Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[Ausuka]

asuka caking mumble stupid or whatever for voting implosion

This never happened. I asked him not to blank-votehop if he was town because at that point it was kinda impossible to read him.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not sure how useful VCA is right now. The implo wagon was really quick and the lack of resistance to it leads me to believe that scum were probably bussing implo. I don't see how my d1 voting makes me scum here.
That said my d1 reads were probably still disastarous and I'm just going to refresh them at this point.

There were multiple implo wagons so they early ones should divulge some info

[Luca Blight]

That's the hammer btw.

I'm just gonna adopt a mumble/Maria kind of playstyle for the rest of this game - that's about the level of effort this game deserves.

And I find it odd that he specifically said mariaR instead of Katherine. Maria and Katherine were both on his wagon.

I was talking about playstyle; nothing to do with their alignment.

[Ausuka]

Actually I need to reread maria and katherine. They weren't around during the buildup on implo so it would explain the lack of scum-resistance to implo if they were scum here.

[Luca Blight]

Of course, it's possible someone could have bussed, although less likely in this case given how tight the lynch was.

I will analyse when I get to a computer.

IF YOU'RE TOWN... There's absolutely no reason to bus there seeing how close a townie lynch was to getting through.

I think even apart from my claim, my interactions with implosion and the makeup of the two wagons certainly give me considerable towncred, even if not clearing me entirely.

[Havo]

Did that already myself. Here - viewtopic.php?p=8411375#p8411375

There have been full commuters, limited commuters, and even mafia commuters.

Thanks. That’s much easier than what I was doing.

[Cedrick]

asuka caking mumble stupid or whatever for voting implosion

This never happened. I asked him not to blank-votehop if he was town because at that point it was kinda impossible to read him.

Sorry. You just told him not to do it. My fault. Given the flip though it’s still suspicious to me.

[Luca Blight]

Not sure how useful VCA is right now. The implo wagon was really quick and the lack of resistance to it leads me to believe that scum were probably bussing implo. I don't see how my d1 voting makes me scum here.
That said my d1 reads were probably still disastarous and I'm just going to refresh them at this point.

I feel like you're only saying this because you were caught on the wrong wagon.

VCA is literally the most useful tool we have right now; it's what most of the information we have is based on.

And I feel there

was

resistance to the Implo wagon - in the form of

my

wagon.

[Cedrick]

Agree with Luca here. Somebody on the other wagon, probably 2 somebody’s are scum.

[Hopkirk]

Mumble is obv town here yeah. Treating the wagon on him as a wagon on town when looking at VCs.

Cursing is fine. Cursing instead of discussion is objectively bad.

So try and discuss something useful. You came in asking 2 terrible question.

VCa imo points to asuka probably being scum, at least deserving of some pressure.

You want to look at me/Luca when so others make more sense. Asuka/tchill for example.

That’s why I think you could be scum on the wagon. You didn’t do anything but vote park. You aren’t trying to analyze the useful stuff and instead want to look at non useful stuff.

Sure you are right me being off the wagon doesn’t clear me but it doesn’t mean I’m scum either. If you are town do better please and toughen up. This is a grown up game.

What part of asking a quick question means I'm focused on you/Luca? My top scumread right now is Tchill.
Why isn't it useful for me to form a read on you?

All I'm getting from your post is that you still don't feel like explining your thought process/reasoning. You said there was logic that made you town, then right afterwards you said there isn't anything you can say that shows/suggests you're town. That's a logical conflict, then you got very defensive over it and reluctant to explain yourself.

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Tchill

[Tchill13]

That's the hammer btw.

I'm just gonna adopt a mumble/Maria kind of playstyle for the rest of this game - that's about the level of effort this game deserves.

And I find it odd that he specifically said mariaR instead of Katherine. Maria and Katherine were both on his wagon.

I was talking about playstyle; nothing to do with their alignment.

Yeah and I found Katherine and mumbles to be more alike.

[Tchill13]

Of course, it's possible someone could have bussed, although less likely in this case given how tight the lynch was.

I will analyse when I get to a computer.

IF YOU'RE TOWN... There's absolutely no reason to bus there seeing how close a townie lynch was to getting through.

I think even apart from my claim, my interactions with implosion and the makeup of the two wagons certainly give me considerable towncred, even if not clearing me entirely.

People keep throwing around the cleared word. You're not cleared unless an investigative clears you. Yeah you're probably town. You're not cleared though. Nobody knows for sure until a flip.

[Luca Blight]

That's the hammer btw.

I'm just gonna adopt a mumble/Maria kind of playstyle for the rest of this game - that's about the level of effort this game deserves.

And I find it odd that he specifically said mariaR instead of Katherine. Maria and Katherine were both on his wagon.

I was talking about playstyle; nothing to do with their alignment.

Yeah and I found Katherine and mumbles to be more alike.

Katherine has barely posted, and I don't see what your point is in bringing this up.

[Tchill13]

Tchill is on my list also. I just feel asuka is scummier and looking at how they mentioned each other especially asuka caking mumble stupid or whatever for voting implosion, I like asuka for scum better.

After looking at your vca I believe your ausuka tchill scum reads are associations are they not?

Implosion and ausuka are the only wagons I weren't on. So let's say I or ausuka flip town. Does that automatically clear the other in your opinion?

Cedrick did you answer this?

[Ausuka]

Ausuka
brassherald
Mumble
katherine
Luca Blight
implosion
tring the people not in this list

I feel like if Maria is scum this means her partner isn't katherine. It's still possible MariaR and Tchill could be scum together but tbh if Tchill is scum he's just completely duped me. His tone feels really genuine this game.

[Tchill13]

I think it's odd you were reluctant to mention Katherine.

[Tchill13]

Ausuka
brassherald
Mumble
katherine
Luca Blight
implosion
tring the people not in this list

I feel like if Maria is scum this means her partner isn't katherine. It's still possible MariaR and Tchill could be scum together but tbh if Tchill is scum he's just completely duped me. His tone feels really genuine this game.

If you're not buddying and you're actually town then I'd like to have a chat with you on how to read tone post game.

[Luca Blight]

Ausuka
brassherald
Mumble
katherine
Luca Blight
implosion
tring the people not in this list

I feel like if Maria is scum this means her partner isn't katherine.

It's still possible MariaR and Tchill could be scum together but tbh if Tchill is scum he's just completely duped me. His tone feels really genuine this game.

You're basing that purely on that list?

[Hopkirk]

@Asuka: I can't see anything in your iso that makes you seem like an unlikely partner to both Tchill and Implosion. Thoughts?

[Luca Blight]

I think it's odd you were reluctant to mention Katherine.

Odd in an AI way?

Is it odd that the lowest poster in this game wasn't the one who jumped to the forefront of my mind when making that comment?

[Cedrick]

What part of asking a quick question means I'm focused on you/Luca?

Asking us to explain how we’re town implies scum reads and you want us to defend ourselves. Regardless of your alignment you should never ask stupid questions like that.

[Tchill13]

Tchill is on my list also. I just feel asuka is scummier and looking at how they mentioned each other especially asuka caking mumble stupid or whatever for voting implosion, I like asuka for scum better.

After looking at your vca I believe your ausuka tchill scum reads are associations are they not?

Implosion and ausuka are the only wagons I weren't on. So let's say I or ausuka flip town. Does that automatically clear the other in your opinion?

Cedrick did you answer this?

Need an answer eventually.

[Cedrick]

Tchill is on my list also. I just feel asuka is scummier and looking at how they mentioned each other especially asuka caking mumble stupid or whatever for voting implosion, I like asuka for scum better.

After looking at your vca I believe your ausuka tchill scum reads are associations are they not?

Implosion and ausuka are the only wagons I weren't on. So let's say I or ausuka flip town. Does that automatically clear the other in your opinion?

I can’t really answer that. I need an actual flip. I’ll need to see who was on and off the wagon, I’ll need to see who dies. Lots of things factor in to me reevaluating

[Tchill13]

I think it's odd you were reluctant to mention Katherine.

Odd in an AI way?

Is it odd that the lowest poster in this game wasn't the one who jumped to the forefront of my mind when making that comment?

If you consider you were Comparing a player to the 2nd lowest poster in the game and it wasn't Katherine. Yes it is odd.