Newbie 191 - Game Over

[MeMe]

What a nasty little town this has become. Mafia have arrived and are systematically gunning down the nice townfolk. What should decent, smart people do?

MOVE

, of course. What are YOU gonna do? Try to figure out who the bad guys are and lynch 'em during the daylight! I'm not kidding, folks. That's the plan. Deal with it.

Alive (2)

chaotic_diablo

Mafia

pablito

Mafia

Dead (5)

wouteronimus

Townie

- lynched Day 1
olio

Townie

- killed Night 1
Dirge (replaces Dranko20)

Doctor

- lynched Day 2
Adele

Townie

- killed in Endgame
Fiasco

Townie

- killed in Endgame

No current deadline.

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One of the following four set-ups is used for this game:

a) 2 mafia, 1 cop, 1 doc, 3 townies
b) 2 mafia, 1 cop, 4 townies
c) 2 mafia, 1 doc, 4 townies
d) 2 mafia, 5 townies

Note: in view of the number of players, we will start in the day phase, although most larger games start with a night. The mafia will be allowed to communicate pre-game, though no role will submit choices until Day 1 is over.

Possible roles:

You are the mafia

. You may only talk with each other during the game's "night," not during the "day." You let me know before the night's deadline who will be your victim. You win the game when all the other players are dead.

You are the cop

. Every "night" before the deadline you send me a message with a name of your choice, and I will let you know whether that player is mafia or not. You are not allowed to communicate with any of the other players outside the thread. You win the game when the mafia are dead.

You are the doctor

. Every "night" before the deadline you send me a message with a name of your choice, and that player cannot die if attacked by the mafia that night. You cannot heal yourself. You are not allowed to communicate with any of the other players outside the thread. You win the game when the mafia are dead.

You are a townie

. You are not allowed to communicate with any of the other players outside the thread. You win the game when the mafia are dead.

[MeMe]

The Rules

:

• Votes must be in
  bold
  . If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted.
  
• Please be attentive and
  unvote
  , if necessary, before casting a new vote. This is not
  required
  , but I’d appreciate it.
  
• Executions will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, his pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded. You may
  vote: no lynch
  – majority votes of this kind are necessary to end the day without a death.
  
• The game is not to be discussed outside of the thread unless your role specifically states that you may do so.
  
• Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. Stop typing.
  
• Don’t edit/delete previously submitted posts
  
• Don’t quote any PMs from me.
  
• If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. I will not wait for you – if you do not submit a choice to me, tough! No choice will be made.
  
• If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread.
  Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.
  
• Remember, it’s a game. It’s supposed to played. It’s supposed to be
  fun
  . Do your part.

[MeMe]

All confirmations are in -- game on!

With seven alive, it takes four votes to lynch.

[Fiasco]

Hi everyone.

Vote: chaotic_diablo

, because I'm trying to trick him into jumping onto his own bandwagon.

[Fiasco]

*stands in the middle of the game thread in deep spiritual awe of the overwhelming, perfect silence*

*ruins the moment by making a small bumping noise*

Guys, at this rate we'll never catch up with Newbie-192.

[chaotic_diablo]

vote chaotic_diablo

I'm not familiar with the newbie set, just to let you know.

[Fiasco]

Hah, he fell for it.

random confirm vote: chaotic_diablo

; clearly we have found our first scum.

[chaotic_diablo]

You knew I would vote myself so you set it up. I'm not about to let one little thing ruin my record. Shame on you Fiasco.

[pablito]

Hello all,

Vote: Adele

because this vote is random.

[olio]

Greetings!

vote: wouteronimus

. What a random vote inspiring name!

[Adele]

Vote: Olio

Whaddaya mean, C_D? You don't have a perfect record. I've seen you not self-vote because you already had a vote on you. Liar

[Fiasco]

A liar too? Maybe he's both our first AND our second scum.

[Adele]

Nah, Chaotic_Diablo always acts silly, so you can't draw anything from it. That's what makes it so annoying.

[Fiasco]

I don't think self-voting is any sillier than random-voting in general. It accomplishes the same things: it gives you something to do in your first post, and it gives everyone something to talk about.

[Adele]

Hmm... but Chaotic does this so much, and the reaction's getting to be:
"WTF?"
"Oh, ignore him, he always does that."
"Why?"
"He's like that "
"Oh ok. I'll just ignore him until he does something real then"

You know, it doesn't generate much discussion because you don't get the reaction of the person voted for; nervousness, OMGUS, whatever. That's the third and most important (to my mind) function of early random and near-random votes.

[Fiasco]

True. On the other hand, you do get the reactions of six players to a self-vote.

(We've caught up with Newbie-192!)

[chaotic_diablo]

Vote: Olio

Whaddaya mean, C_D? You don't have a perfect record. I've seen you not self-vote because you already had a vote on you. Liar

Bah! There's a critic everywhere these days.

I just vote myself because I refuse to random vote. Like Fiasco, I agree that random voting accomplishes nothing. It's true that voting someone is to draw a reaction, but it's not that helpful when the random votes are all scattered in different directions. Why should someone act nervous when there's a whole bunch of other votes on everyone else and there's nothing scummy about him/herself?

There's my reason to self vote. Selfvoting may accomplish nothing as well, but I enjoy doing it. Besides, I don't expect people to know I'm doing this and let me get away with it, so I'll happily explain my logic again and again and again and again...

[Fiasco]

Next time you should try citing the Handicap Principle. ("I'm so obviously pro-town, I can afford to have an extra vote on me.") Who knows, the others might even be foolish enough to believe you.

[wouteronimus]

random

vote: Dranko20

for not being here.

[Adele]

Like Fiasco, I agree that random voting accomplishes nothing.

Please stop lying.

It accomplishes

the same things: it gives you something to do in your first post, and it gives everyone something to talk about.

it's not that helpful when the random votes are all scattered in different directions. Why should someone act nervous when there's a whole bunch of other votes on everyone else and there's nothing scummy about him/herself?

They probably won't. They sometimes do, though, and if they don't, no harm done. You can move on to the other tactics in your arsenal. It's a darn sight better than nothing.

[Fiasco]

You have other tactics that work in the absence of scum tells?

I can't recall seeing anyone get nervous about a random vote, except maybe first-time players. Anyway, it's really important that we don't produce an ironclad proof that they're a good or bad thing; with some bad luck that would mean future towns never get any conversations started again, and the game of mafia as we know it will be destroyed! ruined!

Since he's been sighted posting elsewhere on the site, I'll put some more pressure on Dranko20:

unvote chaotic_diablo, vote Dranko20

but I wouldn't advocate more pressure than that in the near future. He probably hasn't even noticed we've started.

[Adele]

You have other tactics that work in the absence of scum tells?

I'm referring to tactics for drawing out scum tells. If there are no scum tells, do something that a scum might react to differently than a townie: random votes, bandwagons, DWA, push for a claim, whatever.

[chaotic_diablo]

They probably won't. They sometimes do, though, and if they don't, no harm done. You can move on to the other tactics in your arsenal. It's a darn sight better than nothing.

Humbug! You win. I just have a different opinion than yours.

[Fiasco]

I'm referring to tactics for drawing out scum tells.

That's what I meant too... not implying that such tactics don't exist, just curious.

random votes, bandwagons, DWA, push for a claim, whatever.

I guess bandwagoning people up to claim would work, but it has a large price. What's DWA?

[Adele]

Deliberately Weak Argument