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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:05 pm

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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:21 pm

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Sorry about that. hit the post button while I was stuill composing. I started to say something about dranko, but realized that i was thinking about someone else.

still, I find it hard to beleive dranko's also a vig, and that "attitude" comment before without explaining what he ment and after I apologized for what he might have misunderstood as attidude left a bad impression on me, felt liek he was just parroting leodonis for no real reason.

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N1: Qualman - Miss Fuldu - Stabbed & Shot (?)
N2: DP - Shot DMI - stabbed
N3: Electra - Stabbed Electra - stabbed

I beleive following this pattern, it looks like all of my targets were all stabbed (plus any addiontal attacks). But electra seems out of place in dranko's colomn. I beleive that Dranko is lying, he's taking credit for the electra kill to look like a vig. but I think the pattern shows that he targeted leodonis, the cop instead.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:10 pm

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helloooooo? Anyone there? It ahs been 2 days wihtout posting! Please post soon! I want to know what you think of the evidence against dranko.

Mod could you prod everybody else perhasp they all are suffering from amnesia. :)
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:30 pm

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Amnesia!? There's only one cure for that:

Deadline: Thursday, March 24 at 11:59pm PST (US)


It will take two votes to lynch at the deadline.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:42 am

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For some reason, I missed the new posts :oops:

Foolster, it doesn't make you less a vig, but I wanted the reasoning behind the tageting of DMI once you knew that your action killed someone on night 1. Although we don't know how Fuldu died on night 1. And laying out the kills that way certainly shows the inconsistency in Dranko's claim. If Dranko indeed targeted DP, wouldn't he have been shot and stabbed?

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MGIA and Uraj, do you actually get a response from the mod on your night actions or not? If not, I guess it's hard to tell what Uraj's targeting of MGIA accomplished.

Foolster, please don't target anyone tonight, as we honestly can't afford to lose anyone. (If it comes down to a night that is).
MGIA wrote:The best plan I can think of (and I'm not saying it's good) is to lynch either Foolster or Dranko, have Uraj and Me target the other and Jaguar target either Uraj or myself. If there's no kill, the one of the two we didn't lynch must be scum, if there is a kill... it'll probably be Jaguar dying, then it's anyone's guess.
There's one flaw in this one. If there is no kill, that means either you or Uraj is scum, as Foolster (assuming we lynch Dranko) has nobody targeting him and can take out anyone he likes. Of course, he could chose not to kill and then we'll have one more investigation to work with.

I'm not sure if this is the best plan, but all I ask is that neither Uraj nor MGIA target me tonight so I can at least attempt to get a result. Of course, this also leaves me without protection if one of you two is the back-up doc.

Uraj, you claim to have targeted DP on night one. He voted for me day one, not randomly and I assumed when I saw his post that he had investigated me and found me guilty (the result of his paranoid cop ability). This would mean that you don't block, but MGIA perhaps does. Perhaps the better option is to have Uraj target me, MGIA target Foolster and I'll investigate one of you three randomly.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:37 am

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Actually, "the other" in my previous post was refering to the other between Foolster and Dranko (the one that's not lynched)
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:31 am

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Yes, but how do you know it's between them? There's still the possibility it's you or Uraj.

For that matter, what if nobody dies? It could be that you blocked Uraj or that Foolster decided not to kill, or something along those lines to confuse the heck out of us.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:08 pm

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Whoo. . .getting rather confusing now.
i don't get an results for my abilities. i'm having an issue with this line:
Uraj, you claim to have targeted DP on night one. He voted for me day one, not randomly and I assumed when I saw his post that he had investigated me and found me guilty (the result of his paranoid cop ability).
My understanding of the role is that when he targeted someone, if anybody else targeted that person, they would get a guilty result. Am I not reading it right?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:39 pm

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No, DP would be able to investigate but only get guilty results. That's what my investigation of him told me. So when I saw DP's vote on me, I assumed he had investigated me and received a guilty result. In my eyes, that makes him a paranoid cop. With Elektra, my result clearly stated that she was mafia and ablet o kill someone at night.

So since DP appears to have received a result, I am thinking that you, Uraj, do not block a person, but rather have a different ability. I hope that makes more sense...
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:14 pm

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Jag: Wasn't planning on targeting anyone tonight anyways.

We're doing better here on post frequencey but is there anything left to do since dranko's already claimed what looks like a bogus claim? It seems Dranko's alreayd dead at this point and any hesitation is only holding back the game. Of course if you have anything important to say, you should say it now before night falls.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:23 am

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Well, I don't think we'll get a better claim. So who wants to do the honours on the kill shot?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:07 pm

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I guess I'll do it.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:34 pm

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3 Dranko20 (Foolster41, Jaguar, Uraj45)


After revealing the results of their aimless wandering at night, the town still remains baffled by their amnesia. However, they finally decide upon Dranko20. After stringing him up, take him to the coroner for further investigation. It turns out that Dranko20 was a nosy
eavesdropper
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:46 pm

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The air is still as day dawns on the shores of Letheville. Everyone in the town knows that this day could possibly be their last. The remaining townspeople step outside to see Jaguar laying dead in the street. She had been shot.

A quick trip to the coroner's reveals that Jaguar was a role cop able to determine the jobs of her targets at night.

Jaguar, role cop, killed night 4


It is now DAY 4.

With 3 alive, it will take 2 votes to lynch.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:28 am

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Bah :cry: Kill that scum!
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:16 am

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But who's the scum? That's the question.

Last night I targeted Foolster. So, if I'm a roleblocker, Uraj is scum. But obviously it's not just going to be so open and shut. Uraj will obviously have some sort of claim that contradicts mine.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:25 pm

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Hi, I'm waiting on what Uraj has to say.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:39 pm

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I targeted Foolster as well. . . Sorry about the time, limited acess and all. I would really like to compile a choice summary, but I can't do that now either.
I think, perhaps, the best thing to do is for everyone to make their case as to why they believe their role is what they think it is.
I think I should come back with mine after a review a bit more. Give me a bit of time and I'll do that.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:52 am

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In that case, from where I'm sitting, there are three possibilities...

1) There aren't really any roleblockers and Foolster is scum

2) Uraj is lying and he's scum

3) Uraj is lying and he and Foolster are both scum (one a third mafia, and one an SK)

I think we can rule out option 3 as that would have put the mafia at WAY too much of an advantage from the start. And the fact that Jaguar didn't recieve a result two nights ago kinda rules out option 1.

I honestly belive Uraj is just piggybacking on my claims to try and look innocent.

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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:50 pm

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Allright: confession. I am an SK. Bewarned though, that this means foolster is the last mafia.
I have no chance of winning, none. no matter what the circumstances. You have sparsely little chance of winning: we get a no lynch and go into night. you don't block anyone and we kill each other.
So, why don't we settle on a draw? It's better than everyone losing. You help me lynch Foolster, and we'll be at a stalemate. You can't kill me without majority and I can't kill you as long as you block me.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:51 pm

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Vote Foolster
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:56 pm

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1 - Uraj45 (Mr_Gnome_It_All)
1 - Foolster41 (Uraj45)

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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:22 am

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Unvote Uraj


What makes you think there's three Mafia?
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:33 pm

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Why does this mean I'm maf? A SK still living with 2 townies would still cause the game to not end. I know for a fact that I am a vig, but even so I find it VERY hard to beleive that there are 3 Maf+SK in a game. You said your self, you are a SK and so you should die either way.

I simply don't see how there's anything more to say. To me the only risk is SOMEHOW gnome is scum and in that case no matter if we lynch either at this point the town looses.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:53 pm

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Just look at the records! A doctor, a roleblocker, and
three
cops. And throw on top of that the vig that Foolster claims to be. That's quite of bit a power on the side of a town that is facing the about average amount of 3 scum, but turned against each other. It doesen't make sense.
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