Mini 1997: The Clownspiracy (Game Over!)

[StefanB]

What! No a vig is not necesary a garantie that there is a counter from scum.
Actually vig is so swingy, that mostly there would be this roles to not make vigs anti-town.

[Maki Harukawa]

scum doc makes vig more anti town then it already is reeeeee

[Hiraki]

I'm with Maki here.

Kiana is at L-2.

[StefanB]

The Maki, Hiraki, Gamma, anyone else against Kianas lynch:
Why are you against it, what do you think is happening?

[Kokichi Oma]

Scum doctor with a shot vig in the game? Lol
The doctor is prob town if anything you should know this
and they won't be.
on the.
VIGS

There is a town doctor. There us ALSO a scum doctor or scum BP

you don't know this and I will assume otherwise unless you claim!

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma: Why? I would agree normally, if there weren't the claims. You don't let scum live.
Have you got a reason to believe Cedric is lying?
If so lynch him tomorrow on scum down.

Koichi: If we have a doctor, a JK for example shouldn't be on Cedric.

Why lynch in vig claims? We have a 50/50 shot of getting it right or wrong and if we get it wrong we set ourselves back a day. Whereas if they crosskill therre's a 100% chance of getting it right, and even if only the vig dies we still know the other is scum because they were either bp or doc'ed, and we also get to use our d1 lynch on someone else.

[Maki Harukawa]

Considering my role is also anti town we better have a shit ton more power if there was a "scum doc" but I don't think scum doc is in this game to begin with
PEDIT: THEY CLAIMED A ROLE THAT IS SELF RESOLVING

what is this hard to understand that the vigs are gonna shoot each other
scum doc isn't a thing
if we have a town doc they're not gonna be on the vigs

scum is gonna die tonight use the lynch on someone outside of it

[Maki Harukawa]

i am baffled that I need to explain this more then once this is mafia 101

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum doctor with a shot vig in the game? Lol
The doctor is prob town if anything you should know this
and they won't be.
on the.
VIGS

There is a town doctor. There us ALSO a scum doctor or scum BP

Why are you saying all of this? Do you have any idea of how to setup spec? You just seem to be throwing ideas at a wall and seeing what sticks.

[Kokichi Oma]

Nope. We lynch scum and Cedric shoots scum.

[Maki Harukawa]

Kokichi is scum anyway he's not this much of a moron

[Gamma Emerald]

What! No a vig is not necesary a garantie that there is a counter from scum.
Actually vig is so swingy, that mostly there would be this roles to not make vigs anti-town.

I agree with this actually. In my large normal I'd originally had a scum bp as counter to the town vig but it got removed, so scum doesn't need a doc/bp to counter vig

[Raskolnikov]

It's not 50-50 because counterclaiming when not under pressure (for arguably no benefit if scum) is strictly better than claiming because you're under danger of being hammered

and it's not 50-50 unless you read cedrick and kiana the exact same but I don't, kiana was way scummier and cedrick also crumbed a bunch. Do you townread kiana and scumread cedrick gamma?

[Kokichi Oma]

Yep. You caught me. I'm scum.

[Hiraki]

You don't even need to be good at thinking about balancing to know how this balancing doesn't make sense. citation - ME

Will not agree on Koki scum though. If anyone lost points here, it was Stefan tbh townbloc is crumbling down a little

[Gamma Emerald]

Kokichi is scum anyway he's not this much of a moron

The problem is getting enough town vote when most of the town is busy shitting their pants over vig counterclaims

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm with Maki here.

Kiana is at L-2.

what is the point of this

[Kokichi Oma]

Kiana I think is a competent scum. So I think she only claims vig IF she is scum BP or there is a mafia doc. If you don't agree with my logic, so be it.

[StefanB]

Maki: You have scum, you lynch it.
If you have sure scum, on 2 people, good lynch the one who is more likly scum.
I could also call this mafia 101.
And I trust a lynch more than nightactions, less chance to get it wrong.

[Maki Harukawa]

But the thing is we don't have conf scum
*gasp*

[StefanB]

One in Cedric and Kiana agreement?

[Hiraki]

I'm with Maki here.

Kiana is at L-2.

what is the point of this

She was at L-4 two pages ago. There was a pretty quick upturn. Seemed silent to me.

Kiana I think is a competent scum. So I think she only claims vig IF she is scum BP or there is a mafia doc. If you don't agree with my logic, so be it.

Which brings me to another point - I've looked at her other games, as I noted, and they don't even look comparable to this one. Which concerns me the most here.

One in Cedric and Kiana agreement?

Which is not confirmed because they're not flipped.

[Maki Harukawa]

One in Cedric and Kiana agreement?

yep

[Raskolnikov]

Gamma and maki not really speculating the actual alignments in this is weird imo.

[Maki Harukawa]

cause it doesn't matter
LMFAO