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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:54 am

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In post 1246, Xtoxm wrote:deb can do joan, or he could even do ofrhz as well and we could have FA scan him
Yeah I see this now. That seems like clearly the best option, although I am slightly biased from Joan already being confirmed FMPOV.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:01 am

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so thats 3 diff neighboriser claims? i find it to be unlikely these are all town
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:02 am

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In post 1249, Something_Smart wrote:Wait, can't DEB just target ofrhz? It will fail, and then he'll be a valid check, right? I think if your hood action fails the hood never gets created.
To be clear "lynching ss would make joan ic" has crossed my mind more than once today. I think having two people having confirmed joan is a good idea if you are town.

Also not sure what the point in having two people ascetic check ofrhz is vs. reflective friendly neighbor being double confirmed
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:03 am

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Bins who did you hood?
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:05 am

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In post 1251, Xtoxm wrote:so thats 3 diff neighboriser claims? i find it to be unlikely these are all town
Just me and DEB. Bins and Joan are just regular neighbors.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:06 am

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is mechanically dubious enough that I'm like... Hmm on ss rn

Ss why would you not want vork to out hood with an outed pt cop?
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:08 am

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Oh, I told Vork to claim hooded. I just didn't want to out that I was the neighborizer, if I didn't have to :P

I very much prefer to keep my cards close to my chest if at all possible. Especially in the case where Vork, Joan, and Bins all already knew my role and could vouch for it later if people were really doubtful.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:09 am

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Right but wouldn't you want fa to know you are already in a hood?
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:10 am

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What's mechanically dubious about it? We talked about PT copping DEB and as a result he claimed a role that it's impossible to get a good PT cop result on. If we could find a way to make that work, would it not be worth our while?

Pedit: if I was discussed as a possible check, then yeah, but I hadn't been and I didn't think I would be necessarily be.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:12 am

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Hmm

Mostly cause I think town you knows a fn double checked is way better than an ascetic check since one tells us an alignment and the other doesn't. I know fypov joan is already confirmed but even so... Meh
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:12 am

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Any information I neglect to share now I can always choose to share later, but I can't change my mind and take something back once it's been claimed. So I'm very much a "need-to-know basis" kind of player in that regard.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:13 am

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what's the result of your vork pt discussion?
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:14 am

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In post 1249, Something_Smart wrote:Wait, can't DEB just target ofrhz? It will fail, and then he'll be a valid check, right? I think if your hood action fails the hood never gets created.
Wait this actually makes sense what am I talking about
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:14 am

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In post 1259, Krazy wrote:Hmm

Mostly cause I think town you knows a fn double checked is way better than an ascetic check since one tells us an alignment and the other doesn't. I know fypov joan is already confirmed but even so... Meh
The point of sending DEB to ofrhz isn't to confirm ascetic. It's so FA can check DEB.

And statistically speaking, it's likely scum will kill me or Joan before LYLO, so the double friendly neighbor confirm really isn't worth that much. Especially from my point of view because I already know it's legit.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:15 am

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Deb targets ofrhz tonight, fa does deb tonight, deb does joan tomorrow night, ez
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:16 am

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Yeah I get it now I missed the point of what you were saying before somehow
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:18 am

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In post 1261, Krazy wrote:what's the result of your vork pt discussion?
He was V/LA for a while so not much. He seems to trust me a lot for reasons I don't really understand (to the best of my knowledge, he's just assuming I'm town because he's screwed anyway if I'm scum and can manipulate him in a hood), and he's also claimed to me.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:19 am

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In post 1264, Krazy wrote:Deb targets ofrhz tonight, fa does deb tonight, deb does joan tomorrow night, ez
DEB is only one-shot, unfortunately.

How scared are you actually of a me/Joan team?
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:21 am

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It has a lot more to do with me preferring to just not at all have to think about joan's alignment since solving is a lot easier with her just 100% ic'd rather than ic'd-once-ss-dies
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:33 am

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i don't understand the resistance here?
i have my poe down to like 4 people now
we can start chain lynching the slots that havent towned and/or dont have a mechanical reason to be town
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:41 am

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Resistance to what?

You can lynch vork if you want lol
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:43 am

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we have universal tr fa and one of her innos trying to wagon vork
everyone is refusing to join and trying to wagon elsewhere
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:47 am

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Eh even if vork is scum me having a correct read on creature and ss is probably more important to the win than his lynch lol

Chara/shiro is interesting, it's the closest to ai behavior from shiro we've seen yet so I don't know I want to discourage her from getting into the game even if vork does end up being today's lynch
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:06 am

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In post 1253, Krazy wrote:Bins who did you hood?
im not a neighborizer i just started the game w joan as a neighbour
is this where I tell you to swipe right

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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:08 am

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In post 1271, Xtoxm wrote:we have universal tr fa and one of her innos trying to wagon vork
everyone is refusing to join and trying to wagon elsewhere
in a game with traitors its an unfortunately weak inno

def dont hate vork wagon

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