Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

[Music and Mail]

I want to lynch in {Spoogh, Gamma, PP} I think

[Music and Mail]

Condition for me being copped is a lynch in that pool.
Otherwise cop is going on Gamma.

Good deal gents see you later.

[Carcalilly]

fine then I’ll do spoog :/

[implosion]

I'm willing to go for spoogh.

[Carcalilly]

I’ll vote tomorrow if other people are okay with it

[skitter30]

hmm



UNVOTE:

still think carca is town; still think that wagon felt like one on lynchbait; still hate that you pushed it in the first place; still hate that you wanted to policy me over not being willing to mindlessly sheep you on her

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VOTE: Implosion

ok ok this never stopped being scum let's just lynch it and we can sort out other people later
i'm tryna like figure out the team around him and nothing really makes sense to me

i guess like lovebird can be scum with anyone but

no, this isn't a thing that we're doing; implosion's still town

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Actually fuck it nah

creativemod1 check Implo for me to confirm that he's scum

don't trust you guys to sheep me even with a confirmation that i'm town.

if you're serious about this i'm treating this as a scumclaim

atm my vote is more on you cuz i'm annoyed at you and less because i actively want to lynch you today since you're getting copped tonight

if your'e not going to get copped tonight i want to lynch you today because i like actually think you're scum

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Because Implosion is scum. I was literally drunk when I unvoted him and as soon as I looked at his ISO again I was like yeah this guy is lockscum.
Lovebird is a 'safe' lynch in the sense that it's going to unoffensively hit town and it's exactly what's going to be lynched
it's not worth the toil for me to fight this town, i'll let everyone get the bad decisions out of their system today and lead tomorrow.

and posts like these are why i think you could be scum with the lovebird slot

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idk what about carcalilly's reaction looks townish, the entire thing looks null, like i believe she thought she was hammered but that is still completely null

idk it doesn't feel like a scummy reaction

i don't know how to explain better

she just feels guileless and not survivalistic and like she was just ok with being lynched and she just like feels good tonally

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the state of the game makes more sense in a lot of ways if he's scum, and his trajectory of being this confident on this many people in the way and order that he has is probably more likely to come from scum, though there were some other things from him I thought were weakly town.

the fact that i townread literally everyone he majorly pushed today is like a major red flag. the fact that he keeps taking those reads back and going elsewhere is also a major red flag, as is retroactively stating his scumread wasn't actually as strong as he made it out to be when he first presented it; i feel like he's looking for lynches that people won't protest to too much

i kinda gave up with carca; i made it very clear i wasn't into it but i didn't really feel like putting in effort to derail it but it felt like he was strongarming through a lynch and i'm reasonably confident that she's going to flip town from wagonomics + gamestate reads; the carca wagon just doesn't feel like a wagon on scum

i don't townread like anything he's done; he doesn't feel honest or like trying to gamesolve at all; i feel like he's trying to make the gamestate advantageous to him (directing prs + taking back asking to be copped) while trying to push through lynches

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if you selfvote and get everyone to help me lynch you we'll put creativemod1 back on me, sure?

I just don't have the energy to bulldoze this through.

no this isn't a thing

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It's kind of shitty and I need skitter to dialogue with me. Or one of my other townreads.

hey i'm here for a bit

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postie has a very, very strong opinion that Spoogh is faking their newness which I agree with, I just did'nt necessarily think it made them scum until I ran out of other scumreads.

i very strongly agree with this for the record; i think he's trying to give the impression that he's younger than he actually is and/or that english is not his first language; some of the words he's 'mixing up' are really really weird

like he used 'train' instead of 'wagon' earlier (at least i think that's the context he was using it in) and that seems like a purposeful substitution really; like i'm trying to figure out where someone might be coming from that they mix those up naturally in this context; it feels like he's trying to fake sounding diffrent if that makes sense

[Music and Mail]

if you scumread me for systematically pushing people for rxns then you really don't know how to read me

[Gamma Emerald]

postie has a very, very strong opinion that Spoogh is faking their newness which I agree with, I just did'nt necessarily think it made them scum until I ran out of other scumreads.

I missed this due to responding to other things
Why?

[skitter30]

i hate your trajectory on literally like everyone

i don't think you've voted a single person i don't townread today

i am finding this rather problematic

[skitter30]

also trying to get the cop off of you is incredibly fucking scummy

[Carcalilly]

I’m going to write in my notes that it’s completely impossible for skittem&m to exist

[Music and Mail]

Like if I wanted 'lynches' I could have had them eons ago
The fact that people do things that scare me off wagoning them should indicate that I'm town or at least trying really hard to pretend to be town as opposed to scumreading me for getting cold feet about wagons

@Gamma
She just went to bed I'll have her actually post that in thread because it's something she was -enthusiastic- about.

also trying to get the cop off of you is incredibly fucking scummy

is it? you realize I've never agreed to being copped before in like, site history except 1 game where I was town and was saying it to try to make it not happen because I thought I'd definitely get checked if I didn't agree to it. Ask N_M how I feel about being copped in a general sense, he modded Be Yourself. I was enthusiastic about it when I thought I was close to having the game solved, now not so much.

In the next game we play in I'll be back to telling people to fuck off if they suggest people copping me and all will be right with the world.

[Music and Mail]

I’m going to write in my notes that it’s completely impossible for skittem&m to exist

you would have said this the same game that we actually were SvS too then.

[Carcalilly]

postie has a very, very strong opinion that Spoogh is faking their newness which I agree with, I just did'nt necessarily think it made them scum until I ran out of other scumreads.

I missed this due to responding to other things
Why?

And even if they’re not faking the newness their reasoning that barley exists is shallow at best

[Carcalilly]

I’m going to write in my notes that it’s completely impossible for skittem&m to exist

you would have said this the same game that we actually were SvS too then.

That is godteir scumplay that I cannot handle

[Music and Mail]

Particularly given the 'oh you wagoned my scumreads' and I ended up coming to the same conclusion that they were town that you did on... most of them
this is how I sort people when the answers aren't readily apparent, I wagon people and see what comes of it.

the fact that you can only see the scum possibilities and not the town possibilities is kind of depressing.

[skitter30]

VOTE: music and mail

real vote, not just an 'i'm annoyed with you' vote

[Music and Mail]

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: music and mail

real vote, not just an 'i'm annoyed with you' vote

No
I think their waffling is genuine

[skitter30]

I’m going to write in my notes that it’s completely impossible for skittem&m to exist

you would have said this the same game that we actually were SvS too then.

uh no that game we were hard-townreading each other

[Music and Mail]

It's about the calibre of distance play, not the specifics of it. Maybe Keychain/myself in Mod is Mafia is a more obvious comparison but I stand by the statement.
Skitter, how does our next game go once it's mod confirmed to you that I'm town here? How does your approach to me change?

[skitter30]

Particularly given the 'oh you wagoned my scumreads' and I ended up coming to the same conclusion that they were town that you did on... most of them
this is how I sort people when the answers aren't readily apparent, I wagon people and see what comes of it.

the fact that you can only see the scum possibilities and not the town possibilities is kind of depressing.

you literally haven't pushed *anyone* i don't townread

i feel like you're trying to strongarm lynches and i don't like it

[Carcalilly]

forget it enough talk time to do
VOTE: spoog
In return any available n1 cops you m&m

[skitter30]

It's about the calibre of distance play, not the specifics of it. Maybe Keychain/myself in Mod is Mafia is a more obvious comparison but I stand by the statement.
Skitter, how does our next game go once it's mod confirmed to you that I'm town here? How does your approach to me change?

uh idk i'll figure it out then

right now i don't townread you

you feel like incredibly different here from sneks too which isn't helping. like if i could at least see parallels between your play here and there i'd feel slightly better about you but i don't

[Music and Mail]

mislynche(s)?
why wouldn't I have, like, lynched someone by now?

In return any available n1 cops you m&m

No.
Creativemod1 cops me.
Any other available cops on Gamma plspls. Most informative flip of the game.

uh idk i'll figure it out then

right now i don't townread you

you feel like incredibly different here from sneks too which isn't helping. like if i could at least see parallels between your play here and there i'd feel slightly better about you but i don't

I am incredibly different because Sneks was an incredibly easy game and confident and in control RC feels different from trying desperately to get a solid footing RC.