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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:44 pm

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this shows the voting patterns
of people so far .
i'm aware that doesn't always
mean anything, but it's nice to have for reference .

LynchHimNotMe

vote ZEEnon

zindionne

vote ZEEnon

image

vote Xtoxm
vote DIonized
vote Sironigous

ZEEnon

vote LynchHimNotMe
vote zindionne
vote Sironigous

DIonized

vote image

IronTurkey

vote LynchHimNotMe

Sironigous

vote IronTurkey
vote image

Porkens

vote image
vote ZEEnon

Xtoxm

vote image
vote ZEEnon

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i'm pretty sure on of the people
on my bandwagon are scum,
since i'm almost lynched anyways .

just one question, can people
that replace into games even be mafia ?
why would the moderator suggest to start
the game regardless of the three people
being replaced, if perhaps the scum
wasn't in the game yet ?
just me thinking out loud ..
ZEEnon wrote:anyways, bandwagon is a very
scumish thing to do .. just to let you know .
i think you should be more careful .
FoS: Xtoxm
Porkens wrote:It seems to me that if you suspect that Xtomx is trying to push the wagon forward because he's scum; you'd vote for him. If you think he's town making a bad move; you wouldn't FOS him.
you're are implying
that you would rather see me put
a random vote on someone then
for me to use an FoS on someone that
i have a reason to do so .
Porkens wrote:By saying the vote is random, you're asking us to take your word on the claim that you would have voted for whomever was last on the list.
this accusation came fairly early in the game
for something very minor .
it was his FIRST vote, and i think
he said random because it was technically
still the 'random voting stage' .
LynchHimNotMe wrote:first of all, what you said sounded to me like you are trying to sound pro-town
i merely stated a fact .
LynchHimNotMe wrote:In addition, you started getting really antsy after Xtoxm's vote which to me is clearly not a serious vote. Yet you became all tense and FoSed him.
when i FoS people, it's because i
want to let them know i'm watching them .
i don't use IGMEOY or other fancy
terms like that . i like to keep it simple .
who are YOU to say that i became tense ?
do you watch me through my window or something ?
i merely stated that it was a thing mafia would do,
and i had NO reason to suspect anyone
else even a little bit .
would you rather i have not posted anything ?
because besides suspecting Xtoxm,
i had nothing else to go on .
Sironigous wrote:Sweet! Explanation time... By the way, hey guys.
here he mentions 'explanation time' .
i guess '...' signified his explanation .
i brought this up again because it bothers me
that he didn't even explain YET .
Porkens wrote:...wow.


I'll post more later whehn
it bothers me a lot when
people don't do what they say .
if a townsperson has a point
to say, they would POST it .
not completely forget about it .
zindionne wrote:not muched has changed, I really hate day ones
quite a lot has happened actually .
unless you are referring to your activity.
Porkens wrote:
  • His initial FoS seems strange to me, but that could be because I've played here a while and in the
    R
    andom
    V
    ote
    S
    tage it's just more common to see a vote.
this IS a newbie game afterall ..
of course you are going to
see things you haven't seen before.
(such as my typing)
ZEEnon wrote: Sironigous, that vote for image
without ANY clear explanation
is EXTREMELY suspicious .
it appears as a bandwagon vote,
and it is also the FOURTH one .
one more, and image will easily
be lynched, and for all we know thus far,
he is an innocent townie .
Unvote.
Vote: Sironigous
after careful inspection,
i agree, this DOES make me seem
like i'm protecting image (the player) .
however, (this may make it seem like
i'm trying to seem like i'm pro-town,
but i'm saying it regardless... )
i don't want to just watch while
a player gets lynched RIGHT at the
BEGINNING of the game (basically) .

by the way,
just because someone
tries to seem pro-town
doesn't necessarily mean they are
scum . if you are scum, you want
to seem innocent . but if you are innocent,
DON'T YOU WANT TO SEEM INNOCENT ?
so what is the problem when someone says something
like "well SORRY for sounding pro-town..."
or "my goal is to find scum." ?
Porkens wrote:I'd honestly like to see him at L-1
.. i bet you would .
image wrote:LynchHim seems to think you are scummy but not enough to warrant lynching
ironic, he placed his vote on me.
i guess when you place your vote on
a player, it means you don't
think they are suspicious enough to be lynched .
i'll keep that in mind for future reference .

since there are no 'bah' posts,
i'd like to say ..
go for one of the people voting for me !
it has to be one of them. :P
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:49 pm

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LynchHimNotMe wrote:
ZEEnon wrote: anyways, bandwagon is a very
scumish thing to do .. just to let you know .
i think you should be more careful .
FoS: Xtoxm
this somehow doesn't sound right to me...and you FoSing Xtoxm comes off as a defense of image

FoS: ZEEnon
ANOTHER weird double standard .
everyone blows up and goes psycho when
i start off MY posts with an FoS,
but when LynchHimNotMe uses FoS first,
nobody says ANYTHING .
in my opinion, the whole towns seems to be working against me. :P
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:39 pm

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ZEEnon wrote:
LynchHimNotMe wrote:
ZEEnon wrote:in my opinion, the whole
towns
seems to be working against me. :P
you summed it up very nicely there...


ZEE, list your scumlist for us, would you? who do you think is most likely scum?
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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:45 pm

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ZEEnon wrote: just one question, can people
that replace into games even be mafia ?
why would the moderator suggest to start
the game regardless of the three people
being replaced, if perhaps the scum
wasn't in the game yet ?
just me thinking out loud ..
Yes, mafia can be replaced. And the game can start before the mafia starts participating.

the rest of your response to the case against you has me himming and hawing.

Why did you not respond to this:
Porkesn wrote: In post 38 he says "I find no use of it (FoS) either, but i'm just stating a majority opinion. This is in direct contradiction to his actions earleir.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:48 pm

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unvote
for the time being.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:53 pm

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Porkens wrote:Why did you not respond to this:
Porkens wrote:In post 38 he says "I find no use of it (FoS) either, but i'm just stating a majority opinion. This is in direct contradiction to his actions earleir.
THANK YOU for reminding me !
i knew i forgot something!
i said i find no use of it,
not that i DON'T use it .
i use it now since the majority
of players understand it,
and a lot feel more pressured than
if i asked a series of well thought-out questions,
which seems weird to me .
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:54 pm

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Argh, the wall of text...
ZEEnon wrote:i guess when you place your vote on
a player, it means you don't
think they are suspicious enough to be lynched .
The point isn't that he placed his vote on you, it is that he removed it three minutes later since you were at L - 1.
ZEEnon wrote:just one question, can people
that replace into games even be mafia ?
why would the moderator suggest to start
the game regardless of the three people
being replaced, if perhaps the scum
wasn't in the game yet ?
just me thinking out loud ..
Oh, and look at that! You just happened to have been one of the people who replaced into this game. Awfully convenient, isn't it? Obviously scum can replace into games, or else we'd have three confirmed townies at this point. The way in which you mentioned this seems scummy to me.

I'll live my vote on zin for the moment, though, as he still seems rather tight-lipped.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:55 pm

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Huh, that's really bizarre :p

I'm going to take a bit before I decide to re-vote for ZEEnon or present a case on my next suspect.

Hey the rest of you
feel free to chime in
!
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:57 pm

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EBWOP: I'll
leave
my vote on zin for the moment...
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:04 pm

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image wrote:Argh, the wall of text...
ZEEnon wrote:i guess when you place your vote on
a player, it means you don't
think they are suspicious enough to be lynched .
The point isn't that he placed his vote on you, it is that he removed it three minutes later since you were at L - 1.
oh sorry! i didn't remember that post
when i was making the summary!
image wrote:
ZEEnon wrote:just one question, can people
that replace into games even be mafia ?
why would the moderator suggest to start
the game regardless of the three people
being replaced, if perhaps the scum
wasn't in the game yet ?
just me thinking out loud ..
Oh, and look at that! You just happened to have been one of the people who replaced into this game. Awfully convenient, isn't it? Obviously scum can replace into games, or else we'd have three confirmed townies at this point. The way in which you mentioned this seems scummy to me.

I'll live my vote on zin for the moment, though, as he still seems rather tight-lipped.
ughh whatever anything i say gets transformed,
i think i should stop posting so much,
it makes me a prime target .. for EVERYONE .
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:08 pm

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LynchHimNotMe wrote:
ZEEnon wrote:in my opinion, the whole
towns
seems to be working against me. :P
you summed it up very nicely there...
LOL LynchHimNotMe ! :oops:
sorry, let me rephrase .
all the players seem to be working against me.

@ Porkens, thanks for answering my question .
LynchHimNotMe wrote:[ZEE, list your scumlist for us, would you? who do you think is most likely scum?
(sorry for taking so long,
everytime i started to write this, somebody posted again)
zindionne: lurker, enough said. not participating enough.
Sironigous: seems scummy to me, as he STILL hasn't explained himself .

besides those two, i have no time to ask probing questions
since you all are doing a good job of keeping
me occupied answering your questions ..
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:55 pm

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PORKENS: can you talk more please? I want to hear all of your IC knowledge and your take on this game...

ZEE: fair enough...
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:17 pm

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PORKENS: can you talk more please? I want to hear all of your IC knowledge and your take on this game...
hehe, flattery or sarcasm?


Anyways; there are a few others that should get to posting soon or get on a certain short-list of mine.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:02 am

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i guess '...' signified his explanation .
... it does? I just type using a lot of those...

Why can you have a typing style (yes, you do have one) and I can't?
i brought this up again because it bothers me
that he didn't even explain YET .
Wait... what didn't I explain yet that you want me to explain?
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:00 am

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unvote: ZEEnon


he's came pretty close, and actually it was just a random post to show people I'm still here, I haven't had much time to play, as Ive been quite busy. this whole upcoming weekend I'll be busy, but I will be able to send a decent serious post either Monday or Tuesday of next week.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:46 pm

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FoS: zindionne


unvoting when it seems like everyone else is doing so, then proceeding to call a random vote to show activity, meaning you were basically lurking, is very suspicious in my book...
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:06 pm

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ZEE:
ANOTHER weird double standard .
everyone blows up and goes psycho when
i start off MY posts with an FoS,
but when LynchHimNotMe uses FoS first,
nobody says ANYTHING .
in my opinion, the whole towns seems to be working against me. :P
Incorrect. I voted him.


Porkens:
I'd honestly like to see him at L-1 and ask for a claim from him.
unvote
for the time being.
Um only slightly incongruous. Not to mention you previously said the following:
And, after defending his decision to keep his vote on LHNM by saying "I don't suspect anyone else" and how he is SO dedicated to scum-hunting, as soon as an "I hate Pikachu" vote comes along; he unvotes!
xtomx:
I also like xtomx's three posts.
Vote Image


Yay bandwagon.
I find Zee suspicious. Don't like his post style either, it's hard to read, which is anti-town.

Sir, what were you thinking when you said "that's what I think"?
unvote vote ZEE
Really? That's oh give-or-take two bandwagon votes in three posts and one post that bandwagons ideas and suspicions.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:25 am

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Fourth Vote Count of Day 1:

Sironigous 1 (ZEEnon)
ZEEnon 1 (Xtoxm)
LynchHimNotMe 1 (IronTurkey)
zindionne 1 (image)

IronTurkey 0
Porkens 0
Xtoxm 0
image 0
Moriarty147 0

Not Voting 5 (LynchHimNotMe, Sironigous, Moriarty147, Porkens, zindionne)

5 to lynch. Currently searching for a DIonized replacement. Edit: Moriarty147 replaces DIonized.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:39 am

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I'm replacing DIonized. Sorry for the delay, the past 2 days were made of midterms and assignments and I wanted to get that done before posting here. That being said...hmm.

Slightly distressed about the early wagon on image. A page 2 wagon that lead up to L-1 for reasons that were pretty much terrible and based on "gotcha"-style wording is not a very good thing to have. Definetly some scum on that somewhere.

ZEEnon: You find your typing aesthetically pleasing to your eyes, while the rest of us find it annoying as all hell. Please type normally, mafia is a game primarily about communication, and if we find your posts too annoying to read, you may find yourself lynched, especially with all the evidence against you so far (I largely agree with Porkens's case on you, you've done a lot that needs explaining)

Sironigous: your explanation of voting image up to L-1 was surprisingly poor, as has been noted by multiple people so far and you don't seem to be actively doing anything towards scumhunting either.

However, I'm most distressed atm by the lurker pair of zindionne and Xtoxm. Especially the latter, as he's supposed to be one of the ICs and therefore should be helpful, instead of not contributing anything for the most part, except for some posts which could easily be construed as very scummy.

@mod: Prod zindionne and Xtoxm?

They've both posted in the last two days; I don't find that necessary.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:46 pm

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Ok; maybe this will get some conversation going in a new direction;

@Iron Turkey:
Iron Turkey wrote:
Porkens wrote:I'd honestly like to see him at L-1 and ask for a claim from him.
Porkens wrote:unvote for the time being.
Um only slightly incongruous. Not to mention you previously said the following:
Porkens wrote: And, after defending his decision to keep his vote on LHNM by saying "I don't suspect anyone else" and how he is SO dedicated to scum-hunting, as soon as an "I hate Pikachu" vote comes along; he unvotes!
Are you asking a question here or just trying to hint at some vague accusation?
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:19 pm

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Sironigous wrote:
i guess '...' signified his explanation .
... it does? I just type using a lot of those...

Why can you have a typing style (yes, you do have one) and I can't?
some people don't understand sarcasm.
Sironigous wrote:Wait... what didn't I explain yet that you want me to explain?
This:
Moriarty147 wrote:Sironigous: your explanation of voting image up to L-1 was surprisingly poor, as has been noted by multiple people so far and you don't seem to be actively doing anything towards scumhunting either.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:13 am

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ZEEnon wrote:
Sironigous wrote:
i guess '...' signified his explanation .
... it does? I just type using a lot of those...

Why can you have a typing style (yes, you do have one) and I can't?
some people don't understand sarcasm.
Sironigous wrote:Wait... what didn't I explain yet that you want me to explain?
So, that was sarcasm?... Eh, didn't seem like it in context. Oh well.

This:
Moriarty147 wrote:Sironigous: your explanation of voting image up to L-1 was surprisingly poor, as has been noted by multiple people so far and you don't seem to be actively doing anything towards scumhunting either.
You see, when I voted, I had an idea, which doesn't make sense anymore. So, right now, I'm utterly confused in why I first voted him to L-1 in the first place.

I probably failed to realize innocent before guilty...
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:14 am

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EDWOP

er, the text under my quote is mine, not his.

oops.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:44 am

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Well, zin says he'll be busy this weekend so hopefully we'll see some content coming from him soon.
Unvote
.

However, Xtoxm seems to be lurking as well; he has said very little of actual content. Therefore,
Vote: Xtoxm
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:26 am

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I still support a Zee lynch.
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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