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[Road Kamelot]

Yeah youre not scumreading me dude that much is obvious
Also goodnight!!!

[MortFeld]

So either you had the obvtown read earlier or it just showed up
If you had it earlier then letting someone be close to a lynch w a townread on them while on their wagon is bad.
VOTE: Mort

Going to indulge this once more. If by bad you mean Red! motivated, is it still Red! motivated if HS had been at L-2 for a very long time with no foreshadowing of movement?

For an idea of where my head was really at, I did see HS' more recent posts as obvtown. This I had to weigh against the facts that HS 1. was on the bad TF wagon after TRing TF 2. tried a weird Creeps push with awful reasoning during the TF wagon after Creeps softclaimed and 3. Has made numerous references to PRs that look like PR hunting. Your push on me is so bad it's a joke, at least Naomi's came from a place of reading the game.

Pedit: I am definitely SRing you. You are Red and everybody should vote you immediately.

[MortFeld]

Missed a logical conclusion above. With those two competing ideas (which I had summarized as gut = Green vs head = Red), I see my not unvoting HS as completely reasonable. I'm wondering why you don't.

[Road Kamelot]

Keep saying thatHS was obvtown but logically scummy bc its making a whole lot of sense
that post after my vote doesn't come from town

[MortFeld]

Wow. So here's what I said.

I did see HS' more recent posts as obvtown.

One of the few things I agree with you on is that HS has been obvtown posting.

And here's what you said.

Keep saying thatHS was obvtown but logically scummy bc its making a whole lot of sense

Tell me this isn't a misrep. It is completely consistent to say that HS has been obvtown posting, and also that HS' prior actions look Red. The conclusion if HS is green would be: HS made mistakes and has rebounded.

You are misrepping this and saying that I thought HS was obvtown the whole time. Even now I am struggling with the slot, but yours I am certain of.

[Human Sequencer]

This reads TvT to me. Road could be scum but I don't see any way Mort could be scum.

@Road, when you read over the game, you'll see me voting and pushing on Mort for similar reasons you are here. I think you'll get a feel for how he's playing and where he's coming from after you read over it. I scumread it at first too.

[keyenpeydee]

Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.27

[2] Road Kamelot - ChaosOmega, Mortfeld,
[0] ArcAngel9 -
[1] Toto -
[0] Nero Cain -
[0] Drone -
[1] DeathByWobbuffet - TwoFace,

[L-3]

Human Sequencer - Drone, Lil Uzi Vert, Creeps20, Toto,
[1] MortFeld - Road Kamelot,
[0] Lil Uzi Vert -
[0] TwoFace -
[0] Naomi-Tan -
[0] ChaosOmega -
[0] Creeps20 -

Not Voting

- Nero Cain, ArcAngel9, Human Sequencer, DeathByWobbuffet, Naomi-Tan,

MOD NOTES:

Creeps20 hasn't been active for 3 days and is now being replaced.

V/LA:

Toto, ChaosOmega and Road Kamelot

With

13

Alive, it takes

7

to lynch. Day One will end in

(expired on 2016-11-21 15:40:00)

[Human Sequencer]

Replacements: The Thread

Come on guys, we should be better than this.

[keyenpeydee]

Replacements: The Thread

Come on guys, we should be better than this.

Seconded the one in bolded.

[keyenpeydee]

Just so you all know, I've changed the rules with mine (I asked Nexus first of course). I paraphrased everything and added some new. Take time to read it although it sounds the same.

[keyenpeydee]

Shadow_step replaces Creeps20. Welcome him!

[Human Sequencer]

Yo shadowstep. You replaced into an enigma. Good luck reading up.

[Shadow_step]

Thanks HS!

I'll read up at some point, it would be great if anyone wants to give me a summary.

[Human Sequencer]

596
779
Two different interpretations of how the game went, both a little outdated.

[keyenpeydee]

I've decided we're not doing Plurality Lynch, Instead we'll do Majority. I'll extend the deadline by 3 days. After that, No extensions. Y'all need to work. Deadline is in:

(expired on 2016-11-21 15:40:00)

Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.28

[2] Road Kamelot - ChaosOmega, Mortfeld,
[0] ArcAngel9 -
[1] Toto -
[0] Nero Cain -
[0] Drone -
[1] DeathByWobbuffet - TwoFace,

[L-3]

Human Sequencer - Drone, Lil Uzi Vert, Shadow_step, Toto,
[1] MortFeld - Road Kamelot,
[0] Lil Uzi Vert -
[0] TwoFace -
[0] Naomi-Tan -
[0] ChaosOmega -
[0] Shadow_step -

Not Voting

- Nero Cain, ArcAngel9, Human Sequencer, DeathByWobbuffet, Naomi-Tan,

MOD NOTES:

Keep everything cool and enjoyable! Also the message before the VC!

V/LA:

Toto, ChaosOmega and Road Kamelot

With

13

Alive, it takes

7

to lynch. Day One will end in

(expired on 2016-11-21 15:40:00)

[MortFeld]

You think Road vs me is TvT...

Let it be known that if a wagon picks up for any of these slots, I'd be on board for a lynch;
Kamelot, ArcAngel, Creeps

Can you explain why you think Road's part is town? To change from then to now I feel that Road must have done something real Green! motivated. Were Road, ArcAngel, and Creeps your Red! reads?

[TwoFace]

I fee like the original remaining players should replace out also

[Nero Cain]

@Mort, Where did I say I was done catching up? Though I will say that RK town reading me so early is ??? Scum that knows I'm town? Maybe but then HS calling this a TvT could also be scum that knows you and RK are scum but then I see plenty of players that just call any long winded arguments TvT.

[Nero Cain]

@Mort, Where did I say I was done catching up? Though I will say that RK town reading me so early is ??? Scum that knows I'm town? Maybe but then HS calling this a TvT could also be scum that knows you and RK are scum but then I see plenty of players that just call any long winded arguments TvT.

[Nero Cain]

^
such a good post it posted twice

[MortFeld]

@Mort, Where did I say I was done catching up? Though I will say that RK town reading me so early is ??? Scum that knows I'm town? Maybe but then HS calling this a TvT could also be scum that knows you and RK are scum but then I see plenty of players that just call any long winded arguments TvT.

I didn't imply that you're done catching up! I assumed you were doing a readthrough and pointing out things that stood out.

Yeah, Road's saying you're town with such little information pinged me as Road maybe having prior information. If Road was Green they'd be willing to examine their logic for the read with me; instead, they accused me of misrepping and didn't answer my questions.

HS also called me vs Copper TvT, so the idea that they might just always say arguments are TvT is reasonable. What Copper and I had was an argument. What Road and I had was not - I questioned Road on certain things, and Road acted extremely defensive, answered what they could, avoided what they could not, and then attacked me. Arguments require reasoning aimed at a conclusion, traits that Road's posts lack unless their reasoning is 'heebie jeebys' and their conclusion is 'Mort is Red'. HS, if you're Green please reread the interaction, and if you still think Road is Green please explain.

[Naomi-Tan]

I really don't like roads vote.. I feel this push is kinda build on a foundation of sand.. I know this isn't really adding much but.. honestly this looks like a red push.. at least I had some theory behind it... I feel like voting.. so I guess I can

VOTE: Road Kamelot

Sorry for not adding too much here.. but It literally was just these interactions so... not much more to add here.

[TwoFace]

I really don't like roads vote.. I feel this push is kinda build on a foundation of sand

You don't say...

[TwoFace]

Like how do you read mort's post asking HS to explain his weird 180 on kamelot and still vote kamelot?

[Naomi-Tan]

Like how do you read mort's post asking HS to explain his weird 180 on kamelot and still vote kamelot?

I don't get what your saying here.