Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

TLP would be an excellent choice for vig kill, imo.

And TS: K7 is going to get lynched today. But there's no rush.

[jackalbane]

By the way, just noticed that apparently I (or oEJo rather) already cast a vote. Just to clear that up. -

Unvote: Lloyd

. Personally, I don't have any suspicions against him yet.

[Battle Mage]

PBPA of oEJo:

Post 0: Attacks newbie for saying "I'm new, I'll probably be stupid". Nothing invalid here.

Post 1: Bunch of cult stuff, all reasonable. The kicker is

I believe Battle Mage mostly. Not due to meta or anything, I just do. He could be more of a threat though, later on in the game if he's alive.

Mildly odd, just believe him because.

Post 2 & 3: Starts lurker wagon on TNE under the logic he is not hunting scum, therefore he is not town.

Next several posts are all good logic about not true random voting, defending BM, etc.

Post 13: Votes Charity, an obviously pretty bad wagon IMO. Pretty clear its just a newbie mistake to me, not a scummy one.

Post 14: Hops to killa. Sure, w/e.

17: Hops to Imat after the killa wagon grows to fast.

19: Votes Lloyd for being dumb.

In retrospect, oEJo is not that scummy. His votes are logical, the main issue was his lurking which was solved via replacement.

This gives me significant town vibes. Scum are often reluctant to admit mistakes and openly backtrack.

@Farside-thanks for your prompt response. Maybe it is time we get a claim from TLP, if he is your number 1 vig candidate.

BM

[farside22]

TLP hasn't been replaced yet from what I can tell.

MOD: is there a replacement coming for TLP?

I'm afraid no-one has come forward to replace Tlp yet.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We are still looking for a replacement. Deadline is still in 3 days.

[Peers]

I get the odd feeling KS isn't getting lynched today and that someone's trying to distract us from it. Why aren't we trying to convince people to hammer him, again?

[killa seven]

if u let me live ill vig kill whoever the town wants me 2 kill

[dahill1]

I get the odd feeling KS isn't getting lynched today and that someone's trying to distract us from it. Why aren't we trying to convince people to hammer him, again?

oh no..he's

definitely

getting lynched today
but we don't want the hammer yet for more conversation

[armlx]

I get the odd feeling KS isn't getting lynched today and that someone's trying to distract us from it. Why aren't we trying to convince people to hammer him, again?

K. Peers scum keeps wanting us to shut up so he can kill us.

[Imat]

I agree, Peers has acted hasty. However, thats a null IMO. I'm sure you realize why, and I don't really feel like pointing it out on the extremely small chance that Scum don't get it. Also, I'm lazy like that...

And BM, I was under the assumption that Mafia was Scum and SK's were something else entirely. But I suppose anything Anti-Town could be Scum. Now I know firsthand what happens when I assume...

[armlx]

Scum typically is more commonly used to refer to Mafia. You are correct.

[killa seven]

if u let me live ill vig kill whoever the town wants me 2 kill

[Battle Mage]

Scum typically is more commonly used to refer to Mafia. You are correct.

Incorrect. Scum is the collective of all anti-town roles. Saying an SK is not scum is like saying an SK is protown. 0.o

[Battle Mage]

I get the odd feeling KS isn't getting lynched today and that someone's trying to distract us from it. Why aren't we trying to convince people to hammer him, again?

K. Peers scum keeps wanting us to shut up so he can kill us.

lol that was my thought when i read his post too.

[Battle Mage]

We are still looking for a replacement. Deadline is still in 3 days.

Request Deadline Postponement till a Replacement is found.

BM

[jackalbane]

Considering how killa's getting desperate and pretty much everyone's in agreement that he's SK, I'd have to agree that he's close to getting lynched.

How many votes does he need now for lynch to be achieved?

[Battle Mage]

Jack, please second my deadline postponement request. we dont want to lose another power role at this stage, and want a claim out of TLP before he gets vigged.

BM

[Toaster Strudel]

How many votes does he need now for lynch to be achieved?

One.

Now KS is buying time pretending he'll kill however the town wants him to kill. Right.

Unlike BM, I don't agree that we need to prolong today's discussion anymore. Time to go to night, and we'll have plenty to talk about tomorrow. Minus a few players that the scum will kill, so that we'll in fact be more efficient, having fewer players to examine, and if there are cross-kills, maybe it'll help finding scum etc. We have a chronic problem on the site with slow games, attrition, multiple replacements, and overly long days full of useless nonsense, thinking of another game where we had a 56 page Day 1 that consisted of cursing a troll/player who announced he hadn't read his PM. Let's be decisive, productive, and efficient.

[Toaster Strudel]

Jack, please second my deadline postponement request. we dont want to lose another power role at this stage, and want a claim out of TLP before he gets vigged.

Why is TLP on auto-vig? Let the vig not kill TLP. What's so complicated? Why get a claim from another player? What if he's the doctor? He doesn't need to claim unless he's run up a wagon. I'm not liking this directing the vig, and extracting claims for nothing.

[Battle Mage]

Jack, please second my deadline postponement request. we dont want to lose another power role at this stage, and want a claim out of TLP before he gets vigged.

Why is TLP on auto-vig? Let the vig not kill TLP. What's so complicated? Why get a claim from another player? What if he's the doctor? He doesn't need to claim unless he's run up a wagon. I'm not liking this directing the vig, and extracting claims for nothing.

Umm, the Vig wants to kill TLP, and personally i dont want another power role killed without a claim. In case you hadnt noticed, we have a Vig, and a half decent Vig is gonna kill someone. That being the case, we want them to claim before we go to night, kapish?

BM

[Battle Mage]

alternatively Farside, i think vigging TS might be a sound long-term strategy, regardless of her affiliation.


BM

[Toaster Strudel]

Umm, the Vig wants to kill TLP, and personally i dont want another power role killed without a claim. In case you hadnt noticed, we have a Vig, and a half decent Vig is gonna kill someone.

I've never seen anyone, EVER, pushing for someone to claim on penalty of being vigged. Especially someone in need of replacement.

We have a vig doing Night 0 kills, and outing roles? Geez...

[Battle Mage]

Umm, the Vig wants to kill TLP, and personally i dont want another power role killed without a claim. In case you hadnt noticed, we have a Vig, and a half decent Vig is gonna kill someone.

I've never seen anyone, EVER, pushing for someone to claim on penalty of being vigged. Especially someone in need of replacement.

We have a vig doing Night 0 kills, and outing roles? Geez...

Dont be a flippin idiot. We have a claimed vig who knows who he is gonna kill tonight. Why the feck wouldnt you want the target to claim!?

I dont approve of vigging someone who hasnt claimed. Apart from possibly TS, in which case it is a sound movement regardless of role.


BM

[farside22]

See the way I look at it I will probably be dead tonight. I mean typically the scum want to take out power roles. They know mine so I would like to go out shooting. I was actually hopping Lloyd would come back and answer questions directed to him at this point. Also if I think someone is scummie and they turn out to be a power role and I target them is that not bad for the town TS?
@Peers: Why are you in a hurry to end discussion? Did you not see I'm trying to make a wise choice for the town before the end of the day?

[Battle Mage]

Farside, please second the extension request.

Otherwise, if TLP isnt replaced before the deadline, you'll have to rush a claim out of either Lloyd or TS.

BM