Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[mastina]

Flavor

"I personally have no clue what I'm doing, but doesn't stop me from pointing fingers! Hey, you. YOU'RE A WOLF!"

"Saying it doesn't make it true, you know."

"...It doesn't?"

"Pretty sure everyone in here would have transformed into wolves if so."

"But what if it's only when I say it? Or what if I'm just so good I'm always right?"

"Hmm, you might have a point there."

Votecount 1-17 (017) Simple

Luna Nova - 3 (Aronis, RadiantCowbells, CheekyTeeky)

northsidegal - 3 (ArcAngel9, Archwing, TheGoldenParadox)

TheGoldenParadox - 3 (Vecna, northsidegal, Creature)
RadiantCowbells - 1 (Luna Nova)
Theta Alpine - 1 (Yuurei)
Yuurei - 1 (Keychain)
HeWhoSwims - 1 (hebichan)
Definition - 1 (Theta Alpine)

Not Voting - 4 (HeWhoSwims, Definition, Almost50, MathBlade)

Mod Notes

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• Definition has been prodded. He has this long to respond: (expired on 2018-06-03 01:18:45).
  
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[Luna Nova]

Hello, is this Diana or nameless head?

Yes

[Keychain]

Okay probably not Diana then. Just curious.

Honestly considering replacing out.

me too

I was going to replace out then I made a quote wall instead, it was quite cathartic. I think this game is going to be fun.

Yes, you can. I have faith in you. I would rather talk with you about reads, because I'm surprised you asked for a readslist then didn't say anything about you being the only player not on it.

What is your read on me?

I'm going to be a jerk and keep it secret until you don't sound like you're reading from a script.

This post is questionable. It starts off as burden of proficiency based on one game of evidence, and doesn't follow to the conclusion since your push isn't based on TGP's reads at all (or certainly shouldn't be considering it's D1). So I agree with TGP's defense in 933. Not sure what to think about 936's vote in retaliation.

It's not just based on one game of evidence - I quoted more than one there. Perhaps a larger sample size would disprove it, but in the first place it was always more about my idea of tgp as a player rather than a specific comparison to another game. The things I quoted were simply to give an example of what I was saying.

What do you mean when you say that it "doesn't follow yo the conclusion since it isn't based on his reads"? I don't understand why you would think it has to be about his reads in specific instead of just, say, the questions he asks to scumhunt.

If you know someone asks pointed, relevant questions as town but then in a game their scumhunting seems lacklustre, how wouldn't that be relevant?

I've just realised I initially read it as "i think that TGP

's reads

being bad or good is actually AI for him". Now I reread it, your point makes a lot more sense. I'm still not sure why you'd use the good lynchpool as an example of his townplay though.
I only have one game with him where he was town, but my main impression from that was that he was fairly mislynchable.

[RadiantCowbells]

scumread then, key?

you're welcome to keep it to yourself

[RadiantCowbells]

Subject: Mini 1947: Board Game uPick: The Expansion! Game Over

You were chosen because I wanted to stall out the day and reaction test people to have something usable in terms of reads on the remaining playerlist. My slot is still town, but I didn't think that there was any other play that could be made that would get everyone to stop trying to bite my neck off and prolong the day enough that I could contribute something before I died.

Let's make this 100% clear: if I am somehow janned you lynch MTC, no questions. They don't get away with this play.

I believe based on Drixx's reaction that he is town. I think that MTC did not react like we claimed masons with their scumbuddies: if we did I think they would have done things differently, especially wrt them and 2IAM trying to get a quicklynch onto me. I think that Adan might be scum and that Morph are trying to use their push on them as scumbuddies to 'clear' them. 2IAM is still scum.

So something like

{Porkens, Drixx}
{WhyMafia, Randomidget}
{Arcade Pals}
-blob of nullreads
{Actiondan}
{2IAM}
{MTC}

Maybe you should re-read a bit more fore context. Helluva "gambit" to pull AS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO A DAYCOP GUILTY

No such things as daycops, boyos, but you already know that.

Our only reasonable way of getting this to go our way was to get MTC quicklynched before Drixx showed up, which didn't pan out unfortunately.
GL town. I sincerely hope something is learned from this in future games because this situation wasn't at all fair to me or Raskolnikov.

The same person that claimed this daycop guilty wrote this post

so when I say that this hydra is scum deliberately trying to throw me off my game by repeatedly declaring shit reasons to scumread me
you should believe it when they chose to pull a quote from the one game in my game history with cheating involved

also the fact that they felt the need to argue with a claimed guilty feels like they thought that there was even a slight chance that the guilty could be true.
Oh: and I did ping mastina when this actually happened and got a response, so the claim that mastina wasn't around yesterday 9:47 pm is bogus.

[RadiantCowbells]

like the quote that they pulled up serves 0 purpose in terms of arguing the guilty is fake or arguing it's relation to my alignment because 1) the situation has absolutely zero line up and 2) there's no posts in this game that compare to that one what they were -actually- looking for when they pulled up that quote was something that discredits my reading reactions to reaction tests. the real point of that was the progression on drixx and trying to shut down any attempt by me to read reactions from the daycop by saying 'oh its been done before.'

at the time I claimed the guilty I was just going to carry it through because the slot was annoying me so much but I'm fairly sure that response came from scum

[RadiantCowbells]

Also talking specifically diana's reads their reads are

1) RC scum because I voted them for voting me, and someone who had done the level of research to find that specific quote would know that that situation is

at worst

entirely NAI. I don't feel the need to 'sneak votes in because I can' like they seem to believe, I play the long game, I would only make that vote as scum in an attempt to match my town meta
2) Hebichan town which is an unoriginal read that the majority of the playerlist also shared and of which very little auxilary evidence was given

most interestingly 3) NSG which she locktowned but importantly she locktowned her at a point where NSG was not locktown

Spoiler: NSG

/confirm town

VOTE: mathblade

i would be laughing but i'm still bitter

VOTE: keychain

hard scumreading keychain from her confirmation post. townreading aronis and tgp, need someone else to tell me if mathblade flipping out about tgp's joke is town or scum-indicative.

How strongly were you townreading me in our last game?

in the 1 vig game? right above GL and right below the worst, about.

northsidegal, what are you scum reading keychain for in her confirmation post?

trust me, i can soulread keychain. i'm pretty confident in this.

RC, trust me on this - vote keychain with me.

mathblade you

need

to slow down

i hadn't noticed that

going to stop fluffing now for a while

i find it hard to believe that apparently i'm among the hardest for you to sort already.

ugh, i feel like we're in this awkward "page 10 and still kind of RVS"-feeling.

NSG I don't put anything in this game outside of your scum limit.

but other people apparently are to the point where you're close to a full poe?

aw. it didn't work.

-sigh-

make keychain anxious like back in donner party.

yeah

Nothing in this iso justifies locktowning her. no explanation was given from them for that either
NSG is perfectly capable of everything she has done here as scum and as scum NSG is obviously not getting mislynched so it's easy to throw her a townread

[RadiantCowbells]

OH BOY I WONDER WHATS HAPPENING IN THIS GAME THAT I'M HYDRAING IN

northsidegal - 5 (ArcAngel9, hebichan, Archwing, MathBlade, TheGoldenParadox)

wtf??? NSG is like, obvious town.
I hate all of you.

this is another head but this is just awful

[RadiantCowbells]

This is a large game

VOTE: Luna Nova

please let's just lynch here and get rid of the hydra.

RC you seem to not really care about where your vote is atm and the way you're hopping around is really scummy imo.
VOTE: RC

and this is pretty awful too
like you have the same hydra using me being

super good scum

to discredit my reaction test (which again doesn't make sense at all for the purpose they were claiming to use it for, they ought to have pulled from a towngame where I fake guiltied) and saying that I'm scum because of stuff that's basically synonymous with scum playing awfully like I can't do better.

and somehow with virtually nobody in this game thinking that I'm scum all three of these heads agree that my slot is the one worth following up on?

[Almost50]

I am taking that completely out of context but that doesn’t change the fact that the guilty is still faked imo.

An invitation to play in my first tailored setup (in something between a month and century from now) to whomever tells me what I think is wrong with this post.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am taking that completely out of context but that doesn’t change the fact that the guilty is still faked imo.

An invitation to play in my first tailored setup (in something between a month and century from now) to whomever tells me what I think is wrong with this post.

for the record this reaction is the huge thing that everything else follows from: if they were town (regardless of read on me) there's no reason to argue that the guilty is fake.
arguing that the guilty is fake is hedging for a universe in which it's real imo, particularly given the choice of quotes to pull.

[ArcAngel9]

went out for clubbing, too sleepy to read now. will do in the morning.

[RadiantCowbells]

oh and no I don't actually have a guilty: I wasn't even particularly sure that they were scum. that claim was basically made because they were pissing me off

but that reaction was hilariously bad.

[Almost50]

I am taking that completely out of context but that doesn’t change the fact that the guilty is still faked imo.

An invitation to play in my first tailored setup (in something between a month and century from now) to whomever tells me what I think is wrong with this post.

for the record this reaction is the huge thing that everything else follows from: if they were town (regardless of read on me) there's no reason to argue that the guilty is fake.
arguing that the guilty is fake is hedging for a universe in which it's real imo, particularly given the choice of quotes to pull.

Close, but not quite. I can see a townie who knows they're town to argue against the guilty being guilty. I just don't see them adding "imo" at the end of it. On other words "the guilty is still faked" is the way a townie would phrase it because they know it's a fact. "the guilty is still faked

imo

" show doubt in their own alignment.

Conclusion: My vote is on Luna in spirit, but I still want Definition to get replaced and TALK before we end the day.

[Creature]

Hi, how can we solve this mess?

[RadiantCowbells]

how can we solve this game?

[CheekyTeeky]

I am taking that completely out of context but that doesn’t change the fact that the guilty is still faked imo.

An invitation to play in my first tailored setup (in something between a month and century from now) to whomever tells me what I think is wrong with this post.

They don't say that the guilty isn't possible because they're town and look for out-of-context evidence of it possibly being fake instead? Also why aren't they pushing RC harder if they are conf biased it's fake?

[CheekyTeeky]

"the guilty is still faked imo" show doubt in their own alignment.

Oh. Well close enough!

[RadiantCowbells]

sometimes i remember why you're one of my favorite people

[Almost50]

I am taking that completely out of context but that doesn’t change the fact that the guilty is still faked imo.

An invitation to play in my first tailored setup (in something between a month and century from now) to whomever tells me what I think is wrong with this post.

They don't say that the guilty isn't possible because they're town and look for out-of-context evidence of it possibly being fake instead? Also why aren't they pushing RC harder if they are conf biased it's fake?

Correct. "possibly" being the keyword. "imo" suggest they "think" it "might" be faked. That is definitely how I would have said it if it was faked on me, because I

know

I'm town, so I won't "think" it's fake but rather would be

positive

it is.

[Archwing]

UNVOTE:

[hebichan]

That't…. honestly completely valid.


VOTE: luna

[hebichan]

I'm still mad at all gambits.

They put a sour taste in my mouth

[mastina]

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