But remember when I was urging people not to vote for Neto because of how he acted after Beefster claimed scum? It was shaky reasoning and you called me on it- truth is, I knew at that point he was townie because of my investigation and was trying to steer people away from him.
Is there any way for you all to kill me to see that I'm town and secure the win that way?
Lynch me to see my role. Doc is still alive, so protect either himself, Neto or Guide.
Then lynch boberz or Robo?
"The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast." Oscar Wilde
Mafia will HAVE to target Neto or Guide. Because, just for the sake of the example, not saying he's mafia, let's say it's Boberz. If he kills Robo then we'll KNOW it was Boberz. So either Neto or Guide will be targeted by Mafia. This gives doc 1/2 chance of saving the townie. Even if the doc protects the wrong one, that will leave us with 2 town and 1 mafia.
So it'll be a fifty/fifty shot of winning for town if the doc protects the wrong person.
But if the doc protects the right person then it's basically an instant-town win.
So we have a 75% chance (or whatever) of winning if you lynch me to see that I'm telling the truth. I say you go for it if you think I'm lying. I'm just excited about getting a win on my first game.
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Lol he did another post afterwards cementing his scumminess!!!!
I cannot stress how bad a play this is. To know or speak as if you know the setup. I am going to find the case that was never answered on Melon and see what was in it.
But remember what I said after I'm lynched. The doc needs to protect either Neto or Guide. If you choose wrong we've still got a fifty-fifty shot of winning, though.
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Hmm. This does complicate matters. Usually, saying that there is a doc in a newbie game isn't really a scumslip. It's more of an inexperience slip. The question then is this - do we trust ACM's cop claim? Unfortunately, we haven't seen a roleblocker yet, so we can't determine how safe the claim is. Still, until countered, I do like keeping claimed power roles alive. I need to think and review on this some more. I'm leaning towards a Boberz lynch right now, but I need more information first.
As a side note, this claim does clear both myself and guide. There are two possible options - either ACM is lying, in which case he's actually scum and neither of the two of us could be scum, or he's telling the truth, in which case we're both cleared as well.
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This is a pretty interesting development. I knew that Badger would probably be the nightkill tonight, since he built a great case on me. With him dead, I'd be the definite lynch for the day. If that had happened, I'd have been ready to self-hammer, because I knew that if I survived to lylo scum would probably win (I had no clue how to defend myself from Badger's very valid points, and had no ideas as to who the scum were; I'd be dead weight on D4, and a near certain lynch).
Then, Melon came along with his cop claim, clearing myself and Neto. I'm inclined to think that he's telling the truth, so I'd be ready to lynch Boberz; I consider him more likely scum than Robo, as his spats with Melon practicaly consumed the thread at points. I'd like to hear him defend himself before my vote, however.
Defend myself from what theguide, you didnt make a case!
My spats with Melon were because he refused to answer my points, he also had crap theory and when I tried to show him he got on his high horse about me abusing him pages before. He was as responsible if not more so than me.
He is lying scum. I am fairly certain he is lying because I do not consider knowing there is a doc a null tell. Melon has shown that he understands the game throughout there is no reason for him to make this newb slip now. Dont get me wrong he is a newb but this does not mean we can ignore an obvious slip.
He cooked up a claim which is why he delayed for more or less the whole time, he made the claim attempting to get robo and me attacking each other and ignoring him.
I cannot defend because there is nothing to defend.
Obv if he is cop I am turning straight on you, but I think you have been protown whereas melon has been scummy for the whole game. It is not me and I dont like people banding around this kill me and then you will know attitude (both melon and robo have said it).
If it was me why would I have defended theguide yesterday?
If it was me why would I have gone quite so hard on Beefster to a point of helping make him claim scum?
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Robo please dont be blinded by a quick claim that looks good on face value.
Melon has misrepped
Melon has forced others into making scumtells, rather than trying to help people avoid them.
Melon spent large amounts of time lurking in day 1.
Melon showed no signs of being a cop other than defending Neto badly, bear in mind as scum she would equally know he is town so there is no biggy there. Melon did not breadcrumb, yet he wants us to accept a claim he spent three days cooking up.
I would have done the same thing Boberz. The IC's are smarter and better at being scum(Supposedly) and Neto is
extremly
good and his Meta shows it. Knowing that Neto was town would have lightened a big WIFOM-y unbackable suspicion. And it has. I believe he is the cop. His story checks out.
@BOBERZ, IF YOU THINK THAT HE IS FAKE CLAIMING WHY DON"T YOU GIVE YOURSELF UP AND LET US LYNCH YOU TO PROVE IT? WE STILL HAVE ONE DAY AFTER THIS BECAUSE WE LYNCHED SCUM DAY ONE. SO WHATS YOUR PROBLEM? YOU SCARED OR ARE YOU SCUM?
Sorry, had to make sure Boberz saw it.
Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.
Then you would have done something silly. Neto was one of the most protown players in day 1 and only I seemed prepared to say this. He did fade away but that was easily seen as just drifting which towny players do more than scummy ones in my limited experience. When you suspected him it was pure speculation and absolute rubbish. Both me and badger told you so.
Why dont I give myself up. Because it is a bad thing to do. If I die you find out I am protown then you are stuck in the same situation between you and melon but in lylo!
It makes no sense for two different alledged towny players to be asking people to lynch you.
I chose Neto night one because people were suspicious of him. Same reason I chose Guide night two. But I am the cop. If we kill Boberz today, we'll get a win tomorrow killing Robo, it doesn't really matter what order we do it in.
"The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast." Oscar Wilde