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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:45 am

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In post 1095, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 1062, HerryPanther wrote:
I'll know your alignment soon enough.

no that's not a soft, you nerds

-Panth


Why did you feel the need to clarify that?

so scums don't figure out I'm cop and NK me. like duh, obviously.

In post 1095, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 866, MattP wrote:Mastin does long-winded WIFOMy self-reflecting posts every opportunity she gets, it means nothing

ew
In post 867, LicketyQuickety wrote:MM can be in my tentative Scum reads right now.

ewwwwww

Care to elaborate on these "eww's"?
I fail to see the 'grossness' especially in LQ's post, which I interpret you find more scummy because of your added w's
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:46 am

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didn't read MattP's first...but ya... TWIE, you have multiple people wondering, apparently.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:33 am

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In post 1023, Heartless wrote:i don't know, man...

tth thinks you're scum too and she's pretty sharp.

I did
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say that, Anti. Shows how well you listen to me. :(

I said I have concerns about that slot:
*
I was already scum reading the
previous occupant of the slot, Nobody Special
. His early posts struck me the same way they struck Antihero, summarized by: , , and .
*
Leaving Maxous out of the nightkill analysis
. There's a couple possible reasons for the asymmetrical nightkill analysis Lickety's been engaged in. The more generous interpretation of this is that he's simply lost on the Maxous kill and therefore ignores it. I got a similar take-away message from . There's some things wrong with this viewpoint. There've been enough people expressing a town read on Maxous so the kill is very far from untraceable. A more paranoid, and more believable, interpretation is that he's hunting for ika's killer because he already knows full well who killed Maxous and tracking down ika's killer is a lot higher priority of his. What makes this worse is that he apparently thinks there's an SK (). This leads to believe the night kill speculation is really disguised SK-hunting.
*
The way he voted Vedith the first time around
. This is in . I don't fault him for actually voting Vedith when Antihero asked him to but the accompanying explanation really freaks me out because it's so stilted. The justification feels over-explained and there's this odd favoring of the general ("universally Town read player") over the specific that leads to a weird cognitive disconnect between the reads and vote. It would've felt more natural if he said
he specifically
was town reading us. Antihero picked up on this in and said something. Lickety's joke-y, sarcastic reaction to him in exacerbates my concern.
*
A few scattered things here and there that didn't deserve their own bullet point
: using OMGUS as a buzzword to push a scum read (), saying he'll do a Performer reread in and not following through, and scum reading a soft target while attaching an unnecessary qualifier ().
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:50 am

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In post 1102, Heartless wrote:
In post 1023, Heartless wrote:i don't know, man...

tth thinks you're scum too and she's pretty sharp.

I did
not
say that, Anti. Shows how well you listen to me. :(

I said I have concerns about that slot:
*
I was already scum reading the
previous occupant of the slot, Nobody Special
. His early posts struck me the same way they struck Antihero, summarized by: , , and .
*
Leaving Maxous out of the nightkill analysis
. There's a couple possible reasons for the asymmetrical nightkill analysis Lickety's been engaged in. The more generous interpretation of this is that he's simply lost on the Maxous kill and therefore ignores it. I got a similar take-away message from . There's some things wrong with this viewpoint. There've been enough people expressing a town read on Maxous so the kill is very far from untraceable. A more paranoid, and more believable, interpretation is that he's hunting for ika's killer because he already knows full well who killed Maxous and tracking down ika's killer is a lot higher priority of his. What makes this worse is that he apparently thinks there's an SK (). This leads to believe the night kill speculation is really disguised SK-hunting.
*
The way he voted Vedith the first time around
. This is in . I don't fault him for actually voting Vedith when Antihero asked him to but the accompanying explanation really freaks me out because it's so stilted. The justification feels over-explained and there's this odd favoring of the general ("universally Town read player") over the specific that leads to a weird cognitive disconnect between the reads and vote. It would've felt more natural if he said
he specifically
was town reading us. Antihero picked up on this in and said something. Lickety's joke-y, sarcastic reaction to him in exacerbates my concern.
*
A few scattered things here and there that didn't deserve their own bullet point
: using OMGUS as a buzzword to push a scum read (), saying he'll do a Performer reread in and not following through, and scum reading a soft target while attaching an unnecessary qualifier ().


*Nothing I can do about that

*Max just seemed like a boring Kill. The Asymmetric part is that I overlook a lot of info and am kinda bias to what info actually interests me in the thread. I don't have enough experience playing mafia, nor do I have the right type of thought disposition to take all aspects of the game into account. I am a pretty intuitive player and am really bad at picking up some things that others would consider obvious. Take this as tongue and cheek, but just because people have someone as a town read does not mean they are Town. If you are saying Scum were giving them a town read I could understand or if certain players like your slot had them as strong town I could understand, but I honestly didn't really pick up all the town reads on Max. My setup theory should really have no barring on my opinion on Max, thats just a little too shoots and ladders for me.

*I explained it that way for a reason. That reason is that if you look at some of my games, I don't like to sheep and will only do so with a really good reason. That reason was stated.

*You are correct here. I did not do a reread of Performer because I thought enough people were already doing that and I lost interest in it. You're saying because I said I thought something was OMGUS that that is reason to suspect me? help me out with this one. Yes I have a problem with the MM slot because their tone felt really off to me -especially the first few posts they made and they've done jack shit.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:58 am

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In post 1103, LicketyQuickety wrote:nor do I have the right type of thought disposition to take all aspects of the game into account.

I'm going to take a whole post by itself to call bullshit on this.

Bullshit.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:00 am

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In post 1104, Heartless wrote:
In post 1103, LicketyQuickety wrote:nor do I have the right type of thought disposition to take all aspects of the game into account.

I'm going to take a whole post by itself to call bullshit on this.

Bullshit.


You're free to be the second on the wagon right after RR.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:02 am

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In post 1103, LicketyQuickety wrote:You're saying because I said I thought something was OMGUS that that is reason to suspect me? help me out with this one.

Antihero already tried to get this out of you and you gave him an incomplete answer.

How is OMGUS alignment indicative, in general and in this instance with mastin and Reasonably Rational?
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:03 am

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In post 1105, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1104, Heartless wrote:
In post 1103, LicketyQuickety wrote:nor do I have the right type of thought disposition to take all aspects of the game into account.

I'm going to take a whole post by itself to call bullshit on this.

Bullshit.


You're free to be the second on the wagon right after RR.

I'm not going to move our vote until after Antihero and I get on the same page. The antagonism isn't necessary at all.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:09 am

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In post 1107, Heartless wrote:
In post 1105, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1104, Heartless wrote:
In post 1103, LicketyQuickety wrote:nor do I have the right type of thought disposition to take all aspects of the game into account.

I'm going to take a whole post by itself to call bullshit on this.

Bullshit.


You're free to be the second on the wagon right after RR.

I'm not going to move our vote until after Antihero and I get on the same page. The antagonism isn't necessary at all.


What would you like me to say? "Its not bullshit, I sincerely feel that way"?
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:12 am

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In post 1106, Heartless wrote:
In post 1103, LicketyQuickety wrote:You're saying because I said I thought something was OMGUS that that is reason to suspect me? help me out with this one.

Antihero already tried to get this out of you and you gave him an incomplete answer.

How is OMGUS alignment indicative, in general and in this instance with mastin and Reasonably Rational?


Well its really easy to use a literal OMGUS as Scum to just to show you think what they say is bullshit.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:21 am

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LicketyQuickety wrote:What would you like me to say? "Its not bullshit, I sincerely feel that way"?

It doesn't matter what I like, and I haven't dismissed the possibility that you just really sell yourself short.

Going into emo mode and tell me to just vote you isn't going to help me sort you.
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:26 am

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In post 1110, Heartless wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:What would you like me to say? "Its not bullshit, I sincerely feel that way"?

It doesn't matter what I like, and I haven't dismissed the possibility that you just really sell yourself short.

Going into emo mode and tell me to just vote you isn't going to help me sort you.


If you want to ask me questions to help you sort me, go right ahead.
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:43 pm

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VOTE COUNT

LicketyQuickety (1): Reasonably Rational
MonkeyMan576 (1): pisskop
Reasonably Rational (4): MattP, Cephrir, Heartless, Firebringer
Teridax (1): Vedith
Vedith (4): Spiffeh, Teridax, HerryPanther, LicketyQuickety
Not voting (6): BotLane, davesaz, MonkeyMan576, PeregrineV, TheWayItEnds, Kthxbye

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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:55 pm

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Vote: Reasonably Rational


I don't like his vote on LQ, he is definitely low hanging fruit.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:03 pm

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In post 1113, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Vote: Reasonably Rational


I don't like his vote on LQ, he is definitely low hanging fruit.


Errr...

That's a pretty underwhelming post.

What else you got?
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:08 pm

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I'm working on it, not much happens early in large games as a rule.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:10 pm

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In post 1115, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm working on it, not much happens early in large games as a rule.


Well I hope you have like a reads list or at least something for use to see where you are on things soonish.

I think you saw I have you as a scum read, correct?
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:11 pm

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In post 1116, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1115, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm working on it, not much happens early in large games as a rule.


Well I hope you have like a reads list or at least something for use to see where you are on things soonish.

I think you saw I have you as a scum read, correct?


You have a right to your opinion, it doesn't make RR's vote of you any less suspicious.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:13 pm

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In post 1117, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 1116, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1115, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm working on it, not much happens early in large games as a rule.


Well I hope you have like a reads list or at least something for use to see where you are on things soonish.

I think you saw I have you as a scum read, correct?


You have a right to your opinion, it doesn't make RR's vote of you any less suspicious.


Right and I would just not like to see you skate by with little content bussing your teammates for Town cred and then doing nothing else.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:13 pm

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Also the buddying is noted.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:15 pm

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I'm waiting for something to happen.

I'm not going to make something out of nothing to look town.
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:18 pm

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And I'm not buddying you, I'm just being honest.

Buddying someone who is lynch bait would not be good strategy.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:20 pm

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LQ is not lynchbait
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:21 pm

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In post 1122, MattP wrote:LQ is not lynchbait


Not anymore.

Look at my early games (reads summary), MM has a point.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:26 pm

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To be fair, I haven't played with LQ recently. The last time I saw him was when he got D1 lynched in Star Trek DS9 mafia, which I modded.

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