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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:36 am

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That's annoying.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:38 am

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In post 1188, Amy Dunne wrote:Well we obviously now know she wasn’t aligned with anyone, so can you elaborate on your Dwelee read? Thanks.
Dwlee believing the claims to be true means he TMI'd Meg town in a game I just don't know if it's A or B. Feels badman I really thought Meg was scum in at least 1 of the two.
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:38 am

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In post 1196, Radical Rat wrote:I can kinda get the Jester nonsense, but... As a TPR, why on Earth would you fakeclaim a DIFFERENT TPR???
She obviously was trying to give the impression her role was useless to throw off scum

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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:39 am

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In post 1167, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1156, Lady Chloe wrote:It is in our best interest to purge demons, not jesters.

And the alternative is less attractive, while a pure PR revealed is weaker, why eliminate on such a basis?

Anyone who believes the claim and votes MegAzumarill because of it vexes me.
Let me be perhaps a bit more clear.
I believe the Jester claim. I do not believe the Roleblocker claim, or at least don't believe the Town part of it. Nor do I believe it was a "joke"

So, I think Meg is scum in Game 1, and Jester in Game 2. By eliminating there, we eliminate scum in one game, and a 3P with very scary powers in another. It avoids limming a Townie in either game, which makes it seem like a rather appealing option.
If you seriously believed her jester claim, then you should have been opposed to her lim in game B. Now if you only said you thought she was 3P it would make more sense but why would anyone believing the jester claim think she was a good vote in B? This makes no sense.

However, if you thought she was 3P (but not jester) in game B, then that is actually why you should have not voting her in game B because why would you vote out someone that you think isn’t scum?
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:43 am

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In post 1171, Lady Chloe wrote:
In post 1167, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1156, Lady Chloe wrote:It is in our best interest to purge demons, not jesters.

And the alternative is less attractive, while a pure PR revealed is weaker, why eliminate on such a basis?

Anyone who believes the claim and votes MegAzumarill because of it vexes me.
Let me be perhaps a bit more clear.
I believe the Jester claim. I do not believe the Roleblocker claim, or at least don't believe the Town part of it. Nor do I believe it was a "joke"

So, I think Meg is scum in Game 1, and Jester in Game 2. By eliminating there, we eliminate scum in one game, and a 3P with very scary powers in another. It avoids limming a Townie in either game, which makes it seem like a rather appealing option.
I see. The way you frame it sounds tempting to vote with.
I can see the not limming a townie argument but 3P still isn’t scum unless SK and we should be trying to find mafia.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:44 am

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I didn't think Meg was 3P.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:45 am

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Dwlee did.
VOTE: Dwlee as a reminder for tomorrow.
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:52 am

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In post 1189, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1187, Amy Dunne wrote:Why did she fakeclaim? You should never ever do that.
You're gonna hate playing with me, Flavor Leaf, Elsa Jay, and a few others who make it a regular habit to fake claim just for funzies. :lo:

Ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you this isn't how I usually play as ANY alignment. But I'm sure getting there bit by bit. ;)
Well it depends. I think modifying a claim or something close to it is fine but enough people read it as fake, which it was. I’ve only seen that role in one game ever and there was a town simple rb and a scum simple rb in the same game.

Wrt to game B, fakeclaiming jester is never a good idea unless it’s an open or a semi open game where it’s known to at least possibly exist in the actual setup.

I’m not sure if claim B was even intended to be taken seriously because she had like a gazillion actions preceding the jester part of it.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:53 am

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In post 1191, Lady Chloe wrote:My Taly claim was not fake.
CC! lol
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:56 am

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In post 1192, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1188, Amy Dunne wrote:Well we obviously now know she wasn’t aligned with anyone, so can you elaborate on your Dwelee read? Thanks.
That's EXACTLY the kind of thing I wanted to avoid. Like, X suspected Y for saying/doing something. They may not know it, but Y actually does this more often when they are a TPR (NOT TALKING ABOUT DWLEE IN PARTICULAR). Explaining such things during the night may tip off the Scum on particular individuals being TPRs in a particular setup.

A prime example is what Meg did (the fake claim), I knew she was most likely a VT in game 2 because of that weird claim (she never does that as scum here). Wasn't quite sure about game 1 but gave it a 50-50 chance she could be a PR (although I didn't expect her to be an important one).
Unfortunately that wasn’t the case. I don’t know much about that wrt to Meg. In ELSM, there weren’t any prs in that.
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:03 pm

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In post 1196, Radical Rat wrote:I can kinda get the Jester nonsense, but... As a TPR, why on Earth would you fakeclaim a DIFFERENT TPR???
I don’t understand the logic for claiming simple roleblocker or jester as town.

With A, you wouldn’t want to go out of your way to put a target on your back if not absolutely necessary. With B? Just why?
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:12 pm

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In post 1155, Dwlee99 wrote:What is good
VOTE: Meg
This an option?
I don’t like this, it actually looks worse than a straight up naked vote. And what does the second part even mean?
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:16 pm

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In post 1156, Lady Chloe wrote:It is in our best interest to purge demons, not jesters.

And the alternative is less attractive, while a pure PR revealed is weaker, why eliminate on such a basis?

Anyone who believes the claim and votes MegAzumarill because of it vexes me.
That and the speed of the wagons should have probably raised flags as well.
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:28 pm

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I mean maybe I'm dense but that didn't seem like a joke to me except maybe the jester claim but it was a theme. And simple roleblocker isn't a "troll role" like some people were saying. Her play was extremely scummy
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:35 pm

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In post 1211, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1155, Dwlee99 wrote:What is good
VOTE: Meg
This an option?
I don’t like this, it actually looks worse than a straight up naked vote. And what does the second part even mean?
I was asking if it was an existing wagon
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:42 pm

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In post 1200, T3 wrote:That's annoying.
In post 1181, Dwlee99 wrote:Bruh why was meg so scummy
In post 1213, Dwlee99 wrote:I mean maybe I'm dense but that didn't seem like a joke to me except maybe the jester claim but it was a theme. And simple roleblocker isn't a "troll role" like some people were saying. Her play was extremely scummy
Case closed.
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:42 pm

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Minus T3 quote.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:43 pm

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What?
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:43 pm

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Are you accusing me of TMI on her being town AFTER she flipped rn
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:45 pm

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In post 1190, Amy Dunne wrote:So you’re saying me and T3 are unaligned then? Well I’m not aligned with anyone.
Are you the demon lord?
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:46 pm

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In post 1218, Dwlee99 wrote:Are you accusing me of TMI on her being town AFTER she flipped rn
Yes right now and all the way up until now.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:53 pm

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OR mastina staged all of this and is the demon lord. Well done mastina, well done.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:55 pm

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Oh
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The immense amount of manic bloodlust I feel reading this interaction sends chills down my spine~
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:55 pm

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In post 1219, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1190, Amy Dunne wrote:So you’re saying me and T3 are unaligned then? Well I’m not aligned with anyone.
Are you the demon lord?
I don’t even know who or wtf that is, do you? But even more perplexing how does that even relate to that post?
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:56 pm

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In post 1223, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 1219, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1190, Amy Dunne wrote:So you’re saying me and T3 are unaligned then? Well I’m not aligned with anyone.
Are you the demon lord?
I don’t even know who or wtf that is, do you? But even more perplexing how does that even relate to that post?
It was me being annoyingly literal about your claim that you aren't aligned with anyone. You're aligned with town or scum or you are the demon lord.
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