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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:13 pm

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TheWizard (6):
NotAnAxehole, rosterfoster, NerfedBuJ, nomnomnom, EeveeLution Army, bob3141
NerfedBuj (2):
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KidAmn (1):
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Wagonomics (1):
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with 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. day 1 ends may 6th at 19:20 central US time; in (expired on 2019-05-06 19:20:00)

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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:16 pm

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In post 997, RuiRui wrote:I don't think wizard is scum though
Well, unfortunately, you weren't here all day, and this is who we're lynching.
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:30 pm

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I've been busy and only skimming this game really, work and graduation are biting me in the butt with business. So that's my excuse for not being active as I should and only skimming

I was ready to sheep axe as I thought he was obv town, and I was gonna hop on the wizard wagon. But I'm not so sure I like that 1v1 anymore.

Axe's "lynch me tomorrow if he flips town regardless of my claim" sounds more like a scum thing to say, which has been my first reason to believe axe might not be obv town. I'm still learning town on the Axe slot and believe axe is town over wizard tho.

Another thing that concerns me is the speed of the wagon, because if Axe and wizard are both town, it's an easy double mislynch since axe seems so adamant about going into the 1v1.

I think I can hop onto the wizard wagon if axe claims his roll, but without a solid claim as to why he knows wizard is lying, I would rather not lynch in them for now.

Pretty sure Nero is town. Granted, I have only one or two games with him but his play is very familiar with town!nero, but I'm sure most of you guys have better meta knowledge of him. Plus, he is being very skeptical and pushing at slots which seem read by most as town.

I think think one of Wagonomics/Flavor Leaf might be scum. I'm gonna go more into my reads on them later and tbh I'm skimming but this was my gut read.
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:32 pm

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Interesting. I would like to know why KidAmn is not voting for TheWizard?

Why EeveeLution Army was not voting Skygazer?

What caused bob so much hesitation before rejoining the wagon the second time, either you trust that the wagon is town or you don't?
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:35 pm

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Honestly, the Saudade slot & the bob slot come out looking pretty bad for voting wagons. (of course Saudade got replaced and Wagamama doesn't necessarily agree with Saudade's reads, which could play into that discrepancy)
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:36 pm

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@KidAmn, same question is I directed at bob, why are you not on TheWizard lynch? It makes your first move on Skygazer seem very opportunistic.
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:38 pm

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Tbh all the slots with little activity are all clumping together in my brain, and I haven't given enough of a look to know where I stand in then from recent activity. Will put this on my to do list for let when I get back as well.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:39 pm

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In post 1002, Sickofit1138 wrote:I've been busy and only skimming this game really, work and graduation are biting me in the butt with business. So that's my excuse for not being active as I should and only skimming

I was ready to sheep axe as I thought he was obv town, and I was gonna hop on the wizard wagon. But I'm not so sure I like that 1v1 anymore.

Axe's "lynch me tomorrow if he flips town regardless of my claim" sounds more like a scum thing to say, which has been my first reason to believe axe might not be obv town. I'm still learning town on the Axe slot and believe axe is town over wizard tho.

Another thing that concerns me is the speed of the wagon, because if Axe and wizard are both town, it's an easy double mislynch since axe seems so adamant about going into the 1v1.

I think I can hop onto the wizard wagon if axe claims his roll, but without a solid claim as to why he knows wizard is lying, I would rather not lynch in them for now.

Pretty sure Nero is town. Granted, I have only one or two games with him but his play is very familiar with town!nero, but I'm sure most of you guys have better meta knowledge of him. Plus, he is being very skeptical and pushing at slots which seem read by most as town.

I think think one of Wagonomics/Flavor Leaf might be scum. I'm gonna go more into my reads on them later and tbh I'm skimming but this was my gut read.
If you think 4 days is a fast wagon, I'm guessing you're a sloth?
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:40 pm

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In post 1006, Sickofit1138 wrote:Tbh all the slots with little activity are all clumping together in my brain, and I haven't given enough of a look to know where I stand in then from recent activity. Will put this on my to do list for let when I get back as well.
... Just vote so that we can get this over with before the weekend, you're not shifting the wagon, so just vote.
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:41 pm

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In post 1007, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 1002, Sickofit1138 wrote:I've been busy and only skimming this game really, work and graduation are biting me in the butt with business. So that's my excuse for not being active as I should and only skimming

I was ready to sheep axe as I thought he was obv town, and I was gonna hop on the wizard wagon. But I'm not so sure I like that 1v1 anymore.

Axe's "lynch me tomorrow if he flips town regardless of my claim" sounds more like a scum thing to say, which has been my first reason to believe axe might not be obv town. I'm still learning town on the Axe slot and believe axe is town over wizard tho.

Another thing that concerns me is the speed of the wagon, because if Axe and wizard are both town, it's an easy double mislynch since axe seems so adamant about going into the 1v1.

I think I can hop onto the wizard wagon if axe claims his roll, but without a solid claim as to why he knows wizard is lying, I would rather not lynch in them for now.

Pretty sure Nero is town. Granted, I have only one or two games with him but his play is very familiar with town!nero, but I'm sure most of you guys have better meta knowledge of him. Plus, he is being very skeptical and pushing at slots which seem read by most as town.

I think think one of Wagonomics/Flavor Leaf might be scum. I'm gonna go more into my reads on them later and tbh I'm skimming but this was my gut read.
If you think 4 days is a fast wagon, I'm guessing you're a sloth?
Clearly.

Probably felt fast to me since I'm just reading all this now to be fair
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:42 pm

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In post 1008, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 1006, Sickofit1138 wrote:Tbh all the slots with little activity are all clumping together in my brain, and I haven't given enough of a look to know where I stand in then from recent activity. Will put this on my to do list for let when I get back as well.
... Just vote so that we can get this over with before the weekend, you're not shifting the wagon, so just vote.
Claim?
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:43 pm

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In post 1010, Sickofit1138 wrote:
In post 1008, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 1006, Sickofit1138 wrote:Tbh all the slots with little activity are all clumping together in my brain, and I haven't given enough of a look to know where I stand in then from recent activity. Will put this on my to do list for let when I get back as well.
... Just vote so that we can get this over with before the weekend, you're not shifting the wagon, so just vote.
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:50 pm

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In post 1011, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 1010, Sickofit1138 wrote:
In post 1008, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 1006, Sickofit1138 wrote:Tbh all the slots with little activity are all clumping together in my brain, and I haven't given enough of a look to know where I stand in then from recent activity. Will put this on my to do list for let when I get back as well.
... Just vote so that we can get this over with before the weekend, you're not shifting the wagon, so just vote.
Claim?
I promise to claim the moment Day 2 starts.
Not good enough for me to hop on his wagon today. If he doesn't get lynched today and you claim tomorrow, I'd be much more comfortable with a Wizard lynch.

Tbh I'm very likely just being dumb, but I don't see a reason not to claim today.
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:50 pm

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You being dumb is not a good reason for me to claim.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 4:56 pm

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Someone explain to me why I'm being dumb.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 5:08 pm

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In post 928, Flavor Leaf wrote:I can’t mention why, but I see Wizard as the type who messes around as town an will claim randomly early games.
i was seeing it too which is why i gave him another chance, but i dont want him stalling time out if he is scum.
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 5:12 pm

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In post 1012, Sickofit1138 wrote:
In post 1011, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 1010, Sickofit1138 wrote:
In post 1008, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 1006, Sickofit1138 wrote:Tbh all the slots with little activity are all clumping together in my brain, and I haven't given enough of a look to know where I stand in then from recent activity. Will put this on my to do list for let when I get back as well.
... Just vote so that we can get this over with before the weekend, you're not shifting the wagon, so just vote.
Claim?
I promise to claim the moment Day 2 starts.
Not good enough for me to hop on his wagon today. If he doesn't get lynched today and you claim tomorrow, I'd be much more comfortable with a Wizard lynch.

Tbh I'm very likely just being dumb, but I don't see a reason not to claim today.
the problem is are you willing to no lynch for it? and if not who do you actually want lynched today and is it even plausible it happens
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 5:13 pm

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In post 1012, Sickofit1138 wrote:.

Tbh
I'm very likely just being dumb
, but I don't see a reason not to claim today.
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 5:14 pm

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In post 1014, Sickofit1138 wrote:Someone explain to me why I'm being dumb.
Is my last post explanation enough?
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 5:16 pm

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How about, I'm leading a wagon that is L-2, that seems to be good reason not to claim today.

There is no way I'm getting lynched, another good reason not to claim today.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 6:36 pm

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In post 987, Wagonomics wrote:
In post 468, NerfedBuJ wrote:Sickofit has triggered my secret scum tell alarm. Just saying this now for bragging rights. I'm not giving away my tell. (Also the sample size is still too small to make conclusions from and if it's no longer secret scum would probably stop doing it)
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 6:43 pm

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In post 956, Skygazer wrote:saudade was town af because he's much less aggressive as scum
I'd argue that he was semi-aggressive early game
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Fri May 03, 2019 11:16 pm

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[quote="In post 1003,

What caused bob so much hesitation before rejoining the wagon the second time, either you trust that the wagon is town or you don't?[/quote]

Two fold, first I felt uneasy at the speed people switched from one to the other. Just looked like one or two mafia migth have simply hopped from one wagon to teh other. Secondly due to teh first and that I realy wanted wizzard a chance to defend himself. As there have been questions asked of him, that would atleast allow us to make a more informed choice.

But when it became clear he was just skulking back into lurking after posting that he was sorry for not posting. There was no reason to delay reapplying my vote any longer. Since I was clearly never going to get a response and as I said quite bit earlier I was reading wizard as scum


Not sure what you mean by slot but if its where im voting. Then i like to remind you that On those two wagons I voted at different times. And on wizards over night 4 votes appeared on him after sky claim. Then eve voted for him while I waited for wizard to reply to my questioning.
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2019 7:09 am

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@Sick - if one of wagon or myself are scum theother will catch it soon enough
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2019 7:13 am

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In post 1023, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Sick - if one of wagon or myself are scum theother will catch it soon enough
Yep, he will probably catch you tomorrow
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