Mini 1723: Town of Helen Day 4
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Vedith Survivor
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pistachi0n Mafia Scum
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Vedith Survivor
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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okay reasons I'm suspicious of Vedith:
-SilverWolf NK night 1 - SilverWolf was starting to hint at a Vedith scumread in her later posts. Vedith dismisses me pointing this out as he can "just push her as scum" if he were scum, but I think he'd rather just avoid the spotlight altogether.
-Aristophanes, another NK, was also indicating thoughts of scum!Vedith throughout his ISO.
-Vedith caught on very quickly to a possible scumslip by Titus talking about setup spec as to whether it was 10v3 or 10v2v1. I think as a 1 3P scum, he would be more prone to identify that kind of slip. He didn't push it explicitly for this reason, but re-reading his ISO it looks like he was aware that she knew the Alien faction was only 2 players.
-bomb claim doesn't make sense, in hindsight - so he's town that counterkills scum attacking him? How is that balanced? Would make sense if he killed anyone who targeted him, but he specifically clarified that it's only people who try to kill him. If I investigated him and got a clear, he'd be conftown throughout that can't be NK'd without the scum losing.
-AtE at the end here... if I "lose it for town" then I apologize, but I don't see the value in pre-emptively blaming me instead of coming up with a better case on pistachi0n."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Flubber can you confirm that pistachi0n is not lying about you being afraid of banks?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Flubbernugget Survivor
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pistachi0n Mafia Scum
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Vedith Survivor
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"How is that balanced" - GL in a bastard game.
I'm done, the points against me are so weakly done. Everyone has thought of me as scum but GL picks out 2 that we don't even know who they were killed by.
Bomb is a pretty comments role so to say it's odd it just stupid. This is actually my 3rd time as it.I claim scum \o/-
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Vedith Survivor
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Vedith Survivor
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Wait, really? I thought she had it right and you were trying to discredit"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Vedith Survivor
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Jingle For Whom the Bell Trolls
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Jingle For Whom the Bell Trolls
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Town of Helen Setup
Spoiler: Loud Alien Roleblocker (VR)
Spoiler: Alien Janitor (Cococaine)
Spoiler: Recruitable SK (ALIENS!)
Spoiler: Upon Recruitment
Spoiler: Conspiracy Theorist 1 (Rosicrucians)
Spoiler: Conspiracy Theorist 2 (CIA-Facebook)
Spoiler: Psychiatrist
Spoiler: Miller (Mafia)
Spoiler: 1 Doctor (Fan Death)
Spoiler: VT Werewolf
Spoiler: VT Demon
Spoiler: VT Bankers
Spoiler: VT Chem Trails
Spoiler: VT Reptoids
Well Played Town!
I'll fix up the last bit of flavor sometime tomorrow. If anyone has questions about the setup or results, let me know and I'll answer those as well.This is a Parachute.-
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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gg everyone! Thanks for modding Jingle, this was a ton of fun throughout and I love the flavors in the PMs."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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SilverWolf Jack of All Trades
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Yay!! gg town!!
That was a fun game even though I was whiny and bitchy I still had fun. It is just not fun to be tunneled by scum before I can even get my bearings in the game.
GL and Rob13-both of you, town MVP all the way. Seriously, you guys were obvtown and played really well
Thanks Jingle for modding and the great flavor-it was very creative.
Hope to play with you all again soon. I'll likely be taking a brief break from Mafia but I'll be back.Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.-
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Silver, your ISO was extremely helpful as the game went on. You were pushing Titus, PB(/ETL), and had suspicion on Vedith too - all spot on reads"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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I think ETL did a great job on replacing in too - after we lynched vonflare and she flipped scum, I kept kicking myself thinking how on earth did she talk me out of lynching that slot. The "I confirmed myself" trick is a good one, I'll have to remember that for future games"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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SilverWolf Jack of All Trades
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Yeah, I'm pretty happy with my reads this game. They were better than usual. And yes, ETL did a fantastic job because PB was the lynch and she was able to turn that around so yep she's scum MVP for sure IMO.Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.-
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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also Vedith, this is three completed games with you as scum and you voted me first in every single one! I know your scumtell now"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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EspeciallyTheLies Survivor
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Rob14 Jack of All Trades
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ETL was scum MVP. She went from about-to-be-lynched scum to so town that she drew a night kill from the serial killer. That's pretty nuts.
I'm really satisfied with my play in my first game back in a long time. I caught PB from the word go, and I rethought my Titus read to realize she wasn't behaving as town would in certain situations. That's kind of a big deal for me, since I've dealt with tunnel vision issues in the past - I sort someone early into the town or scum categories and refuse to rethink my reads because I don't want to be misled by scum. Hopefully this indicates some progress there!
Vedith, on the other hand, totally slipped by me. I'd like to hope I would have caught on to him eventually, but I didn't read closely enough from Day 2 onward to comment on his play. His play Day 1 was solid, and he got to MyLo as an SK - that's not bad at all!-
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Vedith Survivor
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In post 1345, GuiltyLion wrote:also Vedith, this is three completed games with you as scum and you voted me first in every single one! I know your scumtell now
I thought that I only had 2 scum games with you?
I normally vote you or FB every game to be honest. xDI claim scum \o/-
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Vedith Survivor
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