Micro 648: Mystery Box Mafia - 't is gedaan!

[GuiltyLion]

I'm not saying he's definitely scum, he could just be cagey, but he's definitely giving the most scummy pings so far relative to the other posts, especially given a town!Flames

I've played with Not_Mafia a lot. I have experience with him myself. The idea that he'd react in a significant way to a lone RVS vote is a joke.

[House]

I mean, it IS three pages, lol...

[House]

Was*

[Sméagol]

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Flames682

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gigabyteTroubadour

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RyanK

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GuiltyLion

/ [url=lhttp://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=8397611#p8397611]

Maruchan

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Not_Mafia [

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NJAC

Abstaining [1]:

Not_Mafia

There are 9 active players.
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Flames682

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- Hashtag Doctor

Spoiler: Role PM

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(active): Prevent target player from dying.

Post requirement

(passive): From the beginning of the dayphase (or from the moment you receive this role), all posts must include a hashtag #imadoctor, in order for you to be able to use your active ability.

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There are 8 active players.

Spoiler: Current playerlist

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NJAC

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House

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[5] Flames682 † -

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- hashtag doctor - lynched

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Expedience

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Not_Mafia

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GuiltyLion

Spoiler: Days & nights

Day 1

Night 1

Deadline is

10-10-2016 00:00:00 CEST

((expired on 2016-10-10 00:00:00)).

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The role flipped is the role you have at time of death.

I'll update OP and links later.

[Sméagol]

I'll be home late at night, so the write up will be a few hours later. Which means the deadline will be a few hours later as well.

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First vote count

Spoiler: Current playerlist

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NJAC

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[5] Flames682 † -

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- hashtag doctor - lynched day 1

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RyanK

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Expedience

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Not_Mafia

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GuiltyLion

Spoiler: Days & nights

Day 1

Night 1

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Deadline is

22-10-2016 00:00:00 CEST

((expired on 2016-10-22 00:00:00)).

[Expedience]

I agree with GuiltyLion so far.

VOTE: NJAC

I think House is town because he's so eager.

Have you played with House before?

Yes

I'm voting RyanK because I played with him before and he was really weird.

Please elaborate how he was "really weird" when you played with him.

Posting superficial analysis about things that happened ages ago while everyone else was in the present, and changing votes erratically.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i haven't read the thread in a while and i'm kind of having a tough time irl so give me a moment here

pre-emptively calling a v/la but i haven't worked out a time

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Why Maruchan over Guilty or House? They were getting in as many thoughts in during twilight but they didn't have the scrutiny of a lolhammer around them. Weird NK.

Tempted to sheep NJAC but let's not lolhammer.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

*sheep onto

[Expedience]

I guess because Maruchan looked town? He didn't do anything else, but he was my strongest town read.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Scum claiming ascetic is usually a terrible idea whether they are really ascetic or not, so I'm inclined to townread Guilty for that alone.

I disagree.

Scum have nothing to lose by claiming ascetic. It's not like it paints a target on their head for investigative roles since... investigatives don't get results.

What makes you think it's so town when there's no downside to claiming it?

I think the utility of scum ascetics is the fact that an investigative can waste a night if they're targetted. Claiming takes a person's chance of being targetted away and therefore takes away the utility of a pretty good modifier.

What was it you thought we saw about Guilty earlier?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I guess because Maruchan looked town? He didn't do anything else, but he was my strongest town read.

I guess I agree to disagree. Maruchan was a townread of mine too but I think Guilty and House are townier.

Still, I lack experience and I'd assume lolhammering isn't exactly a towntell but that kill makes me think I'm wrong so *shrug*

[House]

What was it you thought we saw about Guilty earlier?

Where? It's been a couple days and I barely remember breakfast.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

What was it you thought we saw about Guilty earlier?

Where? It's been a couple days and I barely remember breakfast.

haha same tho

gigaByte I can see either way, the townread of me is a little too easy but the posting feels relatively genuine on first read

I was inclined to agree with your opinion of the easy townread until I thought something else.

If she's thinking what I'm thinking she's thinking, then i think her thought is town.

I think.

[House]

gigaByte I can see either way, the townread of me is a little too easy but the posting feels relatively genuine on first read

I was inclined to agree with your opinion of the easy townread until I thought something else.

If she's thinking what I'm thinking she's thinking, then i think her thought is town.

I think.

If you're referring to this, I was thinking that Ascetic is an awesome fake claim for PGO, in that it deters town PR's from wasting their ability while also fishing the NK because ascetic is often a modifier for powerful roles.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh no i wasn't thinking that

but that's actually pretty neat.

i do have ~reasons~ that i should really slap myself in the face for and stop that always make me townread D1 NU claims (especially ascetics). i also have never seen scum ascetics actually claim their role before as if it were a town NU and I really should go dig for counterevidence if i'm ever up to it. it just seems like incorrect play to do though

[House]

What is NU???

[gigabyteTroubadour]

negative utility

stuff like millers, ascetics, PGOs... stuff that can fuck towns up if not claimed properly

[House]

it just seems like incorrect play to do though

Don't get stuck on correct/incorrect play.

Town always assumed optimal play from scum, but scum has flexibility to deviate so there is value in doing so.

[House]

Assumes*

[House]

Exhibit A: would you claim mason as scum?

I did. And won because of it.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68502

[gigabyteTroubadour]

it just seems like incorrect play to do though

Don't get stuck on correct/incorrect play.

Town always assumed optimal play from scum, but scum has flexibility to deviate so there is value in doing so.

Valid point, but I really do think Guilty is town by play anyway, with or without the claim.

Any last minute questions before I try to log off for real? <= that's at anyone btw

[House]

Not from me, sleep tight!

[gigabyteTroubadour]

<3

looking foward to RyanK's posting tbh