In post 1070, Moros wrote:
i don't really understand how everyone else was able to reorient their view of the game so quickly but i still think you're all town and i don't know how to fix that.
Can you walk through your current logic on everyone on coalition being town?
In post 1076, Moros wrote:
obviously they are not. but im not sure how to tell where i was wrong.
Well yes i understand this, but presumably you have reasons for each individual in the coalition for why you think that they are town, even knowing that one or more of those reasons are wrong. I'd like to know what those chief reasons are in the current state of where your head is at, without you having reread it. It doesn't have to be in depth, just like, a sentence or two on each person.
you can doubt it but it is true! i placed it then saw duck was voting there when isoing and had long forgotten aventurine was voting there because why would i have remembered that
Black, where's the current strength of your Moros townread coming from? You mentioned that it was reinforced by the sequence around the coalition being hammered, what about that do you find strong town? And what is your current stance on tired person, you said you'd consider arguments about them but where are you at in general there?
Moros makes lots of posts that seem curious but also has a feeling of zero wim.
The post going "I think it's weird and interesting [and NAI] that all of you are able to scumread your coalition friends so quickly" kind of has both those features although other times it will seem curious about actual alignment but like it doesn't care.
I usually feel like those kinds of people in most games turn out to be town even if the WIM isn't there but maybe other people see the curious posting as a ruse specifically for that reason.
Hey there everyone! I’m reading up now before I make my first real post in the next few hours. I haven’t played in a while so please bear with me. Are there any fresh read questions anyone has for my slot?
I’m around a quarter of a way through and so far me and who I’m taking over have very different reads on people. Although i understand the mechanics of this set up, im trying not to read ahead too much so i can have a natural reading thought process. I’ve gather the coalition failed for town win(?) Looking forward to seeing if either the two I have pinged as scum appear in the coalition.
Left for a bit but I’m now halfway through. Really enjoying reading aventurine and hope to play with him sometime.
Still have no idea what the end coalition was but I had scum read on May and Ceejay but tp’s 461 is such a good post that I had to stop and reconsider my opinion. Hope to be caught up by the end of the night but we’ll see.
In post 597, the worst wrote:
the worst
implosion
Moros
May
Black
Tsawwassen (this is a bad read)
tired person
experience
Aventurine
as of right now
May should be higher but I'm so bad at reading May accurately she's such a significant loss vector aaaahhhh
HURT: all HEAL: implosion, may
everyone else may now begin begging for inclusion
I could just be biased because my slot is at the bottom, but (imo) this is such an interesting flavor of bad take as not only is it a bad take in and of itself but it’s a bad take that was shared by their predicessor who I still somewhat scum read. I’ll come back to this probably soon.
In post 1092, DArby wrote:
Left for a bit but I’m now halfway through. Really enjoying reading aventurine and hope to play with him sometime.
Still have no idea what the end coalition was but I had scum read on May and Ceejay but tp’s 461 is such a good post that I had to stop and reconsider my opinion. Hope to be caught up by the end of the night but we’ll see.
I've felt more solid about Black and May lately, in short. I think the trajectory of Black's reads has been very haphazard in a townish way; like I said the me+may thing is something I think town can very reasonably come up with (which doesn't necessarily make it a significantly +town thing for Black but I think it is a little +town). I think the way that she's been seemingly becoming more stuck in that worldview while having been generally fairly fluid with her reads is townish. I thought her flat-out taking the lead and saying "this is the coalition, do we have the 5 people?" and reaching out to a bunch of individual people in that situation was quite townish, I think she was pretty likely to be on coalition at that point and she's definitely not the kind of player who would try to railroad a specific coalition for the sake of e.g. making sure scum are split on/off so I think her scum incentive to be so politically active at coalition phase end is sort of not there so much.
May has just townpinged me a lot since ~1/2 way through the game. I don't really have a problem with the way she's been paranoid of me. She's been even more all over the place with her reads to some extent iirc. gun to my head i'd say i don't actually have any
real
confidence in this read inasmuch as I don't really have confidence in my own ability to read May. But I think at some point I have to just accept the read if I keep getting pinged that way. e.g. 949 feels like a town post, just the way she's talked about her reads in general i think i could cite specific examples if you want but you also appear to townread her so. if i go and look for examples it won't actually necessarily be the same posts that made me feel she's town over time it'd just be the ones i notice now
this is very believable and agree-able. i'm going to unvote while i ruminate, but pls don't take it to mean i don't scumread u anymore.
Maybe the pattern of early lingering townread is actually something that's really scum indicative. 965 rubs me the wrong way. It feels very waters testing, it reads as a really 1 dimensional view of the game, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. tired person's posting is generally not bad right now.
i'm not of one mind regarding this vote. on the one hand i think as scum, implosion would know that there seems to be a lot of resistance to voting me (and that black and may seem to be hard to fade) so might just be taking the most "politically viable" (to use his own words) fade here. on the other hand, if implosion is town then the scum in the coalition is almost certainly moros. what i really want to know is:
why do u suddenly townread me? i thought u had me quite low all game and objected to having me in the coalition.
