Micro 576 - Word Sneak Mafia 2: Even Sneakier! (Game Over)

[Aristophanes]

I mean it ends with that makes a heck of a lot more sense but I don't really feel like anything was obtained from the line of questioning, and at the beginning it definitely felt like he was trying to scumhunt me but that sort of petered out and just went into questions with no purpose behinds the answers.

-Halo

The questions petered out because I realized it wasn't alignment indicative and dropped it.
You haven't done much else today yet so how else am I to sort you?

How about some reads from you guys?

[Aristophanes]

so gut

Was there any point to this comment?

No offences meant, but TheCow was fairly useless the last game I played with him..
Don't remember the role he held but I remember it being mentioned as frustrating but not indicative either.

I'd like to see more though.
How about a town and a scum read from you, Cow.

[Aristophanes]

A bit of gut, but 46 feels like directing the Cop in an indirect manner, which feels scummy. Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.

I can dig this for now.

[Postie]

I can dig this for now.

Why?

[Aristophanes]

I can dig this for now.

Why?

I didn't like the light cop directing myself and I feel like this is a good start for a preliminary read.

If they start making bad reads, this will change. I won't know until they progress further with their reads as the game goes on though.

[Postie]

What about the cop directing didn't you like though?

[Aristophanes]

What about the cop directing didn't you like though?

I dislike it on principle as it let's Scum in on too much.

I mean, I once again get it with the recent kickass scum play, but that doesn't mean we should announce that you are the cop's first check.

I'm going tangential, sorry.
Basically, it's bad form.

[Postie]

So do you just disagree with it, or do you actually think it's scummy? If it's scummy, why?

[Postie]

101 pings me but I'm not sure why; something about the general tone and last sentence, I think.

Wasn't feeling this wagon earlier; I'm liking it more now.

[Aristophanes]

101 pings me but I'm not sure why; something about the general tone and last sentence, I think.

Wasn't feeling this wagon earlier; I'm liking it more now.

Lol
I have really bad foot-in-mouth disease, especially on D1s.

I stand by the post though. It is true to what I recall and I would like reads from him.

[Aristophanes]

So do you just disagree with it, or do you actually think it's scummy? If it's scummy, why?

Normally, merely disagree but think little of it.
From Davsto, it gives me a twinge. I could see him doing so as scum, so I do give it more of a possible scum indication than normal in this case.

[Postie]

Why do you think it's more likely to cone from scum!Davsto than town!Davsto?

[Postie]

*come

[Aristophanes]

Why do you think it's more likely to come from scum!Davsto than town!Davsto?

Because townDavsto us usually pretty careful about such stuff, but ScumDavsto says a lot more damning things without thinking. His foot-in-mouth as scum is worse than mine is, and that's saying something.

[Postie]

What do you mean by "such stuff"? Saying things which sound scummy? But if that's the case, then you must also have a reason to think what he said sounded scummy that's different to what you've just told me.

[Davsto]

A bit of gut, but 46 feels like directing the Cop in an indirect manner, which feels scummy. Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.

I mean

That's literally exactly what I'm doing there

Could you explain why it's scummy? Because one of the Cop's other instincts when told what to do is to inspect the person that's telling them so they know they can be trusted, and thus ordering around the cop like that is a huge risk.

I honestly don't like the way this is worded though. He seems to be trying too hard not to say anything too absolute about said post despite me pretty clearly going "PLEASE INSPECT THIS PERSON THANKS"

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

vote go here now

[BNL]

A bit of gut, but 46 feels like directing the Cop in an indirect manner, which feels scummy. Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.

Could you explain why it's scummy?

Hidden agenda. That post is to tell the cop to cop Postie, but you didn't say that directly.

I honestly don't like the way this is worded though. He seems to be trying too hard not to say anything too absolute about said post despite me pretty clearly going "PLEASE INSPECT THIS PERSON THANKS"

I have no idea what you are talking about.

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

vote go here now

Considering that I have posted

Not a strong read at all, but I don't have a strong read on anyone else yet.

I have shown through this that its a weak scumread, and I'm only voting Davsto because he was the scummiest of everyone else (which are mostly null) at that point. The fact that he OMGUSed me feels like an overreaction to my post.
My vote remains on Dave.

[Davsto]

Hidden agenda. That post is to tell the cop to cop Postie, but you didn't say that directly.

Tell me in what way it's a "hidden" agenda? Like, I basically said "cop postie please"

[Davsto]

I have shown through this that its a weak scumread, and I'm only voting Davsto because he was the scummiest of everyone else (which are mostly null) at that point.

That's my problem with you - you seem reluctant to commit. You say that something that can objectively be read through my post with basic reading skills is a "gut feeling" and act like something which I may as well have been waving a flag about is a "hidden agenda".

The fact that he OMGUSed me feels like an overreaction to my post.

OMGUS is a bullshit buzzword used to discredit anyone who ever dares to vote someone who is voting them. OMGUS is "you voted me so i vote you", not "I have this really good and detailed reason to vote you, and you also happen to be voting me".

[BNL]

Like, I basically said "cop postie please"

No, you said "I'll be mad if the Cop doesn't check Postie"

I have shown through this that its a weak scumread, and I'm only voting Davsto because he was the scummiest of everyone else (which are mostly null) at that point.

That's my problem with you - you seem reluctant to commit. You say that something that can objectively be read through my post with basic reading skills is a "gut feeling" and act like something which I may as well have been waving a flag about is a "hidden agenda".

Why is reluctancy to commit a problem? That was my second post of the game, and first vote. I couldn't get a strong scum read, so I voted you as it was RVS. Am I expected to commit to a scumread at the start of the game? You attacking me with invalid reasons is scummy.

[Davsto]

No, you said "I'll be mad if the Cop doesn't check Postie"

tomayto tomato

Acting like it was a "hidden agenda" for me to want the cop to do that is pure lies - I basically said I wanted the Cop to check Postie.

[Halos and Horns]

I mean it ends with that makes a heck of a lot more sense but I don't really feel like anything was obtained from the line of questioning, and at the beginning it definitely felt like he was trying to scumhunt me but that sort of petered out and just went into questions with no purpose behinds the answers.

-Halo

The questions petered out because I realized it wasn't alignment indicative and dropped it.
You haven't done much else today yet so how else am I to sort you?

How about some reads from you guys?

I haven't talked about you and Postie yet so I'll do that first.

I started liking Postie with 63 and 71, I like how transparent that internal conflict is showing through and I feel like that vibes with a lot of my struggles in figuring out "is this something this person would do as town or scum?" I like how persistent she is in her questions, I feel like she is saying a lot of the things that I would. RC is the complete opposite in his read on her, and I get his paranoia to an extent, but for now I think she's probably town.

With you, I'm not really feeling any of that. I can't see any of your thought processes from your posts, and while I get that you realized RC pushing Postie isn't particularly telling of anything except his personal paranoia, the whole drop-off in engaging us felt... flat. You were just like, "okay bye, I'm done pushing you."

Not related but it's a bit unfair to ask us for our reads when you haven't really offered your own. Talk to me about your reads?

There's not much else to go on except for this recent BNL/Dav thing. I'm agreeing with most of what Dav says regarding his "hidden agenda," and I feel like BNL is just kind of nitpicking without really looking deeper.. But I also feel like Dav overreacted, and he said that his vote had a valid and detailed reason, which I don't totally agree with.

Also I didn't like this:

Also - and I'm probably going to be RVS voted for saying this - you have no idea how relieved I am to be town.

VOTE: postie

only interesting post so far, is this game real life?

It kind of feels like Cow was trying to bring the discussion back to page 1. There was definitely something to talk about by then, like commenting on our push on Postie. You've said he's pretty useless and I guess I'll give this some benefit of the doubt but I still don't like him.

-Horns

[TheCow]

i don't feel like playing right now, ill play later

[Aeronaut]

beep

[Aeronaut]

boop