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[LicketyQuickety]

LQ, do you believe my claim or not?

IDK because IDK how it works.

[Eddie Cane]

only time I've played with Lowell was a micro, he was town and basically lurked a lot and played like this. I like his luv vote. I'm not gonna hard defend him but I think there's scummier scum to pursue

[Eddie Cane]

LQ, do you believe my claim or not?

IDK because IDK how it works.

he is vig. if he shoots town town dies. if he shoots scum scum and him die. bam, string theory.

[aronagrundy]

i've played a scum game with lowell where he played similarly to this as well

[Transcend]

only time I've played with Lowell was a micro, he was town and basically lurked a lot and played like this. I like his luv vote. I'm not gonna hard defend him but I think there's scummier scum to pursue

VOTE:

AVAGANTIMOS

Ftfm

*puppy dog eyes*

[Avagantimos]

Spoiler: 495

The only stuff I have a heavy opinion on right now revolves around the LUV wagon, and people's response to his claim.

Let me take a stab at this:

page 1: fire is town, ali tries too hard, trans prob scum
page 2: lickety is newbtown
page 3: creature prob scum, fire's 59 is bad
page 4: trans' 77 is bad, 79 is sick burn,
page 5: lil prob scum
page 6: aron town
page 7: meh
page 8: eddie prob town
page 9: ?
page 10: meh, ali town I guess
page 11: dont understand the ali/aron thing
page 12: meh
page 13: lil's 300 trying to look casual, is scum
page 14: ditto 341

VOTE: Lil

The cases are garbage. All the cases. But LuV is tonally off. He's trying to emoticon and joke his way into the realm of carefree town. It works for Ali, and maybe even for eddie and fire, but not this guy.

I think this read on LUV makes sense. When I read it, I wanted to vote for LUV.

I'm not bluffing. The wagon pissed me off and if town loses because of it, so be it. People need to stop acting like they can read me and stop pushing NAI reasons.

This post, and his claim, seemed like genuine frustrated town to me. It's the first thing he posted in the game that felt like it probably couldn't have come from scum. So while I townread LUV for this, I still townread Lowell for pushing it, because before this post, LUV looked like a good wagon.

Scum on your wagon is either Creature or Lowell. I'll sort those two later.

Lowell I could see being scum.

okay alisae let's play a game

VOTE: Lowell

VOTE: Lowell
Challenge Accepted.

VOTE: Alisae

ah but it is a giant trap that you've fallen into

OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

jokes

VOTE: Lowell

VOTE: lowell

alisae and transcend. lets make a pact to never vote each other. deal?

I don't like this entire interaction. I think there's an attempt here to turn the LUV wagon into a counterwagon on Lowell, and I think there's at least one scum among Transcend, Alisae, and gerryoat.

tldr, Lowell's town, LUV is town, the votes on Lowell are bad.
VOTE: Transcend

Spoiler: 625

it was

but i'm just plain omgusing you now

i don't see how my reads paralleling with yours is worthy of being unvoted and my reads not paralleling with yours worthy of being voted.

Alright, I'll lay it out better.

I think Lowell's vote on LUV was the only one with any substance, and when that wagon dissolved because of his claim, it was reversed on to the one person who made a substantial vote. You started it, Alisae joined you, and I thought it was scummy.

When you decide that Alisae is looking worse to you, that's great, and breaks up what I viewed as a pretty shitty little partnership. But apparently you still think Lowell is scum for....reasons?

Spoiler: 946

you forcing an excuse due to peregrinev's presence basically draws the line.

There's a couple votes on the Alisae wagon I don't like at the moment.

I was just saying that I didn't like the Peregrine vote yet.

It wasn't getting in the way, as I thought I made pretty clear, but whatevs, a misrep is a misrep.

So it's three major things:

I don't like the Lowell wagon that he started way back when. It's not great now, but it was terrible then.

He straight up misrepped me when I was uncomfortable hopping on the Alisae wagon due to HIS presence there.

Now he is looking for scum the Alisae wagon, conveniently excluding HIS participation in the Alisae wagon.

[Alisae]

Now he is looking for scum the Alisae wagon, conveniently excluding HIS participation in the Alisae wagon.

No Shit Sherlock.

[Alisae]

Of course anyone is going to exclude themselves off that.

[Eddie Cane]

hmm I was voting alisae and luv...

fos eddie

[Firebringer]

Fire vote Lowell. Or Lexa.

Or tell me who scum is.

Lowell is townie so:

VOTE: Lexa

AS YOU COMMAND MY LIEGE!

[LicketyQuickety]

LQ, do you believe my claim or not?

IDK because IDK how it works.

he is vig. if he shoots town town dies. if he shoots scum scum and him die. bam, string theory.

That is what has me questioning the claim. Alisae said if he targets

Scum

he dies. So it is the opposite faction where Alisae dies than what you are saying. If it was just Vig or X-shot Vig, I would have no problems believing the claim, but the way the claim was given is Sus. For one, Alisae didn't wait till they were at L-1 and didn't bother to check, second they said if they kill Mafia (or I presure SK??? How does that work???) then he dies. So I can actually see SK or Newb Mafia making this claim.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Lexa

[aronagrundy]

why are people voting lexa

[Alisae]

Actually.
LQ.
You just dropped my scumtell.

[Firebringer]

I feel like we should just all vote Lexa.

I WILL FOLLOW YOU FOREVER IN THIS GAME!

I am Sir Arthur! King of the Brittans!

My liege!
*bows*

Should we ride for Camelot?

[LicketyQuickety]

why are people voting lexa

Its a shitty push on a V/LA player who has zero content.

[LicketyQuickety]

Actually.
LQ.
You just dropped my scumtell.

OK... what is the tell?

[Transcend]

fos eddie

[Firebringer]

fos eddie

I often stare at eddie too, its pretty fun.

*looks at eddie*

[Transcend]

Someone respond to 1249 please

[Avagantimos]

Of course anyone is going to exclude themselves off that.

"Hey, I'm gonna go ahead and dictate how we have the conversation after Alisae's claim about who's scum on the wagon. Everyone talk about these six people, and only these six people. Nobody else is relevant to the conversation. kthx"

[Alisae]

VOTE: LQ
You are no longer town buddy.
There are two problems in that post you just made.
A. You're trying to push me as the SK or Newb!Scum. First off, my scumgame is decent mind you. Secondly, ONLY SCUM WANT TO PERSUE THIS AGENDA RIGHT NOW OF TRYING TO MAKE ME OUT TO BE THE SK OR SCUM
B. Even If I WAS the SK, the correct play here would be to buddy me and to let me kill atleast 1 scum before I die, not push me.
C. False Dichotomy. Why can't I be a real Weak Vigilante?

[Alisae]

I feel like we should just all vote Lexa.

I WILL FOLLOW YOU FOREVER IN THIS GAME!

I am Sir Arthur! King of the Brittans!

My liege!
*bows*

Should we ride for Camelot?

We shall!

[Eddie Cane]

LQ, do you believe my claim or not?

IDK because IDK how it works.

he is vig. if he shoots town town dies. if he shoots scum scum and him die. bam, string theory.

That is what has me questioning the claim. Alisae said if he targets

Scum

he dies. So it is the opposite faction where Alisae dies than what you are saying. If it was just Vig or X-shot Vig, I would have no problems believing the claim, but the way the claim was given is Sus. For one, Alisae didn't wait till they were at L-1 and didn't bother to check, second they said if they kill Mafia (or I presure SK??? How does that work???) then he dies. So I can actually see SK or Newb Mafia making this claim.

mafia would never make a vig claim there, it's unnecessary. sk might claim vig but not weak vig most likely. I guess alisae could be sk but almost definitely isn't mafia.

if he targets scum he does die, so does the scum. how does that contradict what I said ?_?

[Transcend]

Of course anyone is going to exclude themselves off that.

"Hey, I'm gonna go ahead and dictate how we have the conversation after Alisae's claim about who's scum on the wagon. Everyone talk about these six people, and only these six people. Nobody else is relevant to the conversation. kthx"

Misrep

Was just an icebreaker

Not a "we are lynching inside this wagon"