Why not have all options out on the table?In post 1348, Dunkerdoodles wrote:and why couldn't embargo help us?
you also know there's 2 resolutions to choose from right?
which im assuming are the gold/crab thing and the embargo
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Fine, but I just disagree with this. It's likely mafia has to use gold for something. And it's likely they will use it N1.In post 1349, brassherald wrote:
Tomorrow, if I am around, Gold ban will be suggested. I would rather save that one for night 2, when people would presumably have earned some gold and would be looking to spend it.In post 1345, Kokichi Oma wrote:
No, now you're just trying not to take blame if it's wrong. Can you tell me what the harm of advancing and having gold on the discussion is? Why wouldn't we want to advance and why wouldn't we want to have Gold as a discussion for banning?In post 1342, brassherald wrote:If you disagree with the choices Titus makes today, vote against her resolutions and convince everyone to put someone else in these positions tomorrow.
I'm not trying to avoid the blame, again, if people feel that I have been wrong, let them not vote me to host tomorrow. Hell, I'll say right now, I think Joey_ or Nero are good hosts. We're going to be held accountable just like any politician.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Fine:In post 1350, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Why not have all options out on the table?In post 1348, Dunkerdoodles wrote:and why couldn't embargo help us?
you also know there's 2 resolutions to choose from right?
which im assuming are the gold/crab thing and the embargo
Ban Gold, Ban Crabs, Ban Silk, Embargo City states permanently, Embargo a player, Peacekeeping, Protect natural wonders, protect world wonders, Fund the arts for everyone, fund science for one person.
Those are our choices.
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just to clarify something but may not mean anything at all...the gold that's being proposed to be banned is a luxury resource. It makes ppl happy in the game. It is NOT the same as gold that you use to buy shit with. Although, you DO get like +2 to gold (+3 with some building) for each gold resource.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Yeah, I know. But, I'm thinking more of the lines of the corruption that comes with Gold in the game.In post 1355, Nero Cain wrote:just to clarify something but may not mean anything at all...the gold that's being proposed to be banned is a luxury resource. It makes ppl happy in the game. It is NOT the same as gold that you use to buy shit with. Although, you DO get like +2 to gold (+3 with some building) for each gold resource.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Why are we not protecting our natural wonders? Am I really the only hippie here?!?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Have you ever played Civ? I don't really think that's a thing. Although, I don't think I've ever really sat down and read a mechanics thing.In post 1357, Kokichi Oma wrote:Yeah, I know. But, I'm thinking more of the lines of the corruption that comes with Gold in the game.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I don't know that I can use science advancement. Which is why I put fund the arts as my non-ban choice.
Again, my belief is that Banning gold would be more valuable day 2.
And Nero seems to have played Civ V lots more than me because I didn't remember that about gold in there. I have just been using the Civ VI model, which I believe replaced gold with... maybe silver?
P-edit protecting natural wonders is permanent, and if it is not pro-town, I would be concerned with putting a permanent thing in place so early.I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.-
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I've last played Civilization 5, so I figured it was the same. But, maybe not.
https://www.civfanatics.com/civ3/strate ... c-edition/How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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I'm guessing we don't have one yet?In post 1358, Nero Cain wrote:Why are we not protecting our natural wonders? Am I really the only hippie here?!?How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.-
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Civilization 3**In post 1361, Kokichi Oma wrote:I've last played Civilization 5, so I figured it was the same. But, maybe not.
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That's about Civ 3 not Civ V. :/In post 1361, Kokichi Oma wrote:I've last played Civilization 5, so I figured it was the same. But, maybe not.
https://www.civfanatics.com/civ3/strate ... c-edition/Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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pretty sure its not thought there are other Civ players here too that may know more than me.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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this was mostly a joke b/c IRL I'd consider myself a bit of an environmentalist.In post 1358, Nero Cain wrote:Why are we not protecting our natural wonders? Am I really the only hippie here?!?
Based on the list that you gave I'd pick peackeep and fund arts? Like, in the game I'm against the ban of luxuries and embargoing city states. Outguessing the mod is a bit dumb but if I took a stab I'd say that luxuries and wonders give the players bonuses but its prob for all players (both scum and town). Embargo a player I bet is a roleblock.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Then we'll know what it is and save ban gold for later.In post 1351, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Fine, but I just disagree with this. It's likely mafia has to use gold for something. And it's likely they will use it N1.In post 1349, brassherald wrote:
Tomorrow, if I am around, Gold ban will be suggested. I would rather save that one for night 2, when people would presumably have earned some gold and would be looking to spend it.In post 1345, Kokichi Oma wrote:
No, now you're just trying not to take blame if it's wrong. Can you tell me what the harm of advancing and having gold on the discussion is? Why wouldn't we want to advance and why wouldn't we want to have Gold as a discussion for banning?In post 1342, brassherald wrote:If you disagree with the choices Titus makes today, vote against her resolutions and convince everyone to put someone else in these positions tomorrow.
I'm not trying to avoid the blame, again, if people feel that I have been wrong, let them not vote me to host tomorrow. Hell, I'll say right now, I think Joey_ or Nero are good hosts. We're going to be held accountable just like any politician.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Not in civ5, i thought you were softing something about corruption honestlyIn post 1367, Kokichi Oma wrote:That's what I meant. So corruption isn't a thing at all in Civ 5?-
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