Micro 888 - Vengeful 7P (Game Over!)

[eth0s]

Junk is town I think

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not sure how I totally misread the votes but ok

[NorwegianboyEE]

@JunkoChan
In post 91 you agree with Heaven's reads. But in post 93 you think Heaven and me are town vs town??

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm having a hard time getting into this game due to the super lack of discussion, and I'm pretty bad at starting some when the game is in a state like this so I won't really fight a lynch on me. Pretty sure I will hit scum with a vengeful shot anyway so lets do it baby

I'm having a hard time getting into this game due to the super lack of discussion, and I'm pretty bad at starting some when the game is in a state like this so I won't really fight a lynch on me. Pretty sure I will hit scum with a vengeful shot anyway so lets do it baby

Town would fight a lynch. This is scum giving up

yeah obviously there is so much evidence against me and so many thought provoking posts made this game, how will could I even fight back?!

if you're town this is really trashy and anti-town
lynching scum D1 makes the setup almost unwinnable for scum, even if you think that you're going to venge correctly you still owe your team to give the game your all to try to show them you're town.
i'm unsure of your alignment aorn but I don't want to end up losing this game because you couldn't be assed to defend yourself.

[RadiantCowbells]

keep in mind that if you're town, half of the players that aren't you are scum. when you play pro-scum you let scum play pro-scum and hide in the noise.
this game is essentially unwinnable for scum if you treat this game like any other game of mafia and scumhunt properly.

this goes @everyone

[RadiantCowbells]

it's borderline unforgivable that in a game size this small there's not a single one of you i can confidently pick out as never scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

actually heaven is town I think

i dunno like. i can see a universe where he's having a strong game as scum but like if there's 3 town and not one of you is actually trying i'm not sure how town was supposed to win

[RadiantCowbells]

maybe if i keep dropping references to the number of non-me townies everyone will townread me

[RadiantCowbells]

anyway none of this should matter anyway

[Blatant Scum]

Likely vs possible. If you 95% think sameone is town, make the assumption.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: norwegianee

so let's talk about this

Come on, you’re just grasping at straws here.

Your reads are shit. We’ve barely started the game and somehow you think you’ve figured it all out.

None of your reads are valid Heaven. Come back with something better next time.

Forming reads based on almost nothing is either scum or really bad townie play.

these are not things that town says to someone that they're scumreading. these are things that scum says to town to bully them off of the reads that they're following
i've seen these quotes with mildly different contexts over and over as scum retaliating to town votes
he does back off and pretend that he's "trying to sort" whether he's an idiot town or scum but even there he's browbeating heaven into rescinding some of the reads

those reads being

Norwegian, ethos, charles scum.

Easy game.

the thing is i actually kinda buy this readslist as having been 100% correct
charles and norwegian are the two worst slots in the game BY FAR and ethos has made a bunch of really shit AtE that could easily have been scum

going further into norwegian's associatives he attacks Heaven for his shit/invalid reads (implying Charles town), then backs off to neutral, saying there's not enough to form a read
then we get

I'm having a hard time getting into this game due to the super lack of discussion, and I'm pretty bad at starting some when the game is in a state like this so I won't really fight a lynch on me. Pretty sure I will hit scum with a vengeful shot anyway so lets do it baby

Town would fight a lynch. This is scum giving up

This is scum falling for the most obvious bait ever.

Vote early and often, that’s my policy

How are we supposed to put pressure on suspects if everyone switches their votes all the time? Or was that not what you meant?

calls Charles scum falling for the most obvious bait ever but then doesn't vote him
and then backs off to asking a random pointless question that doesn't actually mean anything

meanwhile from charles's side, he calls blatant scum blatant town for absolutely no given reason using a bunch of quotes that don't actually indicate that blatant scum is town in any way
calls ethos scum for absolutely no given reason

I'm an idiot, don't mind me. But, that does not imply that I am town or scum.

argues not that he's town but that there's no evidence to imply that he's town or scum

so these two are pretty transparently both scum individually as well as scum together. ethos is ehhhhh because Charles reactionary voted them for saying that he'd vote Charles/Norwegian
i dunno I'm hoping one of these two is godfather, if not I think it's at least plausible that ethos is in fact third scum but i do think for sure charles/norwegian is two

[RadiantCowbells]

voting norwegian because I'm feeling them as more likely GF aorn but assuming I was right and they flip non-gf scum I'm never unvoting charles

[RadiantCowbells]

Also I should be super clear about this as early as possible

scum are

100%

going to retaliate to this by pushing me as scum. there's no path to victory from letting me take over the game and systematically eliminate scum.
if you're town and have any uncertainty about my alignment you need to engage with me about this. don't low effort the game and let scum lead a lynch on me.

if you're scared of the prospect of sorting me, the way to do it is through testing the alignment of the people i lynch. not through lynching me day 1 and forfeiting what should be autowin.

[RadiantCowbells]

everyone respond to 110 in their next post pls.

[Blatant Scum]

RC how about we lynch charles first? What would you say on that?

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not picky on order as long as both die.

[RadiantCowbells]

i also think as a general policy it's more likely that a person with 0 votes is scum than a person with 2 votes
so i think this is the safer vote as well as more likely to actually end the game

but i wouldn't not hammer charles if I had the chance.

[RadiantCowbells]

you didn't give a read on either of them, notably.

[Blatant Scum]

you didn't give a read on either of them, notably.

I didn't give a read on NorwegianboyEE?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I haven't felt much reason to spend time on this particular game since there was a big lack of energy here. But now i might get back into the groove.
@RadiantCowbells
Are you also thinking Heaven's day 1 super low effort reads are somehow 100% accurate? I'm not saying there might not be scum in that list, but when you do blind shooting in a game with 3 out of 7 players being mafia, obviously there's a high chance he might have gotten at least one scum in there. But thinking he's got the whole scum team by raw guessing? That's ludicrous.

[Blatant Scum]

That's a brilliant idea. Norwegian, RC, start discussing with each other. That could help me determinate your alignments.

[RadiantCowbells]

You seem to care an awful lot about expressing just how terrible his RVS read is.

[RadiantCowbells]

Charles is posting elsewhere but not reacting here to my push on him.

[Charles510]

I'm busy posting elsewhere

[Heaven]

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