Mafia 69: noXkill - Game over!

[Dead Rikimaru]

Free Popcorn!

Another day is almost over in our beloved city, Nox Hill.
A bunch of avatarless people discuss which is the best flavor of popcorn, "waiting for Thorn" or "waiting for Cephir":

thinktank

: I like waiting for Thorn, but I prefer waiting for Cephir.

ZONEACE

: I like them both.

Flyinghawk

: I agree with zoneFace.

Kanaga

: Right now, I think we should taste a little waiting for Thorn, and then have a bit of waiting for Cephir. Then we can decide if we choose one of them or move on to a new flavor.

Their conversation is interrupted by the arrival of the popcorn man, who came to deliver the town's daily fix of popcorn.
All players gather around him desperate for their fair share of popcorn.

Sonicpulsar

: mmm, I love waiting for Thorn!

Kison

: I enjoy waiting for Cephir very much.

Tarhalindur

: Waiting for Thorn blows my mind!

curiouskarmadog

: Just thinking of waiting for Cephir makes me salivate.

killerbob

: I can't stand waiting for Thorn, but waiting for Cephir is wonderful!

Twomz

: Waiting for Thorn is a little bitter, but very nutritive.

Blight

: Waiting for Cephir gives me tummy ache. That's why waiting for Thorn is my only option.

WhoMe?

: Waiting for Cephir brings me childhood memories!

ChocolateAttack

: I'm in doubt if I should change my name "Waiting for Thorn Attack" or "Waiting for Cephir attack"

davidangelsummers

: And to think we don't have those flavors in Norway...

All players seem happy, and that makes the popcorn man feel accomplished. But he notices not all players are eating.
In a corner, a little boy looks silently at his popcorn.

popcorn man

: Anything wrong, kid?

dybeck

: Mister, I've just been thinking: Can we have popcorn forever?

popcorn man

: Not forever, son. One time the day has to end.
The town took three weeks only waiting for this and waiting for that, and participating less and less. If you can’t decide in, like, two more weeks I’m afraid a decision will have to be taken for you.

Those last few words made the rest f the players silent as well.
The popcorn man put on his hat and goes away to deliver his popcorn no one knows where.

MOD NOTICE:

Deadline has been extended to 14 days.
Unless activity improves A LOT and there is REAL discussion going on by that date there won't be any more extensions on Day 2. So consider this deadline as final.

[Dead Rikimaru]

In northern Europe, there are also tales about people changing into animals including bears, as well as wolves.

FOURTEENTH VOTECOUNT

Thorn

(5) - Kison , WhoMe? , davidangelsummers , Kanaga , Blight

Cephrir

(3) - dybeck , curiouskarmadog , killerbob

dybeck

(1) - Cephrir

Twomz

(1) - Thorn

Not voting

(7): Sonicpulsar , Tarhalindur , thinktank , ZONEACE , Flyinghawk , Twomz , ChocolateAttack

Needed for a lynch: 9 votes

Final deadline: 14 days

If by deadline no one has 9 votes player with more votes is lynched
If two players have same number of votes lynch is decided by duel

[ZONEACE]

ZONEACE

: I like them both.

I FEEL COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTED AND DEMAND AN INQUIRY...lol, jk

but seriously, i love free popcorn, and the new deadline, and the random things you add throughout the game Dead.

[WhoMe?]

Toffee or plain?

[Twomz]

Twomz: Waiting for Thorn is a little bitter, but very nutritive.

WTF? Nutritive?

[Sonicpulsar]

Why does it seem like the primary targets of wagons tend to either be people who post way, way too much or people who don't post much at all?

Supposedly we'll hear from Cephrir today (happy scum day by the way). I look forward to it.

[Cephrir]

I still don't have time to do a PBPA like I was planning to, and I don't think I will anytime soon. So here's the gist of it.

He rarely explains himself and calls out other for being unhelpful, while he himself is not particularly helpful, and is not actively scumhunting. He's constantly insisting that I am scum though he has yet to give a reason other than "I think everyone not voting Karen can see why". He really didn't give much of a reason for his suspicions of ZONEACE either:

It was very clear to

some people

yesterday that the bandwagon on Karen was based on spiderwebs and fairydust and that our best option was to carry on discussion until we had some more information.

To pretend otherwise is more than idiocy, it's a blatant lie.

Quite a jump there from "it was very clear to some people" to "it's a blatant lie to believe otherwise". Also, it's just plain wrong. There were plenty of reasons to vote Karen, and I'm pretty sure nearly everyone in the game has accepted that it had to happen eventually. But whatever. More importantly, be attacks Zoneace almost entirely based on the fact that they don't agree. I suspect that he may also suspect me because I disagree with him on that point, but he hasn't posted a reason so anything I say to that point is entirely conjecture.

He insisted (and continues to insist) that the Karen wagon was baseless, which as I have already said in my argument with CKD, is not true.

Of course the ironic thing is that she might well BE scum! But my belief is that there's absolutely nothing to suggest either way.

Right, but she was a bad player and therefore useless blah blah we've all heard this a million times. Yet even after admitting this, he continues to rave about the baselessness of the wagon to make others look scummy, even into Day 2. It doesn't make any sense.

Also, as everyone probably should have noticed (although I don't believe I've seen it posted), dybeck and CKD agree on pretty much everything. So, just an advance warning: If one turns up scum I will be gunning for the other extremely hard the next day.

There you go. Bad logic, lack of explanation for his suspicions (and therefore baseless accusations), inability to accept the fact that Karen could never be relied on and had to be lynched eventually. I posted this almost entirely stream-of-consciousness, so forgive me if some parts of it don't make any sense.

[curiouskarmadog]

speaking of bad logic.

and you agreed with zoneface day 1, what do you draw from that..same logic?

so if Daybeck turns up scum, I am guilty beause I didnt want to lynch the easiest person to lynch day 1(my choice had nothing to do with dybeck)?..ahhh, now thats sound logic..what happens if dybeck "turns up" town, same logic, I must be town right?

What a mastermind you are to catch two scum agreeing with each other so openly....you been playing this game for a year huh?

Excuse me while I pull up my socks here, BS is getting pretty deep.

Not only did Cephirr strongly push for a townie lynch yesterday..he is pushing crap logic today..

anyone else see this?

[Cephrir]

and you agreed with zoneface day 1, what do you draw from that..same logic?

I don't really get what you're saying here.

so if Daybeck turns up scum, I am guilty beause I didnt want to lynch the easiest person to lynch day 1(my choice had nothing to do with dybeck)?..ahhh, now thats sound logic..

what happens if dybeck "turns up" town, same logic, I must be town right?

Oh, come on. You don't have to try so hard to misinterpret my words, do you? You two agree on EVERYTHING. And putting your opinion yesterday in such a blatantly biased light is really not helping my opinion of you either. If he's town, you aren't necessarily town, no. Scumbuddies are linked together by agreement. Townies don't know each others' alignments so it doesn't apply. What I'm saying is that there is a link between the two of you, which is only a tell after one of the linked people is scum. And you know perfectly well that the part I bolded up there makes absolutely no sense. You have no right to tell me everything I'm saying is BS after making a ridiculous comment like that one.

What a mastermind you are to catch two scum agreeing with each other so openly....you been playing this game for a year huh?

I haven't caught anyone. If one of you turns up scum at some point, I will be very suspicious of the other. You're blowing my words way out of proportion. Just because you disagree with me, and you like to pretend I'm saying things that I'm not, doesn't make me a bad player as you seem to think, it just makes you illogical.

If there's any craplogic here it's definitely yours.

[Cephrir]

and you agreed with zoneface day 1, what do you draw from that..same logic?

EBWODP: Actually, I do get this now. Yes, actually, I'd say I would look quite suspicious if Zoneace died at any point and was scum, but at the moment I take no issue with that whatsoever since I'm confident that won't happen.

[Twomz]

Scumbuddies are linked together by agreement.

I disagree... this would be a classic case of "all the eggs in one basket." It is more likely that they just see things in the same light and have similar thought processes/experiences.


I do not agree that just because dybeck was against the Karen lynch he is scummy. He may have blown things out of proportion at times, but just because someone disagrees with you does not make them scum.

That being said, I think you might be grasping for straws trying to attack dybeck. It is like you OMGUSed and now you are trying to pull a case out of midair to back it up. Although I did not quite get everyone else's case against you earlier, I do see now why they would find you suspicious.

BTW, Happy B-day

vote: Cephrir

However, I am still waiting on a response from Thorn... and am hoping for more input, especially from the group at the tail end of the Green Day/Thorn wagon.

[dybeck]

I'd like to see everyone show some colors and cast a vote. Especially the non-voters that are also scum.

[ChocolateAttack]

Thorn play is quite odd. She replaced in for GreenDay but then quickly asking for a replacement. I don't know if she have a motive behind that or not.

[thinktank]

Cephrir does not seem any less suspicious because I don't agree with all parts of your argument. Especially the part about how because Dybeck and CKD could be linked because of agreement. If anything it would be the opposite. really bad scum move to be on the same side .. That being said your argument raises an interesting point about Dybeck and his constant recurrence of the baseless wagon on karen. Thorns statements are also quite weird and make a "huh" reaction go off.

FoS: Cephrir
FoS: Dybeck
Fos: Thorn

current candidates are possibly those three for my vote. bot ready to vote yet, but most likely within these 3.

[Cephrir]

Cephrir does not seem any less suspicious because I don't agree with all parts of your argument. Especially the part about how because Dybeck and CKD could be linked because of agreement. If anything it would be the opposite. really bad scum move to be on the same side .. That being said your argument raises an interesting point about Dybeck and his constant recurrence of the baseless wagon on karen. Thorns statements are also quite weird and make a "huh" reaction go off.

FoS: Cephrir
FoS: Dybeck
Fos: Thorn

current candidates are possibly those three for my vote. bot ready to vote yet, but most likely within these 3.

Way to FoS all the people under suspicion. Commit to a vote please.

[dybeck]

Seconded.

[Twomz]

Also, he is taking both sides of two people who are attacking each other, and FOSing the guy that just replaced someone and has not even posted really yet (still waiting Thorn ).

[curiouskarmadog]

Seconded.

3rded..

oohhh, Ceph, I agreed with him again...

[thinktank]

I will make a positive stance once thorn speaks.

[Kanaga]

It isn't clear Thorn will speak soon. I'm not too suspicious of Cehprir anymore. I wish we could get a Thorn replacement but as Dead Rikimaru said that would be unfair to the person who replaced him.

[Tarhalindur]

Thorn either needs to be lynched or replaced (he was replaced in a Newbie game recently).

Either one is acceptable - Green Day was one of the two scummiest players I've had the chance to reread (DAS is the other).

[Tarhalindur]

In the interests of getting this game moving again, I'm going to go ahead and

Vote: Thorn

.

[Twomz]

Activity is appreciated.... /sigh.

[ChocolateAttack]

Thorn has 6 votes and Cephir has 4, to balance out the pressure, i will play my vote on Cephir.

I have feeling this gonna be a bad day 2. [/b]

[dybeck]

Chocolate... Whilst I applaud your decision, I'm uncomfortable with your reasons.