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[Skygazer]

VC 1.04

AnimatedWiz

(3): Generic, Dannflor, Charles510

Shrek

(2): BlackStar, bob3141

Gumiguy

(1): Shrek

bob3141

(1): Gumiguy

BlackStar

(1): Black

Hu Tao

(1): Andante

Not Voting

(4): brightbluebug, Hu Tao, AnimatedWiz, Afrayed Knott

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to scuttle a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-09-28 06:30:00).

mod notes: Ian's washing a flume

[Andante]

It's like you wanted to rush out of RVS the second it started and you're throwing shade at everyone who isn't trying to move as quickly as you

* I don't do rvs
* I'm just giving my thoughts on stuff as I read it, knowing full well I'm going to fall behind

like, I'm literally just trying my best here with what yall are giving me to work with, I'm off of work right now, thus I have the time to give this my all, thus I am here. not entirely sure the issue? If you wanna take charge/get people to start playing, be my guest!! but hey, I literally have to start somewhere to get reads, and as time moves on, my reads evolve

[Gumiguy]

Most of the arguments with Andante seem more like a clash of playstyle than a clash of win condition to me. Her aggression is unusual, yes, but aggression itself isn't scummy.

[bob3141]

bob feels town. I like his point re: Andante. Making associations this early kinda feels like they are trying to do too much? Like "hey I'm solving I'm so town"

I could see a Black and bob team tbh, bob is the only one Black has made a point to go "I think X is town BECAUSE of this reason" and then the 3rd is likely in shrek/gumi/afrayed or something like that

again with making associations so early, also i think you ignored me ewhen i question you on this point earlier


Its something scum often try in the early game and if town do it always back fires. As you use flimsy reasoning on one player and then use weaker reasoning to make association with second. That fails if the first player in chain is town. And any reason this early is always going to be weak, so making associations like that rather than going after indv play is rather bad

[bob3141]

ok, no more ChatGPT posts, I promise to be me.

brightbluebug, please set up an avatar picture ASAP. That is one of my pet peeves.

I only know one thing, Generic is town. I will sheep wherever he goes. For that reason I am placing my vote on
VOTE: AnimatedWiz

very bad vote

So your saying you arnt trying to solve the game as thats what it looks like. Out side of conf town voting there dont you want to atleast sort that player. As what makes you think gen is even right.

it's hard to explain, but this post feels like scum taking advantage of a bad post from town, gives me flashbacks to me as scum where I'll jump on a bad town post like this...

not saying I TR Charles at all, but that's legit what bob's post here is reminding me of.

See this requires me to push a read one way or another on that players. Rather than neutral post telling them to actualy try and solve teh game. If there town it makes them easier to read and makes it easier for them to vote right.

Be honest what you have done heere just looks like your trying to pocket charles by white knighting them

[BlackStar]

It's like you wanted to rush out of RVS the second it started and you're throwing shade at everyone who isn't trying to move as quickly as you

* I don't do rvs
* I'm just giving my thoughts on stuff as I read it, knowing full well I'm going to fall behind

like, I'm literally just trying my best here with what yall are giving me to work with, I'm off of work right now, thus I have the time to give this my all, thus I am here. not entirely sure the issue? If you wanna take charge/get people to start playing, be my guest!! but hey, I literally have to start somewhere to get reads, and as time moves on, my reads evolve

It just feels a bit unnatural to me as opposed to just letting things develop on their own

[BlackStar]

Most of the arguments with Andante seem more like a clash of playstyle than a clash of win condition to me. Her aggression is unusual, yes, but aggression itself isn't scummy.

You're right. I agree that this is mostly a difference of playstyles

[Black]

I’m going to have to iso black because I feel a sense of coasting from the latest post. I don’t remember her doing that up to now but I don’t remember what she has done. :shrug:

that seems like a you problem. i'm not coasting i'm just horribly hungover lol

i'll post more later

[Andante]

VOTE: bob3141

[Andante]

Be honest what you have done heere just looks like your trying to pocket charles by white knighting them

why am I pocketing charles? I don't care to sort a slot doing nothing, your post looked more like scum quoting town/finding bad logic town says and going there than this actual thought you had

you said:
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very bad vote

So your saying you arnt trying to solve the game as thats what it looks like. Out side of conf town voting there dont you want to atleast sort that player. As what makes you think gen is even right.
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That doesn't look like you going "I SR this person" it looks like you're trying to say just wnough for someone else to go "yeah!! charles scummy!!!" when you KNOW there were like 5 people who just called charles scummy the other page

yet I'm over here white knighting charles??

[Generic]

I’m going to have to iso black because I feel a sense of coasting from the latest post. I don’t remember her doing that up to now but I don’t remember what she has done. :shrug:

that seems like a you problem. i'm not coasting i'm just horribly hungover lol

i'll post more later

Not really a me problem at all when I’m told people are supposed to actually show towny traits rather than coast then get defensive when the mere suggestion of it is made.

[Black]

"i don't remember what she's done"

that's the you problem

my memory is shit too so i can't really make fun of you for it

[Generic]

I’m old. Events in this game are like fingerprints on an oak handrail… sporadic and fading fast.

[Andante]

Gumiguy is town. that's my strongest tr

[Black]

Gumiguy is town. that's my strongest tr

why?

[Black]

his one post 102 actually pinged me. this seems like a really easy spot for scum to chime in and try to pocket you

[Black]

i agree with 66 that bug's readslist is a good sign. bug is probably town

[Andante]

I liked 102, that seemed like it comes from town

[Andante]

i agree with 66 that bug's readslist is a good sign. bug is probably town

I feel like calling town for only the readslist is dangerous though, like yes good look, but we've had nothing since, so ehhh

[Black]

I liked 102, that seemed like it comes from town

meh. i guess we are looking at it differently. to me it felt kinda diplomatic and fence-sitty

[Dannflor]

am i the only one who hated bug's reads list

[Black]

i agree with 66 that bug's readslist is a good sign. bug is probably town

I feel like calling town for only the readslist is dangerous though, like yes good look, but we've had nothing since, so ehhh

true, but the day is only two IRL days long. the fact that bug hasn't posted more hasn't pinged me yet. and yeah posting a readslist isn't inherently townie but i tend to townread it when a newbie does it for some reason

[Andante]

am i the only one who hated bug's reads list

I mean, I said I wanted more, just that list isn't enough for a tr from me

[Andante]

i agree with 66 that bug's readslist is a good sign. bug is probably town

I feel like calling town for only the readslist is dangerous though, like yes good look, but we've had nothing since, so ehhh

true, but the day is only two IRL days long. the fact that bug hasn't posted more hasn't pinged me yet. and yeah posting a readslist isn't inherently townie but i tend to townread it when a newbie does it for some reason

the list is kinda all bug has done... like where's the live interaction with anyone?

[Dannflor]

I don't think it's actually very natural as a newbie to decide to make a reads list on every player in the game right out of the gate - especially if half your notes on people are "no thoughts" or just describing what they've done so far with no added commentary

it feels very stilted and unnatural for that to be what bluebug things is the most appropriate use of their time especially when no one in the thread even specifically asked for that or suggested that blue bug do that

I would speculate that either bluebug was coached by a team mate or even isn't actually a newbie like they claim