read with that lens.

Yos, my final suggestion on setup (10 non-director)

1 CIA
1 SIA
2 Crypto
1 FBI
2 Field Agent
1 Whitehouse
1 NSA
1 your discretion...

Whee...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Where do you place yourself

[Albert B. Rampage]

Okay here we go:

knows what he's doing, and is probably town:
Albert B. Rampage
Off the Mark

doesn't know what he's doing, but is probably town:
UltimaAvalon
Guardian
Yosarian2

in the middle/undecided:
Spambot
Eyceking
Xdaamno
ChannelDelibird

don't trust:
Korran
YogurtBandit

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's right you bastards, I know exactly what I'm doing!

[CrashTextDummie]

knows what he's doing, and is probably town

:
CrashTextDummie

When did that happen?

Albert:

You forgot me. Clear proof that you don't know what you're doing.

[Korran]

al doesn't trust me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

knows what he's doing, and is probably town

:
CrashTextDummie

When did that happen?

Albert:

You forgot me. Clear proof that you don't know what you're doing.

Oh, crap

[Albert B. Rampage]

al doesn't trust me?

If there were a "probably scum but doesn't know what the hell he's doing, that's where I'd have you"

[Korran]

hmph

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Final Votecount

7 Yosarian( CDB, Spambot, Xdaamno, Yosarian, EyceKing, UltimaAvalon, CTD)
5 Guardian(Guardian, Korran, YogurtBandit, Albert B. Rampage, OffTheMark)
1 UltimaAvalon(UltimaAvalon)

Hour 0 has ended.

Data Uplink to Department of Homeland Security has been completed and data is being transfered now.

Director Yosarian please submit your role assignments for the rest of your team.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

CDB has been replaced by Frozen Atlantic by request.

Hour 1 has begun

Remember to check the 2nd post for the intelligence update.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Aren't the positions publicly revealed ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

My bad, read too fast.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I trust Off the Mark most, can I have him protect me ?

[Guardian]

Off the Mark Field Agent

Good call imo, for reasons outlined hour 0

CrashTextDummie Counterintelligence Agent

Eh, great call if he is town. Great call if he is scum with you too. I think he is town. I hope. His posts have had really good ideas and stuff.

FrozenAtlantic(replacing ChannelDelibird) Signals Intelligence Analyst

Eh? Not great, not bad

Albert B. Rampage Crypto

perfect position for him. Town, but doesn't really know what's what imo

Guardian Deputy Director

Eh, it was expected. Hopefully you are town, Yos, and not just benching me to bench me.

Spambot Crypto

Disagree here, he is not that sure to be town

Yosarian2 Director

Meh, if he's town, then awesome.

YogurtBandit Field Agent

I disagree here, I find him likely town and good as crypto. I usually find him town, though.

Xdaamno FBI Liason

Eh, he's town? o.O

Eyceking White House Liason

Good enough.

Korran Field Agent

Almost certain he is town. Waste.

UltimaAvalon Signal Intelligence Analyst

SA's are gonna pick up a lot of noise. Also, rather have UA in FBI. UA is most townlie, SA is kind of a waste imo

Thoughts: Yos could be trying his best and have different reads from me, he could be scum putting the noob town in useless roles.

I would encourage both cop roles (either should actually do it, but I encourage both) to investigate Yos.

OTM, do you have anything to say in response to my accusation? It looked to me like you were pushing for my election so you could be crypto.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think the setup Yos chose is pretty perfect, except for Xdaamno as FBI liaison.

[Guardian]

Why do you trust OTM the most of all the players?

[UltimaAvalon]

Holy Crap...is it just me or is the 3rd post brand new?

Re-reading the SIA role, it seems SIA doesn't only choose from one of the 12 players, but from the 10 Suspected Terrorist factions as well. This means right now me and FA have 22 targets and we must choose 1 to monitor.

[Spambot]

I think that monitoring the players is a better option, because I'm not entirely sure how monitoring a faction would help us or what information we would get from it.

I think the assignment is pretty good, although I'm kind of surprised you made me a crpyto. I think that investigating Yos and Guardian is probably a good idea, as being able to have full confidence in them should make things a lot easier.

[YogurtBandit]

Hmm, Field Agent. So, Who shall I protect?

[Spambot]

Hmm, Field Agent. So, Who shall I protect?

You know, that's actually kind of tricky. Normally I'd say that bodyguards/docs should keep their target to themselves, but that would require a pretty big vote of confidence in this game. However, directing you just means that you will never save an actual kill. I guess having an important role immune to kills (probably Yos if he gets confirmed or CTD) is better than not being able to hold you accountable.

[Guardian]

if/once yos gets confirmed, he can tell you in private who to protect. while his alignment is unknown... :S

[Off the Mark]

OTM, do you have anything to say in response to my accusation? It looked to me like you were pushing for my election so you could be crypto.

I can see how you would think that, but even if that WERE the reason I wanted you to be elected (so I could be crypto), you could hardly blame me, since CTD and Yos had me in the bodyguard (or maybe White House) role. I know I am trustworthy, so I think it is a waste to put me in bodyguard, so of course I would pick your setup as the best with regards to my role.

BUT that isn't even the reason I was pushing for you as director. I didn't like how Yos has Xdaamno in the investigator role, that's all it was. As I believe I explained before.

Anyway, my thoughts on announcing who bodyguards should protect: if we say who we are protecting, then scum is guaranteed to kill somebody unprotected. We could each list 2 people we want to protect and then scum would avoid trying to hit either of those people because of the 50% failure rate, since one of them would be actually protected. However, I realize this would give us (if we were scum agents) the ability to say "Oops, I guess I was unlucky there" even though we really weren't protecting ANYBODY. But I think if this happened, the field agent is very likely scum because the terrorists decided to go after his targets despite the 50% failure rate. Does this make sense?

Of course, the terrorists could also purposely go after one of the 50% protected targets because they know if they succeed, the town will lynch the bodyguard, so it's a tossup.

On the plus side, we can put a lot more people under the "protected" umbrella.

[Off the Mark]

if/once yos gets confirmed, he can tell you in private who to protect. while his alignment is unknown... :S

This is a good idea, but if Yos is scum this will quickly go horribly wrong. He will lie to everyone else about his orders to us. But I guess that would expose him pretty quickly... hmmmm.

[Yosarian2]

(shrug) Well, if people don't trust me yet to discuss bodyguard targets in private, we could just assign one to the FBI agent, one to the CIA agent, and let Korran (who is the most pro-town looking of the 3 bodyguards, IMHO) pick one of the 2 cryptos on his own. Not perfect protection, butshould be pretty safe for the moment.

The set-up for roles I sent in is the exact same one I said I would do yesterday; I know there were some people conserned about Xdammo, but like I said, I liked the way he was scumhunting yesterday; both made him look pro-town to me and made me think he'd be a good cop. Hopefully I'm not wrong about this one.

Anyway, time is very limited here, hour 1 is only 3 days long. We need to both very quickly figure out all the stratigic stuff, and simultaiously start thinking about who we want to lynch. We don't necessarally need to lynch someone during hour 1, but the sooner the better.