Mini 790- Skywalker Mafia: Game Over

[Kise]

I didn't even cast a vote for Krer.... all I did was mention what I got. And now I see why Krer said zwet screwed up.

Zwet, if Krer & Zazie were swapped targets, then that means you told me Krer targeted himself.

Also, I AM a watcher... how else would I KNOW that Krer targeted Zaz in the 1st place?

[Sajin]

Do you have new results?

[Kise]

Nobody targeted KoC. BBS with

I have a strong feeling that since the scumteam is not Krer/Zazie, it must be the supposed chocolate townies. Cop needs to target the right ppl and narrow down who's innocent because SSK & ThAD are likely the only people/scum who will come off guilty.

Basically what I'm saying is that I hope the cop will be doing their job right the next night or 2 so that he can claim before being killed.

[Kise]

BBS with

A POST AFTER CATCHING UP.***

[Knight of Cydonia]

Why are SSK and ThAd the only people likely to come off guilty? And why must scum be chocolate townies? Their claim fits with mine as strawberry, and it was made BEFORE my claim which correlates some way... so why are chocolate townies scum? Not giving them a free pass here, just don't see the reasoning. Because there is none.

Everything Kise has said feels like flailing to me.

[Kise]

After thinking it over, zwet didn't screw up. I essentially watched Krer. The only person who essentially targeted him was his own self (keep in mind that I'm not tracker).

OK... Zazie says that she was notified someone tried to kill her N1. This mean she either lied in order to lead the lynch on Krer (her being scum), or that someone tried to kill Krer N1 and it redirected onto her.

My meta of Starbuck leads me to believe she's town here. KoC is still Jester. The 3 S-players are unconfirmed as far as abilities go, but I'm willing to trust Star & distrust the "chocolate townies".

There are 8 players remaining... a mislynch would = NK, which then = 6 players. In the event there are 3 scum, that means game over.

So, I highly suggest an unvote and some more discussion.

Did anyone bother to re-read D1 to observe the interaction between SSK & ThAd, or at least iso them?

[Sajin]

Sigh.... I had hoped for better

Vote: Kise

[Sironigous]

Kise, before night, any reason why you chose KoC to watch?

[Kise]

KoC, I'm saying that ThAd was lying about the miller claim. SSK didn't even know he was a miller at first. He later said something about his role being so familiar with ThAd's, therefore he must be a miller.

I just personally think it's a bastard game if zwet created two millers (guilty result for the cop), plus however many mafia there are (more guilty-frenzy for the cop).

Call it reaching, but think about the hypothetical set-up. First take into account that there was no mafia kill N1. This means mafia had to wait and 'activate' their nightkills; usually by targeting a specific player, based off of a game I played w/ this exact mechanic.

Now, think on who the mafia would have had to target to activate their nightkills. Zazie had a post restriction D1; bullseye on her back. SSK is supposedly a miller after ThAd mentions that there is another of his ilk; bullseye on his back.

Thanks to Krer, it's doubtful that mafia had to target Zazie to active the NK. With Kemp being a mafia-recruit, I think ThAd was searching for him through his D1 flavor-fishing. They flirted for the longest.. SSK is Kemp, if Zazie somehow isn't.

[Kise]

in any case, having read my role pm again, it does state that the other chocolate person will be town aligned.

And you're not?

What's the point of mods creating a mafia-aligned miller?

[Kise]

No point in trying to assess my reason, Sir. It's not going to save me from a lynch thanks to Sajin.... if only KoC really was Governor.





But he's not. So farewell.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I can only prevent my own lynch.

[Kise]

Hmm... Sajin, for the benefit of the town, what would have been a good enough answer in order for you not to vote for me? And what is it about my posts tonight that make you believe I am scum?

[Sajin]

I wanted to see who you would also blame as scum to try and get a clear for tomorrow.

Or an explanation of a gambit of some sort. But you tried to say your report was legit and you did not automatically vote zazier. That screamed scumpartner to me.

[Sajin]

I meant to say, the combination of your report being legit and you not voting zazier. I fail at editing.

[Kise]

You should have asked me why I didn't vote her then.

I essentially watched Krer. The only person who essentially targeted him was his own self

So, this means that if Zazie is townie, the mafia tried to kill Krer but it instead was directed to her. It's an odd twist of things, but Krer was a plausible NK-target since he roleclaimed on D1. There is nothing solid to plant her as scum. I'm thinking endgame comes after my death, but if there's 6 alive for D4, then there's no more than 2 mafia. Please lynch ThAd & SSK if there's 6 alive.

[Kise]

And massclaim FFS.

[Starbuck]

And Sajin's vote makes the lynch, right?

[ThAdmiral]

Sigh.... I had hoped for better

Vote: Kise

I think he did an ok job tbh. In any case I probably would have just stayed absent if I was in his situation so he should get some props for that.

in any case, having read my role pm again, it does state that the other chocolate person will be town aligned.

And you're not?

What's the point of mods creating a mafia-aligned miller?

I know! I totally said this earlier in the game as well.

[ZazieR]

Are you all forgetting this:

My power is redirection. Anyone who targets me is instead redirected to whomever I choose (ZazieR in this case). How in the hell does anyone watching ZazieR see me do anything?

Explain how this makes sense.

Then explain this.

Because it makes no sense why they would see Kise targetting you. It's basically like saying you were at Zazier's house but while you were watching Zazier Kise had a sign redirecting all actions to you. You couldn't notice that if you were at Zazier's house.

First of all, Kise claimed watcher. Kreriov was the Redirector.
Kise claims to have Kreriov redirecting actions used against him towards me. You now state that this doesn't make sense. So why no vote?

SSK

, why didn't you respond to this?

[ZazieR]

@ThAd - I'mma hold off on my vote until Kise responds, even though I really would like to see a Kise lynch before more time is wasted (blah I took so much of it during V/LA). Besides, even if I do vote, people not voting are...

Though you are voting now. Why did you change this stance?

Sironigous

, why no response to this?

[ZazieR]

Well I think Zazier is the obvious scum here, I think Kise is scum because of events yesterday but I want SSK's opinion about lynch all liars. We need discussion.

Add now also your last post where you state that you think SSK is likely scum with Kise. Yet, no vote. Why is that?

Sajin

, no comments about this?

[ZazieR]

Zwet, if Krer & Zazie were swapped targets, then that means you told me Krer targeted himself.

What do you mean with this?

[ZazieR]

Nobody targeted KoC.

Why did you target KoC when you are suspicious of him?

[ZazieR]

Nobody targeted KoC.

Why did you target KoC when you are suspicious of him?

Never mind. Seems you think he's a jester. Though I still would like to hear why KoC.