Mini Normal 1908 - In The Web (Game Over)

[TwoFace]

Having similar reads (especially on a replace) is actually a pretty good way to read someone as town, I feel. If you are reading a game and thinking "this guy's saying all the things I'm thinking" and you are town, then I think there's a good chance the person you are reading is town. Not to say that scum can't replace in and pick a player to blindly sheep.

I honestly don't believe PP has read enough of this game to have any sort of reads list though. The fact he posted some shitty list doesn't look good especially when he is refusing to explain his scum read. To me it looks like he is sheeping other people's reads which is not protown

[Gamma Emerald]

Because that's what I said.....

Hm. But having similar reads is grounds for a townread?

How am I posting differently?

Last game was a newbie, and you had a lot more analysis in your posts than I am seeing here. And yes, similar reads lacking other information is a good start for a townread.

{Gamma}

post a case on gamma.

I don't do that.

Reading through my game with you where you were scum I think this might be a town post
UNVOTE:

[Hikari Link]

I don't do that.

you are going to have to if you want anyone to take you seriously

On this we can agree.

[TwoFace]

I did. I want to hear someone's reasoning why.

Like you can't ask this and then refuse to do the same when you are asked.

[Hikari Link]

Having similar reads (especially on a replace) is actually a pretty good way to read someone as town, I feel. If you are reading a game and thinking "this guy's saying all the things I'm thinking" and you are town, then I think there's a good chance the person you are reading is town. Not to say that scum can't replace in and pick a player to blindly sheep.

I honestly don't believe PP has read enough of this game to have any sort of reads list though. The fact he posted some shitty list doesn't look good especially when he is refusing to explain his scum read. To me it looks like he is sheeping other people's reads which is not protown

I mean, he's had three hours, I'd be shocked if he did much more than skimming. And it's entirely possible that he just sheeped Mort, since he asked for his reads before posting his garbage list. I just don't care. You wanna lynch him for that? Be my guest. I just want this Day to be over so we can stop faffing about in the dark and start playing some real Mafia.

I don't care about a Day 1 mislynch; it's almost inevitable for town to do so Day 1 and we can't lynch the guy who I think has the highest chance of being scum right now (fitz), so that makes it even more unlikely. We got a lot of discussion out of today (too much more and it'll be harder to reanalyze as we go forward), so I just want to end the day and get the game started.

[TwoFace]

If wheme isn't getting lynched I've moved pp up to my 2nd.

[WhemeStar]

jesus Wheme's ISO is a trainwreck

Wheme do you purposefully try to get lynched and base your strategy around that?

lol kinda

[PenguinPower]

I mean, I said that my reads were based on a scan through so, yeah...and I also gave my reasoning for gamma. His questioning doesn't feel genuine or productive. I cbf'd to make a quote-by-quote WoT case outside of MyLo/LyLo. If you want to lynch me for that...ok.

[Hikari Link]

If wheme isn't getting lynched I've moved pp up to my 2nd.

Considering where the votes (and public sentiment) lie now, it's pretty safe to say he won't be. Can you live with a Gamma lynch though? He seems more viable. Though PP is getting in some hot water and there's mediocre buzz around Ircher. Whatever it is, let's just get to it.

[TwoFace]

If wheme isn't getting lynched I've moved pp up to my 2nd.

Considering where the votes (and public sentiment) lie now, it's pretty safe to say he won't be. Can you live with a Gamma lynch though? He seems more viable. Though PP is getting in some hot water and there's mediocre buzz around Ircher. Whatever it is, let's just get to it.

No I can't

[Hikari Link]

If wheme isn't getting lynched I've moved pp up to my 2nd.

Considering where the votes (and public sentiment) lie now, it's pretty safe to say he won't be. Can you live with a Gamma lynch though? He seems more viable. Though PP is getting in some hot water and there's mediocre buzz around Ircher. Whatever it is, let's just get to it.

No I can't

Yeah, I was afraid you'd say that. PP then? I'll vote if you will.

[TwoFace]

I can't unvote caught scum.

[WhemeStar]

See twoface this is why I voted myself to help you out, not help myself

[TwoFace]

If somehow you are town you definitely helped me...

[WhemeStar]

See I am town, my selfvote was for my flip to help your reads out. But your too stubbborn to change them even after my flip

[TwoFace]

I'm stubborn?

You know in advance that I probably wouldn't change them
You know in advance what I expect from townies and do the opposite
I ask for some reasons for your scum reads and you refuse
AND you know I'll think you are confirmed scum for self voting

Yet you do all of this anyway and I'm the stubborn one?

If you are town, very clearly you are.

Almost everything your predecessor did including the BS replace out was scummy.
Every single thing you've done this game is scummy.

If you flip town how the fuck can I find scum on your wagon? How can your town flip help me with my reads?

Your town flip doesn't change my read on fitz.
It doesn't change my read on yoshi
It doesn't even change my read on PP.

So how can you getting yourself lynched help me if you are town?

It can't.

You know what can? Fucking scum hunting. Providing reasons (good or bad) on why you scum read people or even town read people.

That helps me.

[TwoFace]

I mean, I said that my reads were based on a scan through so, yeah...and I also gave my reasoning for gamma. His questioning doesn't feel genuine or productive. I cbf'd to make a quote-by-quote WoT case outside of MyLo/LyLo. If you want to lynch me for that...ok.

Nothing from you seems genuine. You asking for reasons why wheme was being run up wasn't genuine. Your mysterious town read on them doesn't seem genuine, that reads list is definitely not genuine and your refusal to explain why gamma is scum is just plain crap.

[PenguinPower]

K.

[MortFeld]

K.

Is this "TF your playstyle annoys me so I'm not going to respond to your posts" or "Your points are invalid for ___ reason" or what?

[PenguinPower]

Former.

[PenguinPower]

But, really, what would you want me to say to that? "Nuh-uh, I'm completely genuine, you just don't see it." That's how he feels....can't change that.

[TwoFace]

Why did you ask for people to explain their reasons for why they scum read wheme/transcend slot and

1. Didn't respond to the one person who did
2. Didn't really push the others who didn't respond to get them to
3. Basically moved on and didn't care anymore

[MortFeld]

But, really, what would you want me to say to that? "Nuh-uh, I'm completely genuine, you just don't see it." That's how he feels....can't change that.

But he's saying you don't seem genuine for a specific reason that you could refute

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm
Maybe PP and WhemePlay are scum together

[TwoFace]

I don't think Wheme is scum.

you have been in this game less than an hour and probably haven't read much. I don't think your opinion holds any weight atm, especially without some good reasons why

Here I basically ask you to explain your town read on wheme and you don't.